[Discussion] Why Wait Until Now?

[GoldenSage]

I'm wondering why Zetsu is rebelling now all of a sudden. He clearly seems to be against Madara, we see that as he attacks him. But I'm confused, why wait until IT is cast on the world to attack him? Does he have any ulterior motives? I ask that because I feel like he had plenty of chances to strike Madara, like when Obito switched sides, or when Madara was fighting the new and improved Naruto and Sasuke. Why does he wait until this moment? Is Zetsu possessed or simply rebelling? Will the attack succeed? what are his plans for the world? This chapter left me asking a lot of questions and I would love to hear everyone else's theories as why this happened.

Kishi is dicking with my head soo hard... Either he just writes up anything and somehow a story falls behind with it, or he is an extremely in depth writer.

 

[Flakez]

I think BZ inherited Kaguya's will when Madara abosrbed the Shinju.

 

[TheAncientJinchuuriki]

He probably waited for IT to start, then double cross Madara

 

[Ublorman]

I think Kishi is full of hor$eshit!

 

[ROHAN]

He probably waited for IT to start, then double cross Madara

^ This, because Madara was the only one to awaken the third eye to cast IT.

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

He just needed IT to be casted, then he (Kaguya) could take Madaras body and then eat the chakra fruit.

 

[ObitoGokuKakashi]

He waited for Mugen Tsukuyomi to start.

 

[KillerbYo]

He didnt need to kill Madara before, everything was going his way.
But he dont need him anymore.

 

[xxxLegacy]

He just needed IT to be casted, then he (Kaguya) could take Madaras body and then eat the chakra fruit.

lololol and how should Kaguya lose ? With 3 Rinnengans and Fruit ?

 

[GoldenSage]

Anyone got a theory more in depth? I'm liking what I'm reading but they're all assumptions I myself have made or thought. I want more to dig into, we're barely scratching the surface. Entertain my brain!

 

[Ublorman]

The ramen guy will be final villain and make giant noodles from deep forest emergance

 

[so12p]

Anyone got a theory more in depth? I'm liking what I'm reading but they're all assumptions I myself have made or thought. I want more to dig into, we're barely scratching the surface. Entertain my brain!

This is on of my questions, so I can't help you. There are far to many holes right now. Until Kish graces us with concrete information, it all just wild speculation.

 

[Ultimateone]

so you didn't pay attention that BZ said he is kaguya's will. also kaguya wanted the genjutsu to be cast so that the fruit could bloom again. so it made sense that BZ would wait until that time.

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

lololol and how should Kaguya lose ? With 3 Rinnengans and Fruit ?

Well she was obviously defeated before.

 

[Honord Sage]

It's not sudden when Madara took the Tree inside Him He signed His own death warrant.

 

[GoldenSage]

so you didn't pay attention that BZ said he is kaguya's will. also kaguya wanted the genjutsu to be cast so that the fruit could bloom again. so it made sense that BZ would wait until that time.

Of course I read that comment it was the first one, but my question is what the **** does Zetsu even wanna do? and is Kaguya now part of Zetsu? or Is it someone else? I continued my questions to find theories as to "why?" which has been discussed and which i had my own thoughts of that are similar to a lot of comments, I just have more theories like, maybe it's the Sage of Six Paths brother, Kaguya's other son who was barely spoken of, who now is part of Zetsu, did that even cross your mind? Maybe not, and maybe it's not even the case, but that's just an example of what is in the near future.

 

[Floydical]

I think BZ inherited Kaguya's will when Madara abosrbed the Shinju.

I don't think so because Black Zetsu implied that he has always been Kaguya's will. Remember that Madara didn't create Zetsu until he had the Mazo acting as a catalyst for the Hashi cells he cultivated. The sage stated that Madara was getting closer to both him and his mother. Its possible that when he unlocked the Rinnegan he, in a sense, unlocked part of Kaguya's will. If that were the case, when he made BZ, it might have adopted Kaguya's will rather than his.

I'm wondering why Zetsu is rebelling now all of a sudden. He clearly seems to be against Madara, we see that as he attacks him. But I'm confused, why wait until IT is cast on the world to attack him? Does he have any ulterior motives? I ask that because I feel like he had plenty of chances to strike Madara, like when Obito switched sides, or when Madara was fighting the new and improved Naruto and Sasuke. Why does he wait until this moment? Is Zetsu possessed or simply rebelling? Will the attack succeed? what are his plans for the world? This chapter left me asking a lot of questions and I would love to hear everyone else's theories as why this happened.

Kishi is dicking with my head soo hard... Either he just writes up anything and somehow a story falls behind with it, or he is an extremely in depth writer.

As for exact timing, it seemed Zetsu was waiting for the majority of the work to be done before betraying him. It seems he needed Madara to unlock the Sharrinnegan before betraying him. This meant that when Obito attacked him, he was forced to side with Madara. Madara needed the 2nd Rinnegan before he could unlock the Sharrinnegan. Now that Madara unlocked that eye, absorbed the tree and cast IT, it seems the time is perfect to resurrect Kaguya.

The only remaining questions is why he would wait all this time and not simply wait a little longer for Madara to kill Naruto and Sasuke before betraying him? Well maybe he knows Naruto and Sasuke have what it takes to beat him. Maybe he's overconfident and wants Kaguya to have a challenge once she's revived. If you ask me, its because he was offended by Madara's statements about being the savior and destroying his last obstacle. BZ might have just been fed up with Madara and took that opportunity to shut him up.

 

[Whiteknight]

I'm wondering why Zetsu is rebelling now all of a sudden. He clearly seems to be against Madara, we see that as he attacks him. But I'm confused, why wait until IT is cast on the world to attack him? Does he have any ulterior motives? I ask that because I feel like he had plenty of chances to strike Madara, like when Obito switched sides, or when Madara was fighting the new and improved Naruto and Sasuke. Why does he wait until this moment? Is Zetsu possessed or simply rebelling? Will the attack succeed? what are his plans for the world? This chapter left me asking a lot of questions and I would love to hear everyone else's theories as why this happened.

Kishi is dicking with my head soo hard... Either he just writes up anything and somehow a story falls behind with it, or he is an extremely in depth writer.

It's the first chance he got. Zetsu wants Madara to do all the dirty work, especially to obtain both Rinnegan. Madara gains both rinnegan and comes back from the other dimension. At that point, Zetsu needs Madara to fend off Naruto+Sasuke. With Naruto and Sasuke on the defensive, Kaguya can move.

 

[GoldenSage]

I don't think so because Black Zetsu implied that he has always been Kaguya's will. Remember that Madara didn't create Zetsu until he had the Mazo acting as a catalyst for the Hashi cells he cultivated. The sage stated that Madara was getting closer to both him and his mother. Its possible that when he unlocked the Rinnegan he, in a sense, unlocked part of Kaguya's will. If that were the case, when he made BZ, it might have adopted Kaguya's will rather than his.



As for exact timing, it seemed Zetsu was waiting for the majority of the work to be done before betraying him. It seems he needed Madara to unlock the Sharrinnegan before betraying him. This meant that when Obito attacked him, he was forced to side with Madara. Madara needed the 2nd Rinnegan before he could unlock the Sharrinnegan. Now that Madara unlocked that eye, absorbed the tree and cast IT, it seems the time is perfect to resurrect Kaguya.

The only remaining questions is why he would wait all this time and not simply wait a little longer for Madara to kill Naruto and Sasuke before betraying him? Well maybe he knows Naruto and Sasuke have what it takes to beat him. Maybe he's overconfident and wants Kaguya to have a challenge once she's revived. If you ask me, its because he was offended by Madara's statements about being the savior and destroying his last obstacle. BZ might have just been fed up with Madara and took that opportunity to shut him up.

that was def the best reply

 

[SkyGodHorus]

I'm wondering why Zetsu is rebelling now all of a sudden. He clearly seems to be against Madara, we see that as he attacks him. But I'm confused, why wait until IT is cast on the world to attack him? Does he have any ulterior motives? I ask that because I feel like he had plenty of chances to strike Madara, like when Obito switched sides, or when Madara was fighting the new and improved Naruto and Sasuke. Why does he wait until this moment? Is Zetsu possessed or simply rebelling? Will the attack succeed? what are his plans for the world? This chapter left me asking a lot of questions and I would love to hear everyone else's theories as why this happened.

Kishi is dicking with my head soo hard... Either he just writes up anything and somehow a story falls behind with it, or he is an extremely in depth writer.

I still think its all Orochimaru but people think I'm crazy lols.