why the sharingan is better than the rinnigon

[Darkdeeds]

Those ninjutsu u copy , Susanoo, amatersu would be useless because it would absorb the attack or chakra. Even If they were to copy ones ninjutsu odds are it would be weak. Example kakashi copying rasengan - weak ; kakashi zanbuza- strong. What Uchiha have u seen copy Someones ninjutsu from part 2? Noone

Sharingan doesn't have any defense to chibaku tensei or shinra. Not everyone has the potential to get Susanoo. Ie: Kakashi, shisui, izuna, Tobi etc. I included Kakashis name because although he isn't An Uchiha he was able to get MS.

It's clear that all Rinnegan so far have powers of SPOP. Not all sharingan has the power to do amatersu or Susanoo etc. Rinnegan > Sharingan. There's a reason why it's the next step above Sharingan.

If Madara had EMS already why would he try to get Rinnegan ? He tried to decrypt the Uchiha tablet, try to get the power of the SO6P.

Sharingan abilities vary, not everyone can unlock MS let alone EMS
Those who do unlock EMS can go a step further to Rinnegan.

Rinnegan is two steps ahead from Sharingan.
Sharingan-->MS-->EMS-->Rinnegan

Sharingan users abilities vary, could be for the Better or worse. Rinnegan you come fully loaded.

Perfect Susanoo was compared to A bijuu. It took Hachibi's TBB, itachis Susanoo, and Naruto's rasenshuriken to destroy a chibaku. The meteor is a different story, it could be destroyed.

Nagato vs Itachi , Itachi would have lost because chibaku tensei. No defense to it without two others help. Rinnegan > Sharingan

Sasuke has Sharingan, Susanoo plus amatersu, he would have gotten demolished from Oonoki's dust tech.

Oonoki's dust tech had no effect to madara due to Rinnegan. Rinnegan can absorb chakra and replenish the user as it happens to Naruto and Bee fight against Nagato. Don't believe me go back to manga. Its like a samahada , it absorbed bees BM and reverted him back to normal.

What I'm implying is not only does it absorb chakra but it reverts it to it's own by even healing him.

Rinnegan > Sharingan .

Taijutsu would be useless. Shinra or chibaku let alone meteor and it's over. You got off topic there with the Taijutsu we're talking about just the eyes and it's effects.

Just wanted to say something about chibaku tensi its not a god move ok lol. Just because in the manga everyone used their strong moves on it to destroy it doesn't mean thats what it takes exactly. They used all their moves to be sure they got out of it. But if you can point out where it says they needed all three then ok. One more thing i don't know how amaterasu would be useless against the rinnegan if they could absorb the chakra out of amaterasu why didn't edo naggato do that (i know i probably killed his name). It can be shinra tensi'd off but thats all we've seen remember amaterasu is a fire that can only be put out by the sharingan. Imo atleast.

:sy: Had to scratch my head because all the things you mention about sharingon, the renningon could mostly do if not better. The thing about it is we have not seen kishimoto go in depth with the rinnegan abilities, just like we have not seen him focus on the byakugan. Madara didn't even really focus on the it either he just used one or two skills then he started spamming the first hokage jutsu. I believe the eye boosted his jutsu abilities but of course kishimoto did not focus too much on it. Nagato was good with the eye but he himself didn't really bring out its full capabilities that i know the eye has.

Just so you know, sharingon wouldn't be able to copy the meteor jutsu the eye has. ( if i am wrong about this well someone please correct me)

Lets look at a few things it can do.

Control 5 tail beast at onces

Bring people back to life

meteor spam

chakra absorption

share vision

master of genjutsu, ninjutsu, taijutsu

control people

Naraka Path
Outer Path
Outer Path: Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique
Preta Path
Shinra Tensei
Six Paths of Pain
Summoning: Demonic Statue of the Outer Path

Animal Path
Asura Path
Banshō Ten'in
Chakra Chains (Manga only)
Chibaku Tensei
Creation of All Things

And many other things that have yet to be showed.

Im not sure when the rinnegan controlled 5 biju at once. If your reffering to the naruto and tobi fight then i dunno about that one. They were sealed inside the gedo mazo then put into the bodies of the dead jinchurici (killed that name aswell lol). And even after being sealed they were still fighting back which the kyubi wasn't doing to madara.

 

[AlexXx]

Hell no! No matter how much logic anybody tries to use... the Rinnegan is the strongest doujutsu there is.

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im with you

 

[Darkdeeds]

Oh yea and btw people stop mentioning creation of all things. The sage of six paths could do the so called creation of all things. Does not mean rinnegan creates all things. The "god" known as the sage of six paths could create all things.

 

[darthvader5666]

Sharingan

- trap users in genjutsu
- see flow of chakra
- copy any jutsu regardless of chakra nature (as long as the user can use that chakra nature)
- read target movements
- ems
- susanoo, amaterasu, tsukuyomi
- with the cells from the senju can unlock there own rinnegan and switch back and forth

Rinnegan(sorry if i forget anything)

- shared vision
- see flow of chakra
- master all chakra nature's
- the so6p
- Shinra Tensei
- Chibaku Tensei
- 6 paths of pain and their abilities
- Controlling people with chakra rods
- Madara's meteors
- Gedo Mazo
- Rinne Tensei
- etc

fixed. Rinnegan > Sharingan. There's a reason the rinnegan is the sharingan's final evolution. Not to mention it's likely the "final secret of the sharingan" that Itachi was talking about.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

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Kakashi is a elite ninja know throughout the entire shinobi world. In the chapter he taught Naruto of Chakra Natures, he told him that Jonin Usualy have 2 or 3 now correct me if I'm wrong but Kakashi has shown only 3 nature in canon material and is a jonin for over 16 years. He was also part of the ANBU. I have to trouble thinking he could have 3 natures.

When you look at Itachi, I think the guy must have seen a huge amount of techniques yet is only shown using Fire and Water style techniques, why ? Because he only mastered those 2. Same goes for Sasuke.

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Here we see that Kakashi says that Jonin NORMALLY have at least two.

However, can you think of many other Jonin OTHER than Kakashi who have more than two natures? There really aren't many. Asuma had two (fire and wind), Kurenai has none as far as I see, Itachi has water and fire, and Sasuke (if you REALLLY want to include him) has fire and lightning.

Oonoki and Mei have several chakra natures, but seeing as they are part of their Kekkai Genkai that would be cheap to include them. Oonoki has earth, wind, and fire. Mei has water, fire, and earth.

So we have a small list.... out of 80,000 Shinobi. Meaning that it is NOT very common for Shinobi to have MORE than two natures, and the few who do use it as part of their Kekkai Genkai. Haku for instance, only HAD two, which he used to create Yoton, but even then, he was never explicitly seen to use wind.

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Here, Kakashi says he can't copy Haku's jutsu BECAUSE it's a Kekkai Genkai, but does not mention the fact that he hasn't learned the nature of "wind" yet.

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Kakashi says here that elemental re composition takes a number of YEARS to learn, but yet Sasuke managed to learn Chidori in a month.

Coincidence? I think not. He obviously had to use his Sharingan to cut down the amount of time it would take to learn the A-rank Chidori.

If the Sharingan cannot just outrightly copy a technique, then it sure as hell helps when learning the nature of it.

 

[kaka96]

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Here we see that Kakashi says that Jonin NORMALLY have at least two.

However, can you think of many other Jonin OTHER than Kakashi who have more than two natures? There really aren't many. Asuma had two (fire and wind), Kurenai has none as far as I see, Itachi has water and fire, and Sasuke (if you REALLLY want to include him) has fire and lightning.

Oonoki and Mei have several chakra natures, but seeing as they are part of their Kekkai Genkai that would be cheap to include them. Oonoki has earth, wind, and fire. Mei has water, fire, and earth.

So we have a small list.... out of 80,000 Shinobi. Meaning that it is NOT very common for Shinobi to have MORE than two natures, and the few who do use it as part of their Kekkai Genkai. Haku for instance, only HAD two, which he used to create Yoton, but even then, he was never explicitly seen to use wind.

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Here, Kakashi says he can't copy Haku's jutsu BECAUSE it's a Kekkai Genkai, but does not mention the fact that he hasn't learned the nature of "wind" yet.

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Kakashi says here that elemental re composition takes a number of YEARS to learn, but yet Sasuke managed to learn Chidori in a month.

Coincidence? I think not. He obviously had to use his Sharingan to cut down the amount of time it would take to learn the A-rank Chidori.

If the Sharingan cannot just outrightly copy a technique, then it sure as hell helps when learning the nature of it.

Well lightning is his affinity so maybe sharingan can help accelerate the process on a chakra nature you already possess.

But lets not forget that Sasuke is suppose to be the genius, he controlled Amaterasu and Susanoo in such a short amount of time, it was lame ass, I mean the very first time he used Amaterasu, he was able to burn most of the Hachibi.

But mostly, I think Kishi, did not think of that back than, Sasuke learned the fire style in less the a month as well. He didn't have sharingan back than now did he?

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

Well lightning is his affinity so maybe sharingan can help accelerate the process on a chakra nature you already possess.

But lets not forget that Sasuke is suppose to be the genius, he controlled Amaterasu and Susanoo in such a short amount of time, it was lame ass, I mean the very first time he used Amaterasu, he was able to burn most of the Hachibi.

But mostly, I think Kishi, did not think of that back than, Sasuke learned the fire style in less the a month as well. He didn't have sharingan back than now did he?

Well you did get me there, but it's also possible that since fire is a natural Uchiha affinity, that could very well BE his affinity. Amaterasu is also a fire release technique too, which could be why he is so adept at it.

Also, keep in note that the fireball technique is a C-Rank technique, whereas Chidori is A-Rank. It's much harder to learn Chidori than the the Gokakyu fireball.

 

[toviasrepier]

sharingan

- trap users in genjutsu
- see flow of chakra
- copy any jutsu regardless of chakra nature
- read target movements
- ems
- susanoo, amaterasu, tsukuyomi
- with the cells from the senju can unlock there own rinnigon and switch back and forth

rinnigon(sorry if i forget anything)

- shared vision
- see flow of chakra
- master all chakra nature's
- the so6p

the only argument i heard for nagato is that he can absorb all chakra then all you need is tijutsu. It can be easy to dodge the asura path. The anime path summonings could easily get destroyed or a genjutsu could be placed on both the summoning and the summoner. The deva path is on a time limit and if naruto could do it anyone as fast or faster could do it.

sharingan fanboy

 

[Stark]

You can't even spell Rinnengan bro.

 

[kaka96]

Well you did get me there, but it's also possible that since fire is a natural Uchiha affinity, that could very well BE his affinity. Amaterasu is also a fire release technique too, which could be why he is so adept at it.

Also, keep in note that the fireball technique is a C-Rank technique, whereas Chidori is A-Rank. It's much harder to learn Chidori than the the Gokakyu fireball.

The jutsu being an easier one, perhaps the nature transforming took as long for both. I think Sharingan only helped into learning the Jutsu itself faster. Even if you know how to do a jutsu, you must practice it for it to be at it's peak potential.

Also, Chidori is also in need of spacial-recomposition ( I think it was called) but, Naruto mastered a much more difficult on in less than a month without Sharingan so....

 

[ShiroT]

did any of you read the title it says why i think its BETTER not stronger. something can be better without being greater or stronger

 

[ShiroT]

Learn how to spell *rinnegan* before you try and talk bad about it. lol

lol learn to know what a opinion is and when someone is trash talking something

 

[ShiroT]

This^^

you don't know what exactly the so6p did and madara is switching between both

 

[ShiroT]

You forgot for the rinnengan section control of life and death. :| Also you can remove souls at will. Augment parts of your body to have machine like qualities based on the users imagination(so you can make your body into any machine beyond human comprehension). control over gravity. The ability to create the ****ing moon! Reanimate bodies so you can use the six paths of pain technique as shown by tobi with the 6 sealed jinchurriki. Also as long as the naraka path is alive the six paths of pein will always come back no matter what.

Need I go on?

you can only remove souls if you lie. lol its a moon get over it. we don't know if pain could do it on himslef as far as i know he needed someone else to do it i.e the pain with the naraka path

 

[ShiroT]

Those ninjutsu u copy , Susanoo, amatersu would be useless because it would absorb the attack or chakra. Even If they were to copy ones ninjutsu odds are it would be weak. Example kakashi copying rasengan - weak ; kakashi zanbuza- strong. What Uchiha have u seen copy Someones ninjutsu from part 2? Noone

Sharingan doesn't have any defense to chibaku tensei or shinra. Not everyone has the potential to get Susanoo. Ie: Kakashi, shisui, izuna, Tobi etc. I included Kakashis name because although he isn't An Uchiha he was able to get MS.

It's clear that all Rinnegan so far have powers of SPOP. Not all sharingan has the power to do amatersu or Susanoo etc. Rinnegan > Sharingan. There's a reason why it's the next step above Sharingan.

If Madara had EMS already why would he try to get Rinnegan ? He tried to decrypt the Uchiha tablet, try to get the power of the SO6P.

Sharingan abilities vary, not everyone can unlock MS let alone EMS
Those who do unlock EMS can go a step further to Rinnegan.

Rinnegan is two steps ahead from Sharingan.
Sharingan-->MS-->EMS-->Rinnegan

Sharingan users abilities vary, could be for the Better or worse. Rinnegan you come fully loaded.

Perfect Susanoo was compared to A bijuu. It took Hachibi's TBB, itachis Susanoo, and Naruto's rasenshuriken to destroy a chibaku. The meteor is a different story, it could be destroyed.

Nagato vs Itachi , Itachi would have lost because chibaku tensei. No defense to it without two others help. Rinnegan > Sharingan

Sasuke has Sharingan, Susanoo plus amatersu, he would have gotten demolished from Oonoki's dust tech.

Oonoki's dust tech had no effect to madara due to Rinnegan. Rinnegan can absorb chakra and replenish the user as it happens to Naruto and Bee fight against Nagato. Don't believe me go back to manga. Its like a samahada , it absorbed bees BM and reverted him back to normal.

What I'm implying is not only does it absorb chakra but it reverts it to it's own by even healing him.

Rinnegan > Sharingan .

Taijutsu would be useless. Shinra or chibaku let alone meteor and it's over. You got off topic there with the Taijutsu we're talking about just the eyes and it's effects.

pain had the rinnigan for a while and claimed he didn't master it so it could be similar stages to the rinnigan like the sharingan.

 

[ShiroT]

hmm u suck i didnt even read ur shitty reasons cuz in anime/manga said that rinnegan is the most powerful dojutsu !

lol again read the title it says BETTER not stronger

 

[ShiroT]

Lol best thing about his thread is he didn't mispell Rinnegan accidentally on multiple occasions we see "Rinnogon"

Btw i don't think the dojutsu used by S06P which controlled the Ten-Tails

Madara at best with Ems - Controlled the Nine-Tails which is only 9/55 Ten-Tails Chakra

or he only wanted to control one best to save chakra

 

[ShiroT]

your sharigan has to be at such a high level to unlock rinnegan why would it be worse, it's like saying charmeleon is better than charizard

lol but you don't even know if you have to unlock the rinnegan's abilities so i could say the same. you can train charmeleon to be better than charizard and charmeleon might be able to learn good moves charizard can't

 

[ShiroT]

i didnt even wanna read it, FANBOY CAN SPELL rinnegan:flaw:.
Uchiha fanboy.

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lol im a fan of all 3 of the Dōjutsu

 

[ShiroT]

You can't even spell Rinnengan bro.

lol its rinnegan or adleast it only has 2 n's