[Discussion] Will luffy get defeated in this arc

[Jaylord]

So guys theres so many thread or post that big mom will get defeated(not knowing her true potential). So i want to hear your thoughts. Luffy have a low chance of beating big mom. So what's up guys

 

[Bimbonium]

Nah, I don't think so, he won't be defeated. He'll run away with his tail in between his legs tho.

 

[MadaraReturns]

Bro if you want to know that if Luffy is gonna win of lose if running won't happen; Luffy isn't even defeating Cracker without water as Luffy's savior so how is he going to defeat Big Mom, even Katakuri is afraid of her. I could see them winning with Zoro because he can cut her probably

 

[Love Cook]

Depends of the terms of defeat. I think he will escape but has the moral victory.

If you can infiltrate a yonkou on her own turf. Steal her treasures and free a crew member and cause a panic that is picked up by the rest of the world you're still a winner.

But I don't think he will get physically beaten. But I fear Capone might be.

 

[Liquid Snake]

Some of these comments lmao zoro beating BM lmfao. But anyway luffy wont get beaten up if that happens all signs would point to death for most of the team with him. The only logical option is to run they dont have the players in place to fight some ppl will be sacrificed maybe or they need more of BMs crew to turn on her maybe the dude that was trying to steal the treasure would draw BMs anger then they can escape

 

[Jaylord]

Nah, I don't think so, he won't be defeated. He'll run away with his tail in between his legs tho.

Pretty much

 

[Jaylord]

Bro if you want to know that if Luffy is gonna win of lose if running won't happen; Luffy isn't even defeating Cracker without water as Luffy's savior so how is he going to defeat Big Mom, even Katakuri is afraid of her. I could see them winning with Zoro because he can cut her probably

Yah. Its like a warm up with zoro. Oda trying to say that it depends on the capable or power of the person to defeat that person(seems like nonsense to me). For example enel df cant affect luffy because made of rubber or ace cant affect akainu because of it being a magma which is hotter than him or ace can melt ice of aokiji and cant affect when he became frozen.

So its the capability of another person to another. Maybe cracker push luffy to use his gear 4th but enel who lose to luffy can beat cracker with ease(not with ease bro but enel is as faster as lightning)

 

[Jaylord]

Depends of the terms of defeat. I think he will escape but has the moral victory.

If you can infiltrate a yonkou on her own turf. Steal her treasures and free a crew member and cause a panic that is picked up by the rest of the world you're still a winner.

But I don't think he will get physically beaten. But I fear Capone might be.

Yah. If luffy and his crew escaped, its a huge lost to big mom pirates. Because it is like a little rat sneaked to the lion's den and got away. Big mom is a yonko and luffy is just a rookie(i should not say just tho) who sneaked into her territory and kick some asses there and got away

 

[Jaylord]

Bro if you want to know that if Luffy is gonna win of lose if running won't happen; Luffy isn't even defeating Cracker without water as Luffy's savior so how is he going to defeat Big Mom, even Katakuri is afraid of her. I could see them winning with Zoro because he can cut her probably

So its a shame for those who say that cracker can beat dofla, while dofla can cut his biscuuts

 

[Love Cook]

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[Ichigo88devil]

i think luffy won't lose or win it's gonna be a massacre many will lose from both sides and at last luffy and the rest of crew will run ... how ? (i think from pudding saving them) ... why massacre? (as dogtooth predicted).

 

[Shanks]

I think luffy will fight BM people can say anything they want mate . I would personally want it to happen !!

 

[MadaraReturns]

So its a shame for those who say that cracker can beat dofla, while dofla can cut his biscuuts

But bro Luffy immediately said that Cracker's Haki was the strongest he'd faced (right after clashing with Doffy('s strongest attacks)) so how would Doffy cut his biscuits?

 

[chopstickchakra]

But bro Luffy immediately said that Cracker's Haki was the strongest he'd faced (right after clashing with Doffy('s strongest attacks)) so how would Doffy cut his biscuits?

Not an absolute answer but maybe because Luffy's going at them with brute force and it's harder to break something than it is to cut it. Also Luffy broke a biscuit so just because it's the strongest he's seen(which that translation is in debate) doesn't mean it couldn't be broken by someone with comparable or greater strength.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Depends of the terms of defeat. I think he will escape but has the moral victory.

If you can infiltrate a yonkou on her own turf. Steal her treasures and free a crew member and cause a panic that is picked up by the rest of the world you're still a winner.

But I don't think he will get physically beaten. But I fear Capone might be.

I was gonna say Luffy will be forced to retreat, and that would count as defeat, but I agree with this instead.

 

[Jaylord]

But bro Luffy immediately said that Cracker's Haki was the strongest he'd faced (right after clashing with Doffy('s strongest attacks)) so how would Doffy cut his biscuits?

You also said that zoro can cut cracker

 

[Jaylord]

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Sorry sire. Im just a newbie here. Where can i find that?

 

[MadaraReturns]

Not an absolute answer but maybe because Luffy's going at them with brute force and it's harder to break something than it is to cut it. Also Luffy broke a biscuit so just because it's the strongest he's seen(which that translation is in debate) doesn't mean it couldn't be broken by someone with comparable or greater strength.

Cracker easily cut (half into) Luffy's arm, while Doffy's string attacks (like 'athlete' to the side) that also cut were bounced right back without effort

You also said that zoro can cut cracker

Cause Zoro can cut anything (like he said to Pica, he even cut Gold clad in haki, though that doesn't prove that he'd be able to cut someone worth 850m bounty, i think Zoro would be able to, that doesn't automatically mean he'd win

Doffy being able to win of Cracker cause Zoro can cut Cracker isn't realistic, Doffy's attack 'athlete' was effortlessly bounced back by Luffy's form only, while Cracker with the first hit cut (half into) Luffy's arm, Cracker doesn't just have a biscuit he has infinite Knights and his own haki is proven stronger by the statement i just did (also by Luffy's mouth)

 

[chopstickchakra]

Cracker easily cut (half into) Luffy's arm, while Doffy's string attacks (like 'athlete' to the side) that also cut were bounced right back without effort

Let's try to keep some context here. Cracker cut him once, all of his other cut/stabbing attacks were stopped from penetrating like Pretzel Roll and Doffy was able to cut Luffy too. And it wasn't half way into his arm, if it was Luffy would have a giant gash in his arm, he cut him yes but you're upping it.

 

[MadaraReturns]

Let's try to keep some context here. Cracker cut him once, all of his other cut/stabbing attacks were stopped from penetrating like Pretzel Roll and Doffy was able to cut Luffy too. And it wasn't half way into his arm, if it was Luffy would have a giant gash in his arm, he cut him yes but you're upping it.

I put it in between the '( )' for that reason, that it looked like it though i wasn't sure either, i'm saying it could've been. I didn't see that panel for a while, we'll see the details in the anime.

For the rest, ur right. I still think that there is a chance Doffy wouldn't cut Cracker (while using Haki, ofcourse). But ur right, now that u state it like that there is a good chance i'm wrong