Tazzilla88
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Many people are quick to throw away the comparison between Ay's speed and Tsunade's, they would rather say the comment meant nothing at all rather than being Kishi's way of talking about her speed. In fact, some have even went on to claim that reasonable feats of speed were the result of Kishi's carelessness in forgetting the distances he's proposed or just needing things to be aesthetically pleasing.
I, however, think that Kishi was self correcting part 1 Tsunade's speed. If we look, he has been doing that all manga. Surely, we all can see the difference between part 1 Tsunade and War Arc Tsunade, in the same manner that one can see the difference between Part 2 Kakashi and Gai.
So I well try to make this as rudimentary as possible as I tend to be verbose. Madara clearly compares her strength and speed to Ay's.
The reason for comparing strength is obvious, they both have super strength so in order for the readers to know who is stronger Kishi directly tells us, despite there already being hints of this. Kishi goes on to further highlight this difference in strength in the battle. So why compare speed? I think that because he was about to show Tsunade is high speed combat, he wanted readers to know that speed is still Ay's thing. His shtick if you will. However, that would also serve as a way of telling readers that she is not slow as she was worthy of being compared in this regard.
Perhaps I will show the way in which War Arc Tsunade has demonstrated speed.
We'll first start by showing that Tsunade cleared a fairly large distance quickly which prompted Madara's comment. This is how far away from Madara Tsunade started out,
the distance is presented on the page starting 577 and again on page 3 where she covers the distance.
For those who claim because Kishi's proportions are sometimes off and that we shouldn't place much weight on the distance, then the distance seen on page 3 of chapter 577 should be the best approximation of distance to go by as that is the one used while she is closing the distance. Considering how fast the distance was closed, it is a natural conclusion that Tsunade moves quickly, and it was that quick motion to which Madara was referencing. I also find it odd, that Tsunade is the only character I've heard the "Kishi messed up on the distance, she didn't really move that fast" argument, when discussing speed feats. What I also find as odd, is that people claim Tsunade has never been said to be fast. Which is interesting considering, even in part 1 we saw her in one battle, a battle in which she was out of shape, and power levels were decreased. (I don't see some one trying to argue from part 1 feats in regards to any character who has a battle in part 2)The very next battle we've seen her in, Madara comments on her speed. And before she challenged Pein, she, in a fatigued state, managed to beat the Anbu to Pein and surprising SM Naruto.
Notice the twitch in her eye, it means one of two things, either she noticed Pain was attacking, or that she realized she had reached her limit and could no more. The only thing which may remotely suggest average speed was the battle against Kabuto, who may I add is an evasion expert. And she still managed to surprise him a few times, as well as blitz her attendant, and catch Orochimaru off guard. But nothing has ever pointed to Tsunade being slow. Moving off of this tangent...
Now because this feat comes directly before Madara's comments on speed, we can gather that the two are related. Similarly the following feat happens only two pages after his comment on her speed.
In the scan that's about to be presented. Ay and Oonoki are coming toward Madara's susanoo for a blitz.
Which is what serves to the reason that we can believe Tsunade is fast. A more careful examination of the page shows that Tsunade is no where in sight.
In fact, the last time we see her she is at the location where she punched his susanoo.
Another feature I'm not sure everyone had noticed, but Madara, had not seen her coming at all. Which means during that brief moment after Ay hit his susanoo and he looked at Ay she followed up without him seeing her coming.
Now some may try to argue, that Ay in fact hit Madara to Tsunade, but this is not the case as we can see in the scan that was meant to be a closer examination of the page. But looking at the very next page we can see they all share close proximity.
Which means this speed feat for Tsunade is valid.
The next scan involves her on the offensive once again. She managed to get from up here
all the way to punching what seems to be a Mokuton Bunshin that is trying to get away.
Now notice her position relative to the other kage.
(This by the way is the distance at which she had traveled Not down to where Madara was but past that original position) At that point she was the person leading the offense and by Madara's admission he was forced to substitute himself with the Mokuton Bunshin.
Which would make it Tsunade pushing offense that made him resort to such measures.
Now notice the Distance Tsunade once again covers,
and this time notice how far Tsunade's attack managed to make it before Madara could counter attack.
All of this seems to indicate high speed movement. And its because of her high speed movement that her speed was compared to Ay's. To differentiate between them, while asserting they are both fast.
If you do not believe or if you reject the assertions made in this thread, then answer logically the question proposed in the title. Why was Tsunade's speed compared to Ay's?
I, however, think that Kishi was self correcting part 1 Tsunade's speed. If we look, he has been doing that all manga. Surely, we all can see the difference between part 1 Tsunade and War Arc Tsunade, in the same manner that one can see the difference between Part 2 Kakashi and Gai.
So I well try to make this as rudimentary as possible as I tend to be verbose. Madara clearly compares her strength and speed to Ay's.
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Perhaps I will show the way in which War Arc Tsunade has demonstrated speed.
We'll first start by showing that Tsunade cleared a fairly large distance quickly which prompted Madara's comment. This is how far away from Madara Tsunade started out,
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Now because this feat comes directly before Madara's comments on speed, we can gather that the two are related. Similarly the following feat happens only two pages after his comment on her speed.
In the scan that's about to be presented. Ay and Oonoki are coming toward Madara's susanoo for a blitz.
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The next scan involves her on the offensive once again. She managed to get from up here
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Now notice the Distance Tsunade once again covers,
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If you do not believe or if you reject the assertions made in this thread, then answer logically the question proposed in the title. Why was Tsunade's speed compared to Ay's?
