Why Tobirama never regretted????

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I do wonder why this line is so used: ''The Uchiha clan is very sensitive". And so what? The only time when the Uchiha planned a coup d'etat was when they were already pushed to the sidelines for something they didn't do. Why Itachi is so idolized for killing his own family? You all are missing one important thing: if you were in his place, most people would chose to protect family, regardless of ideals and etc.

I really want to see how the village helped Itachi protecting Sasuke. Actually They all turned to kill Sasuke off, when Itachi went away.

It's just like this patriot movie scene. They killed his son. Did you expect him to be loyal to the king? I don't think so.

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OH MY GOD!

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You said it was needless for Tobirama to apologize. What I found intriguing considering how much he made Madara's and a lot of people realities like hell. Including the Edo Tensei persons. It was all mostly because of him. You can't deny it.
Don't twist my words, I didn't say he didn't do no wrong, I said his choices in the end led for better over worse and that him apologising at this point would just be weird.
 

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Tobirama probably didn't understand his faults and didn't care to undo the divide between uchiha and senju. Tbb the clans should never have combined, was foolish to have people who have distinct hate, fear, resentment, etc.to mingle together. More so since they never really attempted to get along, if anything they just tolerated each other but eventually tolerating fades. Basically a powder keg. I'm sure some members of each clan were friendly with the other clan members and wanted peace but that seemed like a small minority, especially by the generation that wanted to overthrow the village.
 

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Don't twist my words, I didn't say he didn't do no wrong, I said his choices in the end led for better over worse and that him apologising at this point would just be weird.
Sorry if I twisted them.

But even so, you said: ""To some extent, he was right. Madara as a Hokage is a terrible idea. PUshing the Uchiha to the side, while not ideal, was still fairly effective.

'''Still, maybe he should've regretted, but I do feel like him doing so at this point would be a bit needless.""

You said that his dinamics were effective: How??? Destroying families lives? Creating people like Danzou and Kabuto?
And you insist in the idea that he didn't need to apologize? Madara was even more skeptical than him, and still said sorry without feeling pathetic, but facing his choices like a true leader.

And btw: Madara being Hokage would be awesome, because it would show off a new era: one of forgiveness and surpassing past hatred.Of course, until Tobirama appeared, this was the Madara we got:

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People choose to ignore the Uchiha's POV of things and side with the corrupt dictators, who believe that by suppressing or killing an entire group of people is the right thing to do, because they are so called "Bad people".

How can anyone agree to killing an entire group of people, including children and babies sleeping in their crib, as a greater good? Then they choose to blame the people who were massacred, because they got fed up with the discrimination and injustices?

It's retarded, man. I swear.

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People choose to ignore the Uchiha's POV of things and side with the corrupt dictators, who believe that by suppressing or killing an entire group of people is the right thing to do, because they are so called "Bad people".

How can anyone agree to killing an entire group of people, including children and babies sleeping in their crib, as a greater good? Then they choose to blame the people who were massacred, because they got fed up with the discrimination and injustices?

It's retarded, man. I swear.

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And the most annoying thing ever is that they choose to ignore how family oriented they were. In this panel Madara clearly shows how much he cared for them. And even after death he hesitated to kill Sasuke.

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And then, they want us to accept Sasuke caring for the system that made his childhood H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E.

And they all want to convince me that Sarada forgetting Uchiha clan is awesome and she is a """"heroine""""? I hope the Uchiha name will disappear so it won't be victim of new attacks and shame such as this one.
 
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Sorry if I twisted them.

But even so, you said: ""To some extent, he was right. Madara as a Hokage is a terrible idea. PUshing the Uchiha to the side, while not ideal, was still fairly effective.

'''Still, maybe he should've regretted, but I do feel like him doing so at this point would be a bit needless.""

You said that his dinamics were effective: How??? Destroying families lives? Creating people like Danzou and Kabuto?
And you insist in the idea that he didn't need to apologize? Madara was even more skeptical than him, and still said sorry without feeling pathetic, but facing his choices like a true leader.
Well, there is a chance that hadn't Tobirama given the Uchiha the role they had to occupy themselves with, the Uchiha would've rebelled sooner, since it did serve as a massive distraction for them from the problem at hand.

I, again, never said that he didn't need to apologise. I said it would be needless. In the context of the plot and the way it set itself up. If, right before Edo Tensei was dispelled, Tobirama was like, "BTW, I regret everything I did in life. Sayonara!" it would turn out weird and forced.

One thing I won't stand for though...

And btw: Madara being Hokage would be awesome, because it would show off a new era: one of forgiveness and surpassing past hatred.Of course, until Tobirama appeared, this was the Madara we got:
Madara would be an AWFUL Hokage and you know it.

People like to play him as the victim in these cases, but long before Tobirama did anything, Madara showed signs that he was as unfit for the job as it goes. Not only did he turn back on his friendship with Hashirama in favour of trying to DESTROY it, paralleling what he would later be doing with the leaf itself...

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But he actually went against his clan and attacked the enemy Senju in a fit of rage when his brother was killed. Can you really imagine a Hokage doing something like that?

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You can blame Tobirama, but there was a reason why people feared Madara and didn't want him as Hokage. He is a warmonger.
 

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And the most annoying thing ever is that they choose to ignore how family oriented they were. In this panel Madara clearly shows how much he cared for them. And even after death he hesitated to kill Sasuke.

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And then, they want us to accept Sasuke caring for the system that made his childhood H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E.

And they all want to convince me that Sarada forgetting Uchiha clan is awesome and she is a """"heroine""""? I hope the Uchiha name will disappear so it won't be victim of new attacks and shame such as this one.
If I was in that position, I would've just took my family, leave, and just build a secluded vision where I could raise my clan and invite others who are willing to come along with us.
 
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