Will America Pay For Bombing Nagasaki & Hiroshima?

[Devauzamaki]

Now that i think about it it was hella wrong to bomb them. I mean yeah US lost countless live's but the US had already won basically. Japan's naval blockade was stopped. US was dominating in the air.

They took the live's of lord know's how many innocent people.

All those civilians had to die for something they government started.

New borns...killed

children..killed

elders...killed

innocent adults...killed

US took the live's of 100's of thousands all because they wanted revenge.

And for what? they was already winning. What allies Japan had, had backed out.

Had that been us and it wouldve been proclaimed the most foul thing ever smh.

I cant believe they thought all those innocent people needed to die at the faults of they government.

Either america already paid their debt for it or it's yet to come.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Japan still dont want to surrender but Yes it was wrong to used Nuclear there.

I think USA already paid and supported Japan toward his new development after war

 

[Sonnelion]

Do you realize that they didn't want to surrender and continued to fight despite some of their allies pulling back? You aren't this stupid surely you read a book before making this thread.....

Furthermore this is what happens in wars don't be a little pus*y people died because of their government's decisions that happens all the time so just get over it already.
If you bomb a place that has more ,military power or nuclear bombs guess what happens, that's right you reap what you sow.

 

[Filosoofis]

No

America thinks it was a necessary thing to do and they won't see that it was actually a catastrophe

 

[LoZelda101]

I believe they did.

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[Devauzamaki]

Do you realize that they didn't want to surrender and continued to fight despite some of their allies pulling back? You aren't this stupid surely you read a book before making this thread.....

Furthermore this is what happens in wars don't be a little pus*y people died because of their government's decisions that happens all the time so just get over it already.
If you bomb a place that has more ,military power or nuclear bombs guess what happens, that's right you reap what you sow.

Yet if that happen to America guess what? it's the worse thing since satan and the killings wont be seen as justified.

 

[Uzumaki Menma]

The japanese committed numerous atrocities that both equal and surpass the Nazi's. The US offered them many times to give up and surrender yet they did not want to. Japan has themselves to blaim.

 

[Ricardo]

The war was basically over when Germany fell yet the Japanese chose not to surrender. Americans didn't want to risk thousands of lives upon a full invasion of Japan, so they decided to do what they did. It's war. It's easy to forget what a sin is in the middle of a battlefield.

 

[Umari Senju]

No

America thinks it was a necessary thing to do and they won't see that it was actually a catastrophe

Actually we don't think it was the right thing to do. But it was the first time an explosion of that magnitude was witnessed by people. We knew the damage would be great but when you hear the people who dropped the bomb on that day tell it. The ones that are still alive are haunted by it and the world's heart skipped a beat. That's why everyone is so reluctant to do it now.

Was it right? Is anything in war right?

Will America pay for it? Who knows...Karma's a ***** and it could happe. To us (the US) one day

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yet if that happen to America guess what? it's the worse thing since satan and the killings wont be seen as justified.

I'll take "What is every act of war" for 1 rep Alex.

 

[DominiqueX]

Are you incapable of reading? This is the wrong section.

 

[Tarkatower]

Of course not.

 

[Narushima]

The japanese committed numerous atrocities that both equal and surpass the Nazi's. The US offered them many times to give up and surrender yet they did not want to. Japan has themselves to blaim.

Nagasaki and Hiroshima are perhaps one of the best examples of karma in history:

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"In December of 1937, the Japanese Imperial Army marched into China's capital city of Nanking and proceeded to murder 300,000 out of 600,000 civilians and soldiers in the city. The six weeks of carnage would become known as the Rape of Nanking and represented the single worst atrocity during the World War II era in either the European or Pacific theaters of war...

After the destruction of the POWs, the soldiers turned their attention to the women of Nanking and an outright animalistic hunt ensued. Old women over the age of 70 as well as little girls under the age of 8 were dragged off to be sexually abused. More than 20,000 females (with some estimates as high as 80,000) were gang-raped by Japanese soldiers, then stabbed to death with bayonets or shot so they could never bear witness.

Pregnant women were not spared. In several instances, they were raped, then had their bellies slit open and the fetuses torn out. Sometimes, after storming into a house and encountering a whole family, the Japanese forced Chinese men to rape their own daughters, sons to rape their mothers, and brothers their sisters, while the rest of the family was made to watch...

The incredible carnage - citywide burnings, stabbings, drownings, strangulations, rapes, thefts, and massive property destruction - continued unabated for about six weeks, from mid-December 1937 through the beginning of February 1938. Young or old, male or female, anyone could be shot on a whim by any Japanese soldier for any reason. Corpses could be seen everywhere throughout the city. The streets of Nanking were said to literally have run red with blood."

 

[Narushima]

One of Dr Ron Paul's favourite political analysts, Michael Scheuer, on Obama's visit to Hiroshima:

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–Obama to Hiroshima: Barack Obama is a shining example of the kind of anti-American thinking that results from the Department of Education curricula, and the indoctrinated student’s application thereof in his professional life. Obama will go to Hiroshima and implicitly apologize for the United States having dropped an atomic bomb on the city in 1945.

Now, a basic and truthful education would have informed Obama that Hiroshima suffered a relatively small number of people killed – about 150,000 – in comparison to: (a) the 6-to-10 million Asian civilians killed by the Imperial Japanese Army in China, the Philippines, Indo-China, and all the other places that army invaded and occupied (1); all of the U.S., British, Indian, Filipino, Australian, New Zealand, and Dutch POW’s who were murdered, tortured, starved, or otherwise afforded inhuman treatment in prisoner-of-war camps, on the Bataan Death March, or when forced into slave labor; and all of men from the militaries of America and its allies who were murdered, wounded, or maimed when captured in battles fought to win the war Japan started. Given this accurate context, the only thing any U.S. president should say if he visits Hiroshima is:

“I come here today to speak in tribute to the men and women who died at the dastardly hands of Japan at Pearl Harbor and in the Philippines in December, 1941. And I can add that the only regret I have is that the United States did not have a 15 or 20 atomic bombs in 1942 so the U.S. Army Air Force could have lit up all the major cities in Japan’s home islands and thereby ended the inhuman and merciless war Japan’s emperor, generals, and admirals eagerly imposed on the United States and the world. As for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I can only say – Japan had it coming.”

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

I guess the Americans wanted revenge for pearl harbor and to test their new weapon and were hasty in making decision without properly thinking about the consequences to civilian life and the environment. Yes the Japanese were refusing to surrender and they had committed a lot of atrocities, but I think they'd have eventually surrendered against the might of the alliance and a significant amount of civilian casualty could've been avoided.
I believe for that reason that America should pay or compensate Japan and I think they've been doing so but to what extent they're willing to compensate or protect Japan is the question for me.
Anyways I'll always consider use of Nukes as always wrong no matter what unless my country comes under a nuclear attack and is forced to reply in kind. India anyways has a no first use policy, the only country to have such restraint. Something which I am proud of....

 

[Caliburn]

Now that i think about it it was hella wrong to bomb them. I mean yeah US lost countless live's but the US had already won basically. Japan's naval blockade was stopped. US was dominating in the air.

They took the live's of lord know's how many innocent people.

All those civilians had to die for something they government started.

New borns...killed

children..killed

elders...killed

innocent adults...killed

US took the live's of 100's of thousands all because they wanted revenge.

And for what? they was already winning. What allies Japan had, had backed out.

Had that been us and it wouldve been proclaimed the most foul thing ever smh.

I cant believe they thought all those innocent people needed to die at the faults of they government.

Either america already paid their debt for it or it's yet to come.

You know this is rather common knowledge, but don't talk about history if you don't know anything about it. I suggest that you read a few books about this topic as there have been enough studies instead of blurting around randomly ignorant stuff like you do.

The USA had to fight from island to island and were met with heavy resistance. In particular Okinawa was the scene of a major bloodbath. So they calculated what the cost would be if they attacked mainland Japan. The results were catastrophic. The Japanese had severely been indoctrinated, in fact much more than the nazi's. Surrendering was dishonorable for you and your entire family and that counted for everyone, not just the soldiers. Did you know that there were many mass suicides? As the Japanese repeated endlessly that being captured alive was worse than dying, so they jumped off cliffs, shot themselves etc. en mass. Did you know that those children and elders you are talking about were given weapons so that they could fight likewise? There are many reports of civilians who seemingly surrendered and then suddenly and old grandma pulls out a grenade and blows several American soldiers up. Did you know that Japan had an entire arsenal of unique suicide weapons? Not just their planes, but also submarines and even rockets. They made a special rocket with a cockpit that got launched from an airplane and then the pilot of the rocket had to steer into American ships. You can find the remnants of these weapons up to this day on the beaches of Japan as they were expecting and preparing for an American invasion. This indoctrination went even so far that there are stories of several Japanese soldiers who were stationed in remote regions of Asia and who stayed there for years because no one had given the order to pull back. The record was even a guy who remained on his spot for 3-4 decades or something. When he was discovered they had to find his old commander just so that the could give him the order to stand down and go home.

Now imagine having an entire country like that. How could the American government ever explain to their own people that they were spending billions of dollars and that tens of thousands, even hundreds of thousands of American soldiers were dying or being mutilated after the war was in fact over just because the Japanese obstinately refused to surrender? The fact that even after one atomic bomb they didn't surrender immediately says enough. However in the end that were just two cities. If the Americans had invaded, which was what the Japanese were expecting, then almost all the Japanese cities would have been in ruins. It's very well possible that an invasion would have caused much more casualties and much more materialistic damage and would have taken much more time than the two atomic bombs.

By all means within the context of the historical events when they occurred, the atomic bombs were perfectly justified and even rational. Also for the record Japan was quite quickly back on its feet after the war, among others thanks to the USA. There's a reason why Japan is so pro-American.

Also the Japanese really didn't behave all that civili during the war and they invaded nearly every part of South-East Asia. The USA didn't participate in this war purely to have revenge you know.


Seriously you clearly have absolutely no knowledge about this matter whatsoever, so where the hell do you get the nerve to start throwing stones at people who lived it and understood it much more than you ever will?

 

[kimb]

All's fair in love and war.

 

[Jonesy161]

Will America pay for nuking Japan? Why would we pay for that action? If anything, Japan got off lucky with just the two bombs. If they were still stubborn and refused to surrender after two bombs, what would have happened? A full scale invasion of Japan by America, possibly even more nukes dropped, more dead and hell, Japan may have been US territory after the war if they refused to surrender. Towards the end, Japan lost much of its military power when many of its allies pulled back, whereas America was now able to take all forces that were in Europe fighting Germany and direct them towards Japan, so America's forces were able to expand in great numbers. To top it all off, we had the world's first nuclear bombs, probably the only nation at the time with weaponized nuclear bombs ready to use. Many people will probably argue about how powerful America is currently, but during the end of WWII, with Germany in ruins, there was no question which country stood at the top as the world's most powerful nation. Japan was ferocious, but they were facing a massive monster. Surrendering was the best choice they made that war, otherwise the entire nation of Japan would have been lost.