Why tobirama is such a dissapointment

[Bob74h]

He never did anything, his first appearance had sarutobi body him and his brother

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When he was mentioned next, it was said that kingaku's force beat him
Bringing him to near death, he fought them twice and lost both times

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When he reappeared in the war arc, he did nothing but get bodied



got ripped in half by juubito and had his tandem bomb attack effortlessly tanked

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and had rods chucked into his head by madara

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He's just used as a hype tool for every character and at a certain point that kinda starts meaning nothing when you really have nothing to offer yourself, you can only lose so many times before it kinda just looks like your weak
Tobirama in his first appearance during the war was hyping up minato, literal hype machine for other characters

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What's sad about this about this too, the fandom acts like he can beat pein
Like how, he just got laid out in every encounter that we know of
Tobirama would just lose to pein like how he loses every fight that or he will say your so great pein, being the hype man for him ether or seems in character for him

 

[minamoto]

90,31% of teh sorotobi u r speaking is etotesei...he not in ful powerz ..

 

[StefanGuyver]

He is still the best water style user

 

[Bob74h]

He is still the best water style user

kisame actually defeated people on screen
So no, jobber rama is not best water style having no confirmed wins

 

[StefanGuyver]

kisame actually defeated people on screen
So no, jobber rama is not best water style having no confirmed wins

I still think that tobirama is better water style user and have more powerful jutsu

 

[Infant]

I still think that tobirama is better water style user and have more powerful jutsu

Why?

 

[StefanGuyver]

Why?

He was able to stop this fire style jutsu with water even as an EDO

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[Infant]

He was able to stop this fire style jutsu with water even as an EDO

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How does this elevate Tobirama above other water users?

 

[StefanGuyver]

How does this elevate Tobirama above other water users?

Its just my opinion + it was said that he can summon water so powerful even without water around and he is Senju

 

[Infant]

Its just my opinion + it was said that he can summon water so powerful even without water around and he is Senju

Heard.

My inquiry is on the grounds of such abilities scaling to other characters, such that what is world-breaking to one opponent may be meaningless against another. Feel free to express more.

 

[StefanGuyver]

Heard.

My inquiry is on the grounds of such abilities scaling to other characters, such that what is world-breaking to one opponent may be meaningless against another. Feel free to express more.

It was said that he can create water style so powerful even without any water around that makes him strongest water style user. Maybe I mentioned this in my previous post. I'll try to find manga page for this I'm on my phone now
-Edit- here it is

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[Bob74h]

It was said that he can create water style so powerful even without any water around that makes him strongest water style user. Maybe I mentioned this in my previous post. I'll try to find manga page for this I'm on my phone now

It was retconned
Everyone can use suiton techniques without a water source

The comment aged so badly genin can do these moves

Genin yahiko uses water style without water source

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boruto does the same thing

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Darui, a jonin doing the same thing

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Izumo did it, a rando jonin

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a literal unnamed character also did it

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Tobirama's hype of water without a source even got destroyed by retcons
Didt debunk anything and only showed tobirama as a bigger disappointment then i've already proved him as.

 

[StefanGuyver]

It was retconned
Everyone can use suiton techniques without a water source

The comment aged so badly genin can do these moves

Genin yahiko uses water style without water source

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boruto does the same thing

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Darui, a jonin doing the same thing

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Izumo did it, a rando jonin

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a literal unnamed character also did it

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Tobirama's hype of water without a source even got destroyed by retcons
Didt debunk anything and only showed tobirama as a bigger disappointment then i've already proved him as.

I think there is a reason why Orochimaru said as expected from a Hokage and i think Tobirama water style jutsu is strong not just an ordinary

 

[Infant]

I think there is a reason why Orochimaru said as expected from a Hokage and i think Tobirama water style jutsu is strong not just an ordinary

Yeah, he still has very powerful eneegy if nothing else.

Hpwever, his scale or utility is nothing above ordinary.

 

[StefanGuyver]

Yeah, he still has very powerful eneegy if nothing else.

Hpwever, his scale or utility is nothing above ordinary.

No i disagree.He is senju and that proves something

 

[Infant]

No i disagree.He is senju and that proves something

Yes, powerful energy leading to high potency.

 

[Bob74h]

No i disagree.He is senju and that proves something

Hashirama was the only noteworthy senju and senju's as a whole have no special powers

-Tobirama has nothing
-Tsunade has nothing

Hashirama was the only one with wood release ie a kekkei genkai or special power only he can use

Any uchiha can theoretically use a mangekyo sharrigan or rinnegan if conditions are met

Where only hashirama gets wood release unless you shoved his dna into you like danzo,yamato and zetsu

Every clan has some unique power
-hyuga can shut off chakra points
- raikage clan or whatever can use lightning armor
-Aburume clan can control bugs
-Osutsuki clan can asborb chakra
-the toads can naturally use senjustu


Every group has unique abilties is the point. Except the senju's tho

 

[StefanGuyver]

Hashirama was the only noteworthy senju and senju's as a whole have no special powers

-Tobirama has nothing
-Tsunade has nothing

Hashirama was the only one with wood release ie a kekkei genkai or special power only he can use

Any uchiha can theoretically use a mangekyo sharrigan or rinnegan if conditions are met

Where only hashirama gets wood release unless you shoved his dna into you like danzo,yamato and zetsu

Every clan has some unique power
-hyuga can shut off chakra points
- raikage clan or whatever can use lightning armor
-Aburume clan can control bugs
-Osutsuki clan can asborb chakra
-the toads can naturally use senjustu


Every group has unique abilties is the point. Except the senju's tho

Rinnengan ability is absorbing jutsu not otsutsuki.

 

[Bob74h]

Rinnengan ability is absorbing jutsu not otsutsuki.

And oststuki have rinnegans

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So it's a oststuki ability


And even jigen/isshiki can asborb chakra so it just seems to be a inherent ability for them

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[StefanGuyver]

And oststuki have rinnegans

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So it's a oststuki ability


And even jigen/isshiki can asborb chakra so it just seems to be a inherent ability for them

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Kinshiki didn't have rinnengan