Why uchiha need to be wiped out

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Ms is a forbidden knowledge I'm pretty sure theres only few people in the uchiha clan who knows that this could happen.

That's exactly why fugaku is dangerous (he knew this) imagine this if 3 tomoe sharingan users all of them started awakening their MS ability at the same time, day, forget about the third forget about the 20 elite ninja's that killed the 2nd. Imagine a another obito in a different lvl of space time ninjutsu, let's 20 different susano or more, etc etc etc, bruh imagine a ms user that has the powers just like shisui's eyes same lvl of power imagine that.

That's why the uchiha had to be wipe out because of that.
Their power is dangerous especially that time like if this power also came to the wrong hands it's dangerous.
 

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It because thinking about what MS tech for 100 Uchihas and drawing different looking susanoo for 100 Uchihas need high level imagination and Kishi doesn't have that.

So its not in-story but out of story reasons
 

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In story reasons? Yes they were wiped out because of the threat they posed, we know that as it is stated numerous times. Out of story reasons? The Uchiha wasn't even planned to part of the Naruto story originally and therefore wasn't really fleshed out a whole lot and therefore we needed a reason as to why there were so few of them.
 

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They were just too powerful even with a 3T Sharingan. The potential is near limitless which is why they were kept in the village. The more the get exposed to battle the stronger the clan becomes. Even in their weakened state they threatened the existence of the village(Tobirama's agenda) itself so it was done.
 
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They were just too powerful even with a 3T Sharingan. The potential is near limitless which is why they were kept in the village. The more the get exposed to battle the stronger the clan becomes. Even in their weakened state they threatened the existence of the village(Tobirama's agenda) itself so it was done.
This argument seems odd. The potential of the Sharingan isn't limitless, we know the limit. We also know that Madara and Izuna were the first in recorded history to awaken the Mangekyou Sharingan and that no one had done it since until Shisui. Hence it was a very rare occurrence even during great wars where the Uchiha fought. It was also rare to the point where there is no history of it during the War Era prior to Madara and Izuna. Because there is no history of it the vast majority of people such as the Kage didn't know of its ability after Tobirama died out.

Hence the fear of the Uchiha wasn't based on the existence of the Mangekyou Sharingan. Tobirama kept them in the village as a means to control them, because he feared that they couldn't be trusted in battle as they were so controlled by their emotion, not because he feared they might grow too strong. Even when he talks about Madara he didn't fear that someone would become as strong as him, he feared that someone would become as misguided as him.
 
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It's not like it was actually a secret among Uchiha. Sasuke's father offhandedly told him, and the stone tablet chilled where all the Uchiha met. It's just that it was so rare that only a handful of people could achieve it throughout a thousand years of endless warfare. It's pretty likely that none of those Uchiha would have awakened MS, and your argument is really just about wiping them out because they have potential. In that case, It's fair game to kill all the Senju who've rivaled them, then the Hyuga who'd become Konoha's most dominant clan, and so on. Instead of trying to right their wrong with talks, the village chose to kill an entire clan. Even if the Uchiha were to gain leadership, they were still allies that were extremely unlikely to do anything as fucked up as kill out an entire clan.
 

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They were just too powerful even with a 3T Sharingan. The potential is near limitless which is why they were kept in the village. The more the get exposed to battle the stronger the clan becomes. Even in their weakened state they threatened the existence of the village(Tobirama's agenda) itself so it was done.
This. They were one of the big 3 (Uchiha, Senju, Uzumaki)

The strongest clans seem to get wiped out for fear of their power. For the Uzumaki it was their powerful seals, the Uchiha, their doujutsu. The only reason the Senju didn’t wiped out was because of Hashirama/Madara’s idea to creat a village of multiple clans to end the fighting. And even then they faded out as well for whatever reason (the theory is they interbred themselves out of existence with other clans)

Uchiha just managed to hang in there the longest. Could have been avoided if Minato had hadn’t died prior. Although it was an alternate reality scenario, Minato managaed to negotiate a peaceful deal with the Uchiha and stopped (or at least stalled) the coup.

But there you have it.
 
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This argument seems odd. The potential of the Sharingan isn't limitless, we know the limit. We also know that Madara and Izuna were the first in recorded history to awaken the Mangekyou Sharingan and that no one had done it since until Shisui. Hence it was a very rare occurrence even during great wars where the Uchiha fought. It was also rare to the point where there is no history of it during the War Era prior to Madara and Izuna. Because there is no history of it the vast majority of people such as the Kage didn't know of its ability after Tobirama died out.
This is incorrect, Itachi said Madara was the first. However, that's not true since there were Indra incarnates before him. Also, Obito awoke it before Shisui and it is implied Fukgaku had it. It's power(Mangekyou Sharingan's) was also recorded on the stone tablet, which is why Sasuke knew it was necessary to control tailed beasts. And Tobirama knew a lot about the Mangekyou and it's powers, however that isn't the reason why the Sharingan's power is limitless. It's limitless even at 3 tomoe. An Uchiha can see with clarity so can move at and develop HSM beyond normal peaks with 0 ill effect. They can use the slow motion seeing and predictive movement ability to read movements and counter. They can see through, illusions and changes in a person's chakra. They can reflect genjutsu as well as cast them. Casting genjutsu and following up with killshots is a relatively easy win for them. Ans most importanty they can copy and learn any genjutsu, thaijutsu and nin jutsu(excluding KKG unless they have the genes for them + special condition jutsu). They could in theory have an unlimited arsenal and pass the accumulated knowledge on via genjutsu to the next generation. But, you know nerf.

Hence the fear of the Uchiha wasn't based on the existence of the Mangekyou Sharingan. Tobirama kept them in the village as a means to control them, because he feared that they couldn't be trusted in battle as they were so controlled by their emotion, not because he feared they might grow too strong. Even when he talks about Madara he didn't fear that someone would become as strong as him, he feared that someone would become as misguided as him.
That's some serious headcanon there, the fear was of the 3 tomoe sharingan, a power not even the senju can rival(unless an Uchiha is nerfed) according to Tobirama. Battle exposure grants them the ability to acquire an unparralled arsenal of jutsu and experience. And if the Sharingan is utilised properly(unnerfed) then an unrivalled standing. I think you don't understand Tobirama's words, he knew the Uchiha and none of them were misguided. Misguided people don't make peace, or want peace. Misguided people, don't establish a village. People(Madara) who are undermined by Tobirama, and see the bigger picture do what Madara did.
 
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In story reasons? Yes they were wiped out because of the threat they posed, we know that as it is stated numerous times. Out of story reasons? The Uchiha wasn't even planned to part of the Naruto story originally and therefore wasn't really fleshed out a whole lot and therefore we needed a reason as to why there were so few of them.
Lol the original story wasn't even about ninja. The Uchiha were one of the first things Kishimoto added once he decided to make a ninja series.
 

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What's the original story is about
”I’ve always wondered where you began to come up with the concept of ‘Naruto’ as a story and thought that that’s what yoou’d write about.”

Answer: Apparently he started out wanting to write a story about an old guy who owns a ramen shop and a young boy comes by, or something uninteresting like that. Other things also got mixed in with that like a story which was supposed to be really spectacular and it was about straightening up their lives and other emotive plots… He showed that to his publishers but they told him the story is way too far from what they want, and Kobayashi agrees that it doesn’t have any elements befitting a weekly Shounen Jump series. He started to research other shounen series (especially Akira Toriyama, who he was a big fan of). In the end the name ‘Naruto’ came from this failed story attempt, as well as the obvious influences that made it into the actual series. Then he made a story not about ninjas but about youkai (demons), where the main character was a fox who shape-shifted into a human. This story changed again so he made the fox demon into a human and redrew the whole thing, and submitted that version"


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"So why ninja in the first place? Kishimoto notes the inspiration of Sasuke, an anime series based on the manga created by Shirato Sanpei. But what really inspired him as a manga artist, he says, was Toriyama Akira’s Dragon Ball. In any case, he says, he had little desire at the beginning to create a story that fit some standard “ninja manga” mold."

 
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Lol the original story wasn't even about ninja. The Uchiha were one of the first things Kishimoto added once he decided to make a ninja series.
Well yes, but he only developed the Uchiha as a means to give Sasuke some character. Sasuke being a character that he didn't originally even plan on having in the story and the original plan for Itachi was to have him be the leader of a group akin to Root. The original design for Itachi was also given to Danzo and aged to make him a old man as opposed to a young adult.
 
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