will adult naruto be able to beat madara alone ?

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Naruto would be able to defeat JJ Madara. He has mastered his RSM and his KCM so Madara doesn't have anything against Bijuu RS.
 

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How dumb are u? Madara could use kamui because he had a sharigan eye his eye isn't like sasukes which allows him to use rinnegan and uchiha techs and sasuke also has one ems eye being the juubi jin restricts some*techs . And kaguya was trying to drain Naruto of his chakra which would kill him so she was going for the kill fool and how could she easily defeat Naruto he isn't stronger than her but she can't just beat him u downplay Naruto because ur fave can't beat madara or even stands a chance

are you serious? I was making a point with the kamui example, god your slow. Did you skip the whole explanation about the Rinnegan being the final evolution of the Sharingan? Because by your logic once one awakens the Rinnegan they lose their Sharingan abilities. Please stop mentioning Kaguya, she's not Madara nor Naruto. Planning to steal their chakra (which is the main goal) and going for bloodlust is totally different. Lol Kaguya could easily destroy Naruto stop spouting your fanfic. By the way my favourite is Sasuke and not Madara difference is I don't constantly wank my favourite character unlike you.

I'm mad because my fav can't beat Madara? I know my fav can't beat him, your point? Please try to make your sentences understandable because half the time I have no clue what your saying.
 
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double rennigan madara without senjutsu and any version of him above that stomps naruto. ESPECIALLY rusty grown up naruto
 

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cant believe I missed this thread.

ot- no not without RSM and all the bijuu charka and coaching
 

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are you serious? I was making a point with the kamui example, god your slow. Did you skip the whole explanation about the Rinnegan being the final evolution of the Sharingan? Because by your logic once one awakens the Rinnegan they lose their Sharingan abilities. Please stop mentioning Kaguya, she's not Madara nor Naruto. Planning to steal their chakra (which is the main goal) and going for bloodlust is totally different. Lol Kaguya could easily destroy Naruto stop spouting your fanfic. By the way my favourite is Sasuke and not Madara difference is I don't constantly wank my favourite character unlike you.

I'm mad because my fav can't beat Madara? I know my fav can't beat him, your point? Please try to make your sentences understandable because half the time I have no clue what your saying.

Being the juubi jin restricts some powers fool shit it even takes away some rinnegan techs hence why madara couldn't absorb chakra once he became the juubi jin ur fanfic is that madara can use all those moves as a jj even when it's not shown. And I bring up kaguya because Naruto held his own against kaguya for awhile she would stomp madara one on one . Hell Naruto could have beaten madara when he first came back to life if he fought like he did against kaguya one rasenshuriken almost killed madara with just sm what would 9 rasenshuriken do with full rsm we also know Naruto can create clones and have them collect senjutsu and with full kurama now his chakra is doubled which means even more power . Current Naruto is well capable of beating madara even sasuke possess the abilities to beat him save beating limbo clones but adult sasuke probably knows a way now.
 

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double rennigan madara without senjutsu and any version of him above that stomps naruto. ESPECIALLY rusty grown up naruto

Half kurama sm Naruto almost killed one eyed madara
Full kurama rsm Naruto stomps 2 eyed madara
 

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I don't believe madara could use susanoo in jj mode but even if he could do u think that would stop Naruto? No his stone fist easily break it no diff and I say this because it knocked kaguya into a mountain and she is far more powerful than madara and just like u said being the jj makes him stronger right so kaguya having all that inside of her plus the chakra of the whole world is more powerful than any form madara could reach . Also why use wood clones when limbo clones are better and even if he uses wood release Naruto stops that easily with his lvl now since sm Naruto could stop Edo madaras deep forest blossom and he was also a clone lol. Even if u say madara can use all those moves Naruto still counters and still has the senjutsu to damage madara one direct atk with multi rasenshuriken barrage madara is done

Nothing states or implies he can't, you only think he can't because he didn't use them; Obiti actually said why he can't use intangibility Kamui while Madara never said he couldn't use any of his jutsus. It was plot, Kishi out right said he didn't know how to beat Madara so he prevented Madara from negging Naruto and Sasuke. EMS Madara Susanoo tanked full Kurama's TBB, Naruto isn't breaking an even stronger Susanoo with stone fist; Kaguya's body is not as a durability chakra armor so no point in comparing the attack when Sakura punched Kaguya down in the path of Sasuke and Naruto when Sakura should have been out of chakra long before that. JJ Madara is closer to her power than anyone else besides JJ Hagoromo; Madara has jutsus, skills, and strategies to beat her if somehow they could ever fight.

Because Madara can make far more wood clones then he can limbos and since the wood clones can all use the same jutsus as Madara (except for TSBs as already shown with Naruto) so if Madara made 25 wood clones who all used Limbos then that's 125 Limbo clones. JJ Madara has more chakra than Naruto so can make more clones since it evenly splits your chakra between the clones. Madara clones should allow him to use share vision so Madara can see in all angles plus Madara is a sensory as well; if Naruto use the 9 Bijuu FRS then Madara can just ST them back at Naruto or have his TSBs destroy them. All of Madara's jutsus would be far stronger, you're comparing jutsus that Edo Madara used who is weaker than alive Madara who is weaker than JJ Madara plus that wasn't SM Naruto; Kurama had to give Naruto chakra to stop forest emergence. Madara can counter Naruto's move as well, Madara use of clones+share vision+sensory+ST+Susanoo+Pretha path makes Madara near unbeatable. I do think current Naruto can win but as I said before it would be extremely high diff since Madara would not be nerfed this time. Naruto may have more power but Madara has the right jutsus to counter against.
 

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firstly madara as edo used PS with rinnegan,madara as a juubi jin used kamui,just coz as a juubi jin he didn't use a certain tech does'nt mean jack,as there are other techs like wood dragon that he didnt use etc,naruto can clone kyuubi,why not madara since he has the chakra and limbos are said to have the originals ability,3 eyed madara was too strong that kishi lulled a bz on us,he himaelf accepted the fact that madara is overpowered as hell,with intent to kill madra kills naruto,madara is not like kaguya,who was'nt fighting to kill,madara knows almost every technique and how to counter it,madara's moukhtun tech will be perfect for fighting naruto as moukhtun is a great arsenal for fighting bijuus,imagine how big and overpowered his SS will be,in juubitos case,kishi needed to nerf him because there is simply no way obito was gonna be defeated with kamui,in the end,madara beats naruto,it wont be easy,but madara will
 
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Naruto roflstomps Madara neg diff.
Rusty Naruto>Current Sasuke
Give him a month and he'll be in top shape, taking away his rustiness thus making him even more op.
Besides he doesn't need to get his hands dirty, Hima "The Solo Goddess" would fodderize Madara. IT has no effect on her. :bdpf:
 

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It depends which Madara. Anything below Two Rinnegan Madara yes. Two Rinnegan Madara with Rinne Sharingan is in a league above anyone Naruto fought in the Future and will ever fight. Leaving Seals as the only method of actually "Defeating" Madara. This goes the same for Sasuke too.
 

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Being the juubi jin restricts some powers fool shit it even takes away some rinnegan techs hence why madara couldn't absorb chakra once he became the juubi jin ur fanfic is that madara can use all those moves as a jj even when it's not shown. And I bring up kaguya because Naruto held his own against kaguya for awhile she would stomp madara one on one . Hell Naruto could have beaten madara when he first came back to life if he fought like he did against kaguya one rasenshuriken almost killed madara with just sm what would 9 rasenshuriken do with full rsm we also know Naruto can create clones and have them collect senjutsu and with full kurama now his chakra is doubled which means even more power . Current Naruto is well capable of beating madara even sasuke possess the abilities to beat him save beating limbo clones but adult sasuke probably knows a way now.

Him not using doesn't mean he doesn't have that ability. You only think he can't use it for your fanfic to work, all the proof is in the DB. Again with your fanfic, nothing indicates that Naruto could defeat a Double Rinnegan with Third eye Madara simply because he didn't have a chance to fight with his full strength. He was stalling Kaguya until Sasuke returned, that's not Naruto fighting on par with Kaguya you "fool". You think Madara can't do the same? Even before he became a Rikudou he absorbed Hashirama's sage mode so he can do the same so that counter is moot. Unless you give me proof that Naruto can magically do a sun and moon CT to seal his immortal body or counter IT Naruto loses every time.
 

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Nothing states or implies he can't, you only think he can't because he didn't use them; Obiti actually said why he can't use intangibility Kamui while Madara never said he couldn't use any of his jutsus. It was plot, Kishi out right said he didn't know how to beat Madara so he prevented Madara from negging Naruto and Sasuke. EMS Madara Susanoo tanked full Kurama's TBB, Naruto isn't breaking an even stronger Susanoo with stone fist; Kaguya's body is not as a durability chakra armor so no point in comparing the attack when Sakura punched Kaguya down in the path of Sasuke and Naruto when Sakura should have been out of chakra long before that. JJ Madara is closer to her power than anyone else besides JJ Hagoromo; Madara has jutsus, skills, and strategies to beat her if somehow they could ever fight.

Because Madara can make far more wood clones then he can limbos and since the wood clones can all use the same jutsus as Madara (except for TSBs as already shown with Naruto) so if Madara made 25 wood clones who all used Limbos then that's 125 Limbo clones. JJ Madara has more chakra than Naruto so can make more clones since it evenly splits your chakra between the clones. Madara clones should allow him to use share vision so Madara can see in all angles plus Madara is a sensory as well; if Naruto use the 9 Bijuu FRS then Madara can just ST them back at Naruto or have his TSBs destroy them. All of Madara's jutsus would be far stronger, you're comparing jutsus that Edo Madara used who is weaker than alive Madara who is weaker than JJ Madara plus that wasn't SM Naruto; Kurama had to give Naruto chakra to stop forest emergence. Madara can counter Naruto's move as well, Madara use of clones+share vision+sensory+ST+Susanoo+Pretha path makes Madara near unbeatable. I do think current Naruto can win but as I said before it would be extremely high diff since Madara would not be nerfed this time. Naruto may have more power but Madara has the right jutsus to counter against.

This. He's talking about Madara with huge amounts of Rikudo chakra and the Juubi, Obito had the same type of chakra like Madara's except he had far less of that power and look at how much it boost Kakashi Susanoo and abilities.
 
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If you mean Rikudo Madara no naruto cannot beat him and current naruto would get slaughtered since he slacked off

Peoples don't read the manga

Madara one eye just got done with Gai and he was recovering when naruto shows up

later sasuke people then wank those two hardcore yet forget it's a 2v1

Madara comes Back with both eyes And holds them back

his clones stale mate naruto and sasuke while Madara spams those meteors and commences it after getting the third eye and who knows how much stronger he was and what he could have done

BZ wanted to "aquire" naruto and sasuke for kaguya but then Madara comes back and says he will finish them off he was going to actually kill those two and that was not apart of BZ plan which is when and why he back stabbed Madara
 
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If you mean Rikudo Madara no naruto cannot beat him and current naruto would get slaughtered since he slacked off

Peoples don't read the manga

Madara one eye just got done with Gai and he was recovering when naruto shows up

later sasuke people then wank those two hardcore yet forget it's a 2v1

Madara comes Back with both eyes And holds them back

his clones stale mate naruto and sasuke while Madara spams those meteors and commences it after getting the third eye and who knows how much stronger he was and what he could have done

BZ wanted to "aquire" naruto and sasuke for kaguya but then Madara comes back and says he will finish them off he was going to actually kill those two and that was not apart of BZ plan which is when and why he back stabbed Madara

He was pretty confident he could defeat Naruto and Sasuke as well but who knows, Madara is always a cocky bastard.
 

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either version soloes naruto,3 eyed jj madara,2 rinnegan jj madara,and 1 rinnegan 1 kamui madara(warps any long range attack,use PS,and SS,to pound naruto),though the last one will be extremely tough for madara,the only madara naruto has hope on defeating is 1 eyed jj madara,not to mention over the years naruto had no training in rikudou sage mode because he didnt need the bijuus power thats why he was just using kyuubi
 

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Him not using doesn't mean he doesn't have that ability. You only think he can't use it for your fanfic to work, all the proof is in the DB. Again with your fanfic, nothing indicates that Naruto could defeat a Double Rinnegan with Third eye Madara simply because he didn't have a chance to fight with his full strength. He was stalling Kaguya until Sasuke returned, that's not Naruto fighting on par with Kaguya you "fool". You think Madara can't do the same? Even before he became a Rikudou he absorbed Hashirama's sage mode so he can do the same so that counter is moot. Unless you give me proof that Naruto can magically do a sun and moon CT to seal his immortal body or counter IT Naruto loses every time.

Ok what indicates he could use those techs idiot ? U are saying he could for your fanfic to work I'm going by what kishi showed and I just gave u a way for Naruto to counter all those moves previous madara showed . And clearly Naruto wasn't fighting madara at full strength either so that point is invalid about madara not using full strength. And the point about Naruto stalling kaguya would work if Naruto was running from her Naruto was on the attack and countered her best chances at trying to kill him even bz said kill Naruto when he was isolated u fool. And madara was only able to absorb hashis senjutsu because he had his cells dummy and hashi isn't as fast or strong as Naruto and those tsbs won't pin Naruto down . And I clearly said IT is the only thing madara had on Naruto it's like I'm talking to a child man and madara was not immortal he almost died when gai and Naruto hit him Naruto could destroy the tree if he can cut the trunk with one rasenshuriken. If Naruto blitzed madara like he did kaguya he would kill madara if he could cut kaguyas arm he could cut madaras if he could punch kaguya into a mountain he will punch madara thru 4 if he damaged kaguya to the point she transformed he would destroy madara and hell he could pull the bijuu out of madara killing him like that
 

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Ok what indicates he could use those techs idiot ? U are saying he could for your fanfic to work I'm going by what kishi showed and I just gave u a way for Naruto to counter all those moves previous madara showed . And clearly Naruto wasn't fighting madara at full strength either so that point is invalid about madara not using full strength. And the point about Naruto stalling kaguya would work if Naruto was running from her Naruto was on the attack and countered her best chances at trying to kill him even bz said kill Naruto when he was isolated u fool. And madara was only able to absorb hashis senjutsu because he had his cells dummy and hashi isn't as fast or strong as Naruto and those tsbs won't pin Naruto down . And I clearly said IT is the only thing madara had on Naruto it's like I'm talking to a child man and madara was not immortal he almost died when gai and Naruto hit him Naruto could destroy the tree if he can cut the trunk with one rasenshuriken. If Naruto blitzed madara like he did kaguya he would kill madara if he could cut kaguyas arm he could cut madaras if he could punch kaguya into a mountain he will punch madara thru 4 if he damaged kaguya to the point she transformed he would destroy madara and hell he could pull the bijuu out of madara killing him like that

Again I'm not gonna even bother explaining about the Sharingan tech instead I want you to explain why he can't use sharingan tech and why he could use Kamui in the JJ form. We know Naruto full capablity (or most of it) we haven't seen a single thing from double Rinnegan and Rinne Sharingan Madara except multiple CT so no, it's not the same. Madara said he nearly died pre Shinju absorbed and again Kaguya is not Madara so stop comparing like Madara would react exactly the same way as Kaguya. Yeah if Naruto can pull out the Bijuu's that is and still he would need the strength to extract the Bijuu which he doesn't cause if he did he would of did so with Kaguya and don't give me the Obito example, Obito was emotionally unstable and getting talk no jutsu while the "whole Shinobi Alliance" had to assist with the extraction on top of a multiple Rasengan Bijuu PS. Madara has Limbo and Rinnegan tech to counter Bijuu rasen shuriken let alone PS.

If you don't agree then lets agree to disagree cause I'm tired of saying the same things over again.
 
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