Why Tobirama was the BEST Hokage

[Omnipotent]

How does Edo Tensei have anything to do with him as a Hokage? How do you even know he created the jutsu while he was Hokage? How could he have anticipated that others would use it for evil intentions? Do you think he wanted that to happen?

Oh.

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With the academy, Konoha's up-and-coming shinobi became much more powerful than they would have been without the academy, thus boosting Konoha's military prowess.

With the Chuunin Exams alone, he stopped many potential Great Shinobi World Wars.

With the oppression of the Uchiha, he prevented any other cases like Madara, which if he did not prevent it could have lead to a civil war within Konoha, after which other nations would take advantage, once again resulting in a Great Shinobi World War.

Under Hiruzen, the Uchiha Massacre occurred, crippling Konoha's military prowess.

Under Minato, the Kyuubi attack occurred, where many valuable lives were lost, once again crippling Konoha's military prowess.

Under Tsunade, the whole village was destroyed, and most of the population was deceased. What military prowess did they even have at that point?

So, the point is, over the years, Tobirama's creation of the academy, chuunin exams, and the Konoha military police force have prevented many potential Great Shinobi World Wars. Yes, the Uchiha did plan a coup, but that was AFTER they were suspected in the Nine Tails' attack on Konoha (with reason; who other than an Uchiha could have done it?) under Minato's leadership and the Uchiha Massacre did occur, but that was under Hiruzen's leadership; the village was not Tobirama's responsibility at that point, as he was already dead for many years, correct?

 

[Edo Odin]

Did anything as powerful as the Kyuubi or Pain attack Konoha under Tobirama's control ? Not that we know of. Tsunade and Minato both did extraordinary well in both incidents, with almost every ninja in the village surviving the attacks...

 

[Merita]

He also created the ANBU.

And... you said about Hiruzen, Minato and Tsunade, but where are the Hashirama points? :|

 

[Dantee]

Didn't you already post this thread and every hokage has their ups and downs. Tobiramas down being the fact he created a jutsu that has killed nearly over 100,000 shinobi, endangered the village he cared for(good thing Hiruzen was there) and possibly enslave the entire world under the matrix genjutsu.

 

[zinescience]

that could be true from ur facts.

 

[Powermill]

Indeed a very success kage.

 

[History]

no need to read tobirama garbage got killed by the gin & kin bros

 

[Omnipotent]

He also created the ANBU.

And... you said about Hiruzen, Minato and Tsunade, but where are the Hashirama points? :|

Thanks.

... Uh, Hashirama spread the tailed beasts? That wasn't a smart decision in my own opinion. Even though it balanced the power, Konoha's military prowess was likely crippled from that too (I'm guessing all the villages were equal at that point, but before Konoha was far ahead).

Didn't you already post this thread and every hokage has their ups and downs. Tobiramas down being the fact he created a jutsu that has killed nearly over 100,000 shinobi, endangered the village he cared for(good thing Hiruzen was there) and possibly enslave the entire world under the matrix genjutsu.

Nah, I didn't post this thread. Hey, I'm talking about what he did during his time as Hokage. The fact is we don't know whether or not he created Edo Tensei during his time as Hokage, and I'm not talking about what he did over his whole life, I'm talking about during his time as Hokage.

Did anything as powerful as the Kyuubi or Pain attack Konoha under Tobirama's control ? Not that we know of. Tsunade and Minato both did extraordinary well in both incidents, with almost every ninja in the village surviving the attacks...

During the Kyuubi attack, not only did the village lose hundreds of shinobi, but they also lost their Yondaime Hokage, who almost single-handedly turned the Third Shinobi World War in Konoha's favor. Military prowess = crippled.

A great deal died from Nagato's attack on Konoha. Jiraiya and Kakashi alone would have been a great loss, not to mention the hundreds of other unnamed shinobi/kunoichi.

 

[YellowFang]

He was in the Konoha perishing in peace by the efforts of Hashirama senju...

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

I agree 100% good thread bro tobi is the best

 

[Dreckerplayer]

He's the best even though he was killed by 2 cloud ninjas.

 

[bankaib4mv]

I cant say your wring cause you make good points but because of him the other kages had to pay for his mistake

 

[Kages]

He was a great Hokage, but in my opinion not the best.

 

[Insidious Smile]

Suposse Hashirama was the one that invented The resucitation jutsu. Tobirama May be an exeptional Water bender, I mean Water release user, but that's not enough to make him the best Hokage. Hashirama > Tobirama .

 

[Unbiased]

And because of Tobirama, thousands of ninja's died and are dying due to his creation of edo tensei.

 

[TheGeorge]

I agree with everything except the part of him oppressing the clan.

I think it was his intention to stop another member turning out like madara, but it kind of did the opposite, seeing as it made them think madara was correct.

 

[Omnipotent]

He's the best even though he was killed by 2 cloud ninjas.

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It took a whole unit to take him down, 20 of them. Whether Kinkaku and Ginkaku were a part of it, we don't know. You do remember they had six-tails worth of Kurama's chakra each, though, right?

Not to mention Tobirama could tell that even if they all fought, they would lose due to being outnumbered.

And because of Tobirama, thousands of ninja's died and are dying due to his creation of edo tensei.

Prove that Tobirama created Edo Tensei while he was Hokage

I agree with everything except the part of him oppressing the clan.

I think it was his intention to stop another member turning out like madara, but it kind of did the opposite, seeing as it made them think madara was correct.

Yes, a few select Uchiha did begin to notice that they were being oppressed, but at that point it was too late and thus no other case like Madara occurred. That was pretty successful, if you'd ask me

Suposse Hashirama was the one that invented The resucitation jutsu. Tobirama May be an exeptional Water bender, I mean Water release user, but that's not enough to make him the best Hokage. Hashirama > Tobirama .

Did you read the thread? Everyone knows Hashirama > Tobirama. That's not what I was saying. I didn't say he was the strongest Hokage. Best Hokage. Best.

 

[TheGeorge]

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It took a whole unit to take him down, 20 of them. Whether Kinkaku and Ginkaku were a part of it, we don't know. You do remember they had six-tails worth of Kurama's chakra each, though, right?

Not to mention Tobirama could tell that even if they all fought, they would lose due to being outnumbered.



Prove that Tobirama created Edo Tensei while he was Hokage



Yes, a few select Uchiha did begin to notice that they were being oppressed, but at that point it was too late and thus no other case like Madara occurred. That was pretty successful, if you'd ask me



Did you read the thread? Everyone knows Hashirama > Tobirama. That's not what I was saying. I didn't say he was the strongest Hokage. Best Hokage. Best.

Yeah, but didn't they eventually plan a coup. He might have stopped it while he was hokage, but still caused a problem for the future.

And how could he have been sure that there would even be another Madara. At that point in time no one in the clan agreed with what Madara was doing.

 

[Omnipotent]

Yeah, but didn't they eventually plan a coup. He might have stopped it while he was hokage, but still caused a problem for the future.

And how could he have been sure that there would even be another Madara. At that point in time no one in the clan agreed with what Madara was doing.

The coup contemplation and Uchiha Massacre occurred under Hiruzen's leadership, when the village wasn't Tobirama's responsibility anymore. And that was because the Kyuubi attack, in which Danzo, Homura and that old lady oppressed the Uchiha to a point that it was unreasonable, and the Uchiha were being discriminated against because they were widely believed to have been behind the attack. And the Kyuubi attack was under Minato's leadership, wasn't it?

They weren't sure, they were being cautious; they couldn't take any chances. How could Tobirama know that nobody else conspired with Madara?

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

Tobirama also created the Leaf' Military Police Force. :y

Suposse Hashirama was the one that invented The resucitation jutsu. Tobirama May be an exeptional Water bender, I mean Water release user, but that's not enough to make him the best Hokage. Hashirama > Tobirama .

Why suppose that Hashirama created the Impure World Reincarnation, when it is clearly stated that Tobirama did!