why the sharingan is better than the rinnigon

ShiroT

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Naruto had the help of the 2 sage toads, the 3 giant toads, intels on his abilites
was fresh on energy

Pain, had already used massive chakra, Deva path was unavailable for a while, barely knew his abilities, Managed to nail get hold of Naruto with preta path but didn't kill him cause of plot and than deva path nailed him on the ground where he spared hi because of plot and got saved by Hinata's death that caused the kyubi's rampage where Naruto was no longer in control, thus wasn't the one who fought his way out of Chibaku Tensei. He ended u sacrificing himself by plot no jutsu because of talk no jutsu

how can you say he murdered him? Pain dominated that fight despite all of his disadvantages

the 3 toads couldve been summonings
 

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the 3 toads couldve been summonings

he didn't even summon them, Ma did
And they were the ones to hold the summons of Pain back, and allow Naruto to kill Animal path not any summon can do this ya know
 

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Lol why do you think they were out of the village? They could have murdered most the paths

and since the uchiha's were elite i.e sasuke and since he was as fast as rock lee during the chunin exams he could be fast enough for pain?
 

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and since the uchiha's were elite i.e sasuke and since he was as fast as rock lee during the chunin exams he could be fast enough for pain?

No, because the would have to go gates for that, and Sasuke cannot do so

Maybe Gay wouldn't need to, but he's way above Lee
 

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Rinnengan is brute force, Sharingan is very strategic. It depends on the wielder.
 

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Sharingan

- trap users in genjutsu
- see flow of chakra
- copy any jutsu regardless of chakra nature
- read target movements
For Only Elite Users:
- ems
- susanoo, amaterasu, tsukuyomi
- with the cells from the senju can unlock there own rinnigon and switch back and forth

Rinnigan(sorry if i forget anything)

For All Basic Users
- shared vision
- see flow of chakra
- master all chakra nature's
- Yin release
- yang release
- yin yang release
- Epic summons
- Gedo Mazo
- Chakra absorbtion
- Soul Ripping
- Modern Cyborg
- Instant Healing
- King of Hell
- Judgement
For Only Elite Users:
- Chibaku Tensei
- Creation of all Things

the only argument i heard for nagato is that he can absorb all chakra then all you need is tijutsu.But speed greater than Kakashi it can be easy to dodge the asura path.But other five paths will be sawrming to attack the anime path summonings could easily get destroyed or a genjutsu could be placed on both the summoning The Paths can repaired and genjust can not be cast over any path to much effect and the beast can be just sent back (Genjusu only works on mamals and reptiles) and the summoner. the deva path is on a time limit and if naruto could do it anyone as fast or faster could do it. Naruto had to withstand a Shinra tensei and remain at a fairly close range for that

Now this is more or less correct
 
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Sharingan can copy the techinique, but if you don't have the chakra nature, ya can't use it/ Rinnegan can't copy but can use any chakra nature, giving acces to much more techniques than the sharingan can

Sharingan see's the flow of chakra / can see flow of chakra and pinpoint the location miles away

Use's Genjutsu / Ripes out your fcking soul

Reads target movement / outdone by share field of vision

Susanoo Amaterasu / canceled by preta path

Then add to rinnegan, the summons, Gedo Mazo, Chibaku Tensei, shinra tensei, bansho te'nin , outer path( control life and death and bind people's mind to your control (enough to control a jinchuriki , I call that better than your average sharingan Genjutsu)) , nakara path, asura path, the ability to completely disturb and control your chakra by piercing you with the black rods

Take out that crap of getting your own rinnegan, we don't even know how it works

FALSE.

You CAN use a technique that IS NOT your affinity with the Sharingan, but you cannot use it AS THOUGH it is your affinity. Sasuke has Lightning and Fire Release that he uses proficiently. Amaterasu is Fire Release that is taken to "the highest level", and Kirin is Lightning Release (no matter how you look at it).

I do doubt though that you can easily copy a technique that isn't your nature, but look at how many Kakashi has. He's shown Water, Earth, and Lightning release which supposedly take YEARS to master each time, though I am sure time with his Sharingan cut it down dramatically.

Rinnegan just lets you use all chakra natures as though they are your affinity. You can learn whatever nature you want, but you will never truly master it because your chakra is predisposed towards a certain nature. Rinnegan users do NOT have this problem. I guess it ties into the whole "eyes that give birth to ninjutsu" theme. You can't really give birth to ninjutsu if you can't master it eh?
 
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Ur letting ur uchiha fanboyism get in the way of common sense. Rinnegan>all other doujutsu, and besides, nagato hadnt mastered it or showed us its full capabilities in ninjutsu and genjutsu. Rinnegan=demi god.
 

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The rinnegan is what awaits an uchiha when he progresses beyond the sharingan... Enough said
 

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Sharingan

- trap users in genjutsu
- see flow of chakra
- copy any jutsu regardless of chakra nature
- read target movements
- ems
- susanoo, amaterasu, tsukuyomi
- with the cells from the senju can unlock there own rinnigon and switch back and forth

Rinnigon(sorry if i forget anything)

- shared vision
- see flow of chakra
- master all chakra nature's
- the so6p

the only argument i heard for nagato is that he can absorb all chakra then all you need is tijutsu. it can be easy to dodge the asura path. the anime path summonings could easily get destroyed or a genjutsu could be placed on both the summoning and the summoner. the deva path is on a time limit and if naruto could do it anyone as fast or faster could do it.

bwahaha arent we the hypocrite? Its comical that on a thread of yours i just finished posting to, you hype up nagato and the rinnegan, and yet here you are trashing it. Anyways, inspite of it being overshown now, the rinnegan hasnt been properly described yet. Because it is the evolution, aka the truest form of the eye techs it is common sense that a rinnegan user (obviously naturally achieved) can use sharingan techs as well because they fall under the tree of low level rinnegan. Nagato couldnt use them because he had rinnegan transplanted with no sharingan so he had no knowledge of how to grasp the other techs. Tobi spent his whole time controlling the bijuus which he felt was better than the sharingan techs, and up until ET being ended probably was. Madara has half and half but still, if he had rinnegan fully im willing to bet he could still pop out perfect susoono. We have only seen three examples of rinnegan, one being no chance for sharingan use, and the other two are setup in a storyline that makes sharingan tech usage superfluous and unneeded, so until we see more madara/tobi battles, or new sharingan to rinnegan users, we cant know but im willing to bet if sasuke got rinnegan(god forbid) that he could shove an ameterasu down his opponents throat then absorb it right back just to torture them.
 

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When sharingan creates a moon then we can talk.
 

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Sharingan can copy the techinique, but if you don't have the chakra nature, ya can't use it/ Rinnegan can't copy but can use any chakra nature, giving acces to much more techniques than the sharingan can

Sharingan see's the flow of chakra / can see flow of chakra and pinpoint the location miles away

Use's Genjutsu / Ripes out your fcking soul

Reads target movement / outdone by share field of vision

Susanoo Amaterasu / canceled by preta path

Then add to rinnegan, the summons, Gedo Mazo, Chibaku Tensei, shinra tensei, bansho te'nin , outer path( control life and death and bind people's mind to your control (enough to control a jinchuriki , I call that better than your average sharingan Genjutsu)) , nakara path, asura path, the ability to completely disturb and control your chakra by piercing you with the black rods

Take out that crap of getting your own rinnegan, we don't even know how it works

only good post.. thanks for not being an idiot like the OP
 

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1. naruto destroyed the guys face without using chakra
2. anyone with enough speed can dodge the attacks
3. genjutsu
4. so that means its possible
5. naruto didn't learn to control the nine tailed fox when he faught pain so alot of people were faster than him at that time

Flawed argument !
Naruto had sage mode when he fought pain. Faster and stronger than 98% of shinobi out there.
 

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lol so the only way you are able to place Sharingan above rinnegan is by adding rinnegan to sharingan? flawed logic

That's not flawed logic.. that's what tobi did when he took out nagato's eyes.. :)
Come on, cut the kid some slack... :cool:
 

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Lol why do you think they were out of the village? They could have murdered most the paths

I agree to that.. Anywhere above 6 levels, they are unbelievably deadly.. and, i guess it would have signalled the end of PAIN if they went for the one that resurrects first. Game Over in 5 minutes FLAT !
 
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