why tobirama wins against most uchihas

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I'll be listing the major abilities of sasuke and how tobirama counters.

1. Genjutsu- any kind of genjutsu is made useless if you use it against someone with powerful chakra and good chakra control. of course genjutsu works by disrupting a person's chakra and making them see illusions. which tobirama possesses

2. amatarsu- this is a most used technique of sasuke's. but amatarsu can be countered. Do you remember when minato purposely got in front of naruto and sasuke's attack. he made contact with the technique but when he flew off. the flames didn't fly off with him. it's because the flames are not the FTG user's chakra so it can be avoided and tobirama is quite fast.

3. susano'o- this one is a bit tricky but it can be countered. remember when gaara used his sand under madara's feet to pull madara out of it. why not use water? Tobirama is capable of manipulating water without any seals. (when he restrained Hiruzen by manipulated water and then dragged him underwater) <hiruzen vs. orochimaru) and any attacks can be dodged tobirama is in fact on par with that of minato when it comes to speed.(minato even complimented tobirama)

4. taijutsu/kenjutsu- back before the villages were founded. People that couldn't mold chakra were fighting and were used far more. (why else did they wear armor) Taijutsu back then was on a different level. fighting against sharingans, MS, and possibly madara at one point.
 
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While Tobirama is looking through his swords reflection he is going to spot Itachi's EYE and get caught in TSUKUYOMI that way.

sharingan reads intentions extremely well and can pinpoint where the target will go and what the target will do
and beating the target to the punch numerous occasions (most of the time)
send amateratsu to where the target will go and tobirama runs right into it

susano'o lifts itachi into the air with its hands so he doesn't drown

Itachi fought while under genjutsu,. paralyzed, blind and deaf and still fought DSM kabuto with susano'o
 
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While Tobirama is looking through his swords reflection he is going to spot Itachi's EYE and get caught in TSUKUYOMI that way.

sharingan reads intentions extremely well and can pinpoint where the target will go and what the target will do
and beating the target to the punch numerous occasions (most of the time)
send amateratsu to where the target will go and tobirama runs right into it

susano'o lifts itachi into the air with its hands so he doesn't drown

Itachi fought while under genjutsu,. paralyzed, blind and deaf and still fought DSM kabuto with susano'o
gtfo. :|

Tobirama>Itachi
 
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While Tobirama is looking through his swords reflection he is going to spot Itachi's EYE and get caught in TSUKUYOMI that way.

sharingan reads intentions extremely well and can pinpoint where the target will go and what the target will do
and beating the target to the punch numerous occasions (most of the time)
send amateratsu to where the target will go and tobirama runs right into it

susano'o lifts itachi into the air with its hands so he doesn't drown

Itachi fought while under genjutsu,. paralyzed, blind and deaf and still fought DSM kabuto with susano'o
lol really foxy?
Who looks at their swords reflection ?
 

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While Tobirama is looking through his swords reflection he is going to spot Itachi's EYE and get caught in TSUKUYOMI that way.

sharingan reads intentions extremely well and can pinpoint where the target will go and what the target will do
and beating the target to the punch numerous occasions (most of the time)
send amateratsu to where the target will go and tobirama runs right into it

susano'o lifts itachi into the air with its hands so he doesn't drown

Itachi fought while under genjutsu,. paralyzed, blind and deaf and still fought DSM kabuto with susano'o
Too bad Izuna didn't have this information.
 

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While Tobirama is looking through his swords reflection he is going to spot Itachi's EYE and get caught in TSUKUYOMI that way.

sharingan reads intentions extremely well and can pinpoint where the target will go and what the target will do
and beating the target to the punch numerous occasions (most of the time)
send amateratsu to where the target will go and tobirama runs right into it

susano'o lifts itachi into the air with its hands so he doesn't drown

Itachi fought while under genjutsu,. paralyzed, blind and deaf and still fought DSM kabuto with susano'o
tell that to the other uchihas.... izanami works by deciding the destiny of someone. really I don't think tobirama would get stuck in it. if kabuto didn't pretend to be someone else he could get out of the loop. but tobirama isn't.... the water pulls itachi out of susanoo from under itachi's feet.
 

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gtfo. :|

Tobirama>Itachi
Tobirama could beat Itachi , but Itachi could beat Tobirama also.. U_U
lol really foxy?
Who looks at their swords reflection ?
Perseus when he went to fight Medusa ^_^ also Shinobi do that to scout the area from around a tree or corner..
Minato, Guy... others..

I meant Tobirama would try to avoid staring into a Sharingan by trying to see the reflection of the Uchiha in his blade and while he is looking in it he will see the sharingan's reflection and get caught in genjutsu. @/ _ \@
 

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Tobirama pwns most uchiha because he was stronger than izuna. izuna was the second most powerful uchiha according to hype because he was the second or first to unlock mangekyou sharingan. tobirama also beat him at a time when there was little to no intel on MS. Tobirama just pwns most uchihas cause he was built for that type shit


Most Uchiha's meaning irrelevant, featless ones? lol

honestly I cant see him beating any relevant Uchiha
Izuna rivaled madara and was one of the first to have MS. Tobirama beat him without MS intel as stated above. in my opinion he beats all uchiha except for obito, madara, and itachi. maybe shisui due to KA hype
 

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Too bad Izuna didn't have this information.
unfortunately he never got to train under Itachi T_T
tell that to the other uchihas.... izanami works by deciding the destiny of someone. really I don't think tobirama would get stuck in it. if kabuto didn't pretend to be someone else he could get out of the loop. but tobirama isn't.... the water pulls itachi out of susanoo from under itachi's feet.
I didn't bring up Izanami cuz Itachi doesn't need it. ^_^

also if Susano'o is low enough then water is not going to seep through. :itachi:

plus Susano'o comes from within the Uchiha's skin, as seen with Sasuke vs Danzo and Itachi vs Sasuke..

Also Itachi can force Susano'o to push the water off.
 

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Why does Tobirama defeat Uchihas? Many different ways.

Swag release, FTG, Infinite Exploding Talisman, Suiton: Suidhana ETC.

But my favorite is the one and only: Water Dragon Spam GG.
 

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Tobirama could beat Itachi , but Itachi could beat Tobirama also.. U_U


Perseus when he went to fight Medusa ^_^ also Shinobi do that to scout the area from around a tree or corner..
Minato, Guy... others..

I meant Tobirama would try to avoid staring into a Sharingan by trying to see the reflection of the Uchiha in his blade and while he is looking in it he will see the sharingan's reflection and get caught in genjutsu. @/ _ \@
The hokages managed to fight madara without looking into his eyes so a reflection isn't needed
Plus tobirama wouldn't look into his sword if he knew it'd be clear he can get caught that way
 

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this threaded is already been clearly stated in the manga. He constantly fought against the clan and presumably before the leaf was started he probably killed many uchia; Thus he probably knew and countered many of their techs. What this thread should be asking is who in the hell killed the 2nd?
 
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