Why there is no Sarutobi like Hiruzen Sarutobi who can beat Hashirama and Madara?

[RasenKirin]

Edo Madara > Edo Hashirama > Sarutobi.

Hashirama > EMS Madara > Sarutobi.

EMS + Rinnegan Madara > Hashirama > Sarutobi.

 

[lonewolf77766]

Here's proof right here for do you think A and Tsunade attacks is stronger than Sasuke's Kirin I highly doubt it...itachi had just the Skeleton form of his Susanoo on and blocked one the strongest if not the strongest lighting technique which uses raw lighting by the way not chakra...And besides he also has yata's mirror for an extra line of defense

Physical attacks and energy attacks are two different things.

Susanno is weak against physical attacks. A and Tsunade smashed Edo-Madara's Susanoo, a Susanoo superior to Itachi. A also smashed Sasuke's Susanoo.

Yata Mirror is only good for elemental attacks because it can change it's elemental state.

 

[HitmanSasuke23]

Physical attacks and energy attacks are two different things.

Susanno is weak against physical attacks. A and Tsunade smashed Edo-Madara's Susanoo, a Susanoo superior to Itachi. A also smashed Sasuke's Susanoo.

Yata Mirror is only good for elemental attacks because it change it's elemental state.

The Susanno's that was weakend by physical attacks were not complete Susanoo's...we never seen a complete susanoo damaged by a physical attack... I guess we're about to find out that Madara is using his complete Susanoo...when Sasuke's was complete we didnt get to see it in action because he ran out of chakra and Itachi's was not damaged again because sasuke was out of chakra

 

[lonewolf77766]

The Susanno's that was weakend by physical attacks were not complete Susanoo's...we never seen a complete susanoo damaged by a physical attack... I guess we're about to find out that Madara is using his complete Susanoo...when Sasuke's was complete we didnt get to see it in action because he ran out of chakra and Itachi's was not damaged again because sasuke was out of chakra

LOL, it was not weakened when A and Tsunade smashed Madara's Susanoo. Also, keep in mind:

Complete Kyuubi is superior, larger and heavier than Itachi's complete Susanoo.

Yes, Hiruzen pushed away Complete Kurama from the village, that alone would destroy Itachi's Complete Susanoo and his skull.

 

[LegendaryAce]

Edo Madara > Edo Hashirama > Sarutobi.

Hashirama > EMS Madara > Sarutobi.

EMS + Rinnegan Madara > Hashirama > Sarutobi.

This.

 

[Prime Rib]

his dad supposely was more powerful then him, mikoto named her own son after him lol