[Discussion] Why There will be no more new Strawhats

[chopstickchakra]

BB has 10 commanders. That means someone joined them during the TS.

Have they mentioned the 10th or did they just say a number I can't remember? The wikia mentions Jesus, Laffite, Shiliew, Van Auger, Q, Sanjuan Wolf, Vasco, Catarina and Pizzalo. Kuzan would make 10. Who is the 10th you are referring to? Nevermind I found the page

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It says 10 giant captains but no new name has been given to BB Pirates other than Aokiji so until a character is introduced it's implied Aokiji is that 10th captain.
Tbh I'm not even sure what you were trying to point out, I said BB had 10 commanders not counting the horse. They are as far as we know Jesus, Laffite, Shiliew, Van Auger, Q, Sanjuan Wolf, Vasco, Catarina, Pizzalo and Aokiji until proven otherwise. Saying there's another new BB Pirate aside from Aokiji is nothign more than you projecting.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Have they mentioned the 10th or did they just say a number I can't remember? The wikia mentions Jesus, Laffite, Shiliew, Van Auger, Q, Sanjuan Wolf, Vasco, Catarina and Pizzalo. Kuzan would make 10. Who is the 10th you are referring to? Nevermind I found the page

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It says 10 giant captains but no new name has been given to BB Pirates other than Aokiji so until a character is introduced it's implied Aokiji is that 10th captain.
Tbh I'm not even sure what you were trying to point out, I said BB had 10 commanders not counting the horse. They are as far as we know Jesus, Laffite, Shiliew, Van Auger, Q, Sanjuan Wolf, Vasco, Catarina, Pizzalo and Aokiji until proven otherwise. Saying there's another new BB Pirate aside from Aokiji is nothign more than you projecting.

DD said he has only heard rumors about what Aokiji is currently doing. If he was one of the commanders, DD would have known.

 

[Tomato God]

1-Who the hell counts the horse??? Never heard anyone say that before....
2-Vivi isn't a SH.....she wasn't in no SH cover stories. Also, Vivi can't even stop Usopp. Usopp will always be the weakest according to Oda.
3 & 4- BB pirates directly parallel the SHs. You say it doesn't have to be 1v1 but at the same time it can.

Wtf are you talking about? We never said that the horse was one of the 10 commanders. You need to learn what technically means.

Jesus
Shillew
Laffette
Doc Q
Van Agur
Vasco Shot
Sanjuan wolf
Catrina
Alvao

That is nine people.

Only ten if you count the horse.

You *****'s have been quoting ten but never actually counted.

 

[Angelic.]

It gets old seein so and so might be nakama.there are a lot of characters that don't need the sh to be useful. Jinbies 10 that's it

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Jesus
Shillew
Laffette
Doc Q
Van Agur
Vasco Shot
Sanjuan wolf
Catrina
Alvao

That is nine people.

Only ten if you count the horse.

You *****'s have been quoting ten but never actually counted.

There are 10 commanders and BB, so there are 11 total. Someone joined BB during the TS and became the 10th commander. This shouldn't be that hard to understand.....

 

[Tomato God]

There are 10 commanders and BB, so there are 11 total. Someone joined BB during the TS and became the 10th commander. This shouldn't be that hard to understand.....

You mean you're counting Kuzan or are you referencing that scan which is probably counting Kuzan.
Until I am explicitly shown a new memeber I am just going to assume that there is nine + kuzan (who obviously isn't with BB for real). The same way you are assuming that there is another unnamed bb pirate running around.

Which there isn't.

There is 9 + Kuzan + Plus the horse. And he definantyly is less loyal than the horse and the horse doesn't know whats going on.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

You mean you're counting Kuzan or are you referencing that scan which is probably counting Kuzan.
Until I am explicitly shown a new memeber I am just going to assume that there is nine + kuzan (who obviously isn't with BB for real). The same way you are assuming that there is another unnamed bb pirate running around.

Which there isn't.

There is 9 + Kuzan + Plus the horse. And he definantyly is less loyal than the horse and the horse doesn't know whats going on.

Kuzan isn't the 10th commander. If he was, Smoker wouldn't have needed to ask Kuzan what he's been doing. Here's a list of the BB Pirates:

Captain- Blackbeard

Division commanders- Shiryuu, Lafitte, Burgess, Auger, Doc Q(with Stronger), Avalo Pizarro, San Juan Wolf, Vasco Shot, Caterina Devon, and the 10th commander.

Ally- Kuzan

 

[Tomato God]

Kuzan isn't the 10th commander. If he was, Smoker wouldn't have needed to ask Kuzan what he's been doing. Here's a list of the BB Pirates:

Captain- Blackbeard

Division commanders- Shiryuu, Lafitte, Burgess, Auger, Doc Q(with Stronger), Avalo Pizarro, San Juan Wolf, Vasco Shot, Caterina Devon, and the 10th commander.

Ally- Kuzan

You got that from the wiki. I know because I too can use google.

Kuzan being an ally that was counted makes more sense than not counting him and then introducing a new character.

They have a total of nine not including BB

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

You got that from the wiki. I know because I too can use google.

Kuzan being an ally that was counted makes more sense than not counting him and then introducing a new character.

They have a total of nine not including BB

Gatz wasn't counting Kuzan, unless you think Gatz knows more about the BB Pirates than Smoker.

 

[Tomato God]

Gatz wasn't counting Kuzan, unless you think Gatz knows more about the BB Pirates than Smoker.

Clearly, everyone knew kuzan joined. Smoker just had his doubts if he had really joined the darkside of the force to which Kuzan replied he didn't change.

So again 9 + Kuzan + Horse.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Gatz wasn't counting Kuzan, unless you think Gatz knows more about the BB Pirates than Smoker.

To be fair Tomato is on the right side of reasoning on this one. We have no hint of a new member other than Aokiji so placing an unknown new pirate in the seat of 10th commander goes against what's been shown in the manga so far. Whether that stays true or not is to be decided but right now there's no evidence supporting it only evidence against it's alternative.

Anyway to my main point for this post, Dressrosa was after Smoker saw Aokiji on Punk Hazard, I can't recall right now if their discussion was shown in full but Smoker would likely have learned Aokiji has been sailing with BB. Then being a good Marine like he is, he'd have reported that. From there reports would be former Admiral Aokiji has joined forces with BB Pirates, thus leading to the assumption by Gatz a week or so later that BB had 10 commanders. It's as likely that page was referring to the OP world perceiving Aokiji joining BB Pirates as it is there's a new BB Pirate unknown to us readers. I wouldn't be 100% shocked to find out it was Weevil and BB used him to take out the WB PIrates during their battle, fact is we just don't know yet until all BB's commanders are ID'd.

On a side note idk why if we count Chopper as a SH we don't count Stronger as a BBP? When we see him in battle we can make that call officially, for all we know he could be deceptively strong like Chopper can be, after all it was said BB doesn't let weaklings in his crew. The main reason I could see not counting him is because he functions as a pair with Q so technically he should be counted in Q's ranking. It's just funny to me to see so much opposition to considering him a counted member when we all count Chopper among the SH's ranks.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Jesus
Shillew
Laffette
Doc Q
Van Agur
Vasco Shot
Sanjuan wolf
Catrina
Alvao

That is nine people.

Only ten if you count the horse.

You *****'s have been quoting ten but never actually counted.

It was directly said that there are 10 giant CAPTAINS. Each leading a division. Can Doc's horse talk? Can it lead? Obviously no since its always with Doc. Its so simple n' obvious.......

 

[Tomato God]

To be fair Tomato is on the right side of reasoning on this one.

I am always on the right side

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[Simpleatitsbest]

It was directly said that there are 10 giant CAPTAINS. Each leading a division. Can Doc's horse talk? Can it lead? Obviously no since its always with Doc. Its so simple n' obvious.......

To add to this, as of now we can only refer to the horse as being an asset to Doc Q, I mean you wouldn't say Vivi and then Carue, you'd say Vivi and know that she has Carue as an asset to assist her, or similarly from the Alabasta arc, the baseball guy with the dog that at the cannon fruit or something, the dog was an asset not a separate member... The reason we could Chopper is because obviously he has been portrayed as a full fledged member of the Strawhats who can fight, is skillful, has a role and duty, is his own person who can be depended on and... well... I shouldn't really have to explain much else on this.

 

[ssjelf]

To be fair Tomato is on the right side of reasoning on this one. We have no hint of a new member other than Aokiji so placing an unknown new pirate in the seat of 10th commander goes against what's been shown in the manga so far. Whether that stays true or not is to be decided but right now there's no evidence supporting it only evidence against it's alternative.

Anyway to my main point for this post, Dressrosa was after Smoker saw Aokiji on Punk Hazard, I can't recall right now if their discussion was shown in full but Smoker would likely have learned Aokiji has been sailing with BB. Then being a good Marine like he is, he'd have reported that. From there reports would be former Admiral Aokiji has joined forces with BB Pirates, thus leading to the assumption by Gatz a week or so later that BB had 10 commanders. It's as likely that page was referring to the OP world perceiving Aokiji joining BB Pirates as it is there's a new BB Pirate unknown to us readers. I wouldn't be 100% shocked to find out it was Weevil and BB used him to take out the WB PIrates during their battle, fact is we just don't know yet until all BB's commanders are ID'd.

On a side note idk why if we count Chopper as a SH we don't count Stronger as a BBP? When we see him in battle we can make that call officially, for all we know he could be deceptively strong like Chopper can be, after all it was said BB doesn't let weaklings in his crew. The main reason I could see not counting him is because he functions as a pair with Q so technically he should be counted in Q's ranking. It's just funny to me to see so much opposition to considering him a counted member when we all count Chopper among the SH's ranks.

Smoker most definitely didn't report aokiji. Remember he told them to act as if he was never there and they all agreed. Smoker was also content with aokiji's answer about who he "was". That tenth commander thing could still be referring to him though because of rumors being spread and such. In other words it could be rumored but not known who the tenth was, but everyone knows via rumors of the tenth commander.

 

[sravan]

I don't know about others.But i definitely want to see new members in the crew who are strong,calm,cool........
for me
vivi
jimbei
kinemon/raizou/momo(any one of them)
carrot(she will fit in SH's believe it)

 

[Anduril]

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[chopstickchakra]

Smoker most definitely didn't report aokiji. Remember he told them to act as if he was never there and they all agreed. Smoker was also content with aokiji's answer about who he "was". That tenth commander thing could still be referring to him though because of rumors being spread and such. In other words it could be rumored but not known who the tenth was, but everyone knows via rumors of the tenth commander.

I didn't remember that bit between him and Aokiji but I'll take your word and I agree with you the world knows there's a tenth but probably not the who.