Why the hyuga would win a clan war vs the Uchiha

[unknownvillain1254]

I think it's like this

Byakugan>1T Sharingan
Byakugan<=2T Sharingan
3T and above are a stomp

like you said opinion but facts are
Base byakugan = base sharingan

 

[unknownvillain1254]

I agree with this. but it also depends on how certain Uchihas would use their MS efficiently. not everyone who would unlock the MS for the first time would be able to form a V3 instantly. and also Susanoo is a Chakra based substance so if a Jyuken user managed to get close without getting blitzed and made contact with it, he should be able to destroy it based on Neji statement and feats that Jyuken is capable of destroying Chakra based substances. and some MS powers like Amaterasu can be countered by releasing Chakra from all around the body to block the flames and spinning to blast it, basically performing Rotation [

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]. but some MS powers like Kamui would grant the victory easily I guess. it depends on which abilities would an MS grant for the user. so I agree. if the two sides would engage in a war. the Uchiha would definitely take this.

but you can say that the Hyuga would give them a good fight. especially if there are some on the Hyuga sides can perform an Air Wall Palm like Hiashi.

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or Air Palms barrage

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The uchiha getting MS is one of the biggest reaches in the entire series these people have existed for hundreds of thousands of years and only have five. And as we have seen basically three battles and MS is gone. I see them Superman capes is coming out

 

[LeSauce]

Threads like this... As a Hyuga fan and a person who's fav character was an Uchiha, I can safely say that this conversation is pointless. A bait thread over a topic that's been used a billion times over the few short years I have been here. Honestly, if you guys want to debate Hyuga vs Uchiha stop using the main Uchiha characters as they are one in a billion cases and stop attributing feats from non-Hyuga characters... In fact, if they have names they shouldn't even be mentioned. It all comes down to how many 3t Uchiha can be produced vs how many actually skilled Hyuga are produce and even then every individual battle breaks down to which combatant was the most skilled. Also, from a non-bias standpoint, the Uchiha would ultimately win simply because the odds of one of them losing so many loved ones would advance their 3t to MS which would take a good chunk out of the Hyuga if not completely wipe them out depending on that Uchiha's MS abilities.

1) Yet to be proven

2) Yes, they can see far making them good scouts but I'm pretty sure the Uchiha would have close to this via jutsu or summonings. Yes, they can distinguish people by chakra signatures but that doesn't automatically mean they have the upper hand. They would have no way of telling that person's capabilities and the Uchiha can also distinguish people by chakra signatures meaning even if your statement were to happen the Uchiha could easily rearrange the formations to adjust to their favor ultimately playing one big game of tag.

3) Yes, Byakugan can see through a lot of things but like others have said one very well crafted barrier and the byakugan is useless or even if a group of people produced multiple shadow clones. As far as the mist one why would it be there since Hyuga from canon are primarily recon and CQC combatants and are never shown using elemental ninjutsu besides Boruto. Also, if by chance some Hyuga does know suiton the Uchiha could just either blow it away with futon or evaporate it with katon... I mean seriously they aren't retarded.

4) Same as with the elemental while yes it is likely that some do practice gen from what we have seen and read they primarily focus on Jyuken training :/

5) Yes, so can alot of other things like ninjutsu :/

6) Umm jutsu.... lot's and lots of jutsu...

7) Just because you have Gentle Fist doesn't make you a CQC god... that all comes down to the combatant's individual skill similar to when Lee fought Sasuke for the first time.

Don't forget Boruto has both Hamura and Hago chakra in him as well as Tailed beast chakra, some weird Otsutsuki seal, and some weird new variant of the byakugan. Odds are he could probably beat a Susanoo whenever he reaches prime imo.

Well, your first paragraph is wrong. Thousands of years of war and Madara is the first to get MS. 2t>=Byakugan. 3t poops.

OT: LOOOOL

Baby Izuna kills them all.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Because hyugas >>>>>>> uchihas.

 

[Uchihauzamakibarrage]

Pffttttttt this thread made me LOL.

OT: Keep dreaming mans.

 

[Pyro NB]

Finally a somewhat decent response you say ultimately the uchiha how would win I disagree and I'm talking about the clan

1. The first one is a non-negotiable they do have the Tactical advantage they can see into the enemy's Camp they can choose who they want to go into battle with and they can see all traps laid out tactical advantage

2. I don't understand why you're bringing summon into this makes no sense. Okay now you're reaching and add-abilities the Uchiha can not tell somebody apart by chaka signatures

3.ok well name me a few barriers that the the byakugan can not see through. And how would they know if they're barrier would works unless they know how the byakugan work? And did you say they cannot use elements when everybody in the entire series has an element. Hell neji had 3 water fire earth

4. So basically you agree

5. so are you saying that can't destroy ninjutsu

6. I find this one the most cute please name the Abundant of Jutsu that can't stop on hyuga Blitz that they have access to please start naming them. Because Fireball Jutsu is not going to cut it

7. Well hate to bust your bubble but it actually does one touch and you're dead so that means you can't even block my attack or allow me to touch you out of fear of death seems pretty god-like to me. And just like you said individual skill majority of the time it's built in this one skill that's why they are praised as best taijutus


8. The Uchiha have been fighting For thousands of not hundreds of thousands of years but only have 5 Ms and let's be honest all of those people were main characters

1) we can do that now in RL with drones and satellites but you don't see us instantly winning wars.

2) Summonings are a form of ninjutsu which could be used to give them the same advantage as the Hyuga in terms of distance scouting and recon. How am I adding an ability when chakra signatures are determined person's chakra color? "The user can see chakra, giving it colour in order to distinguish it by its composition and source." Since you used wiki in some of your other posts I assumed you knew this :/

3) Four Black Fog Battle Formation which was used by the sound four :/ and who wouldn't know how the byakugan worked? It was one of the famed 3 great dojutsu... Yes, everyone in the series has one or more elemental nature but if they don't train ninjutsu how would they use that elemental nature? Hyuga train in taijutsu and specifically Gentle Fist so like I said the odds of Hyuga using ninjutsu are slim I think the only example of this would be Hinata using water needle in the anime and like I said earlier if they have a name take them out of this conversation.

4) Agree with the possibility of a Hyuga having genjutsu being slim? If so then yes, just because we are told they could use it doesn't mean they will and again show me where you see Hyuga using gen?

5)Don't know how you got that from my reply but yes they can destroy ninjutsu. Can any ole Hyuga destroy every single ninjutsu in the world logically no. Also, the second part to my response referred to how other ninjutsu can destroy ninjutsu.

6) Do I need to link the jutsu thread? There are plenty of jutsu that can be used against Hyuga especially considering that pure chakra is weaker to elemental chakra with the exceptions of a few pure jutsu. There is a reason why Hyuga fight CQC and not from a distance...

7) Pretty sure when Hinata fought Neji Neji hit her multiple times and see lived... for someone to instantly die from one strike the Hyuga would have to perfectly land a finger or palm on a vital organ to destroy it which would prove difficult since the Uchiha have high-speed tracking like the Hyuga with the addition to precog so the chances of them ending fights in one blow are slim unless they just got the newborn or runt of the litter so that god-like you speaking off isn't true... Honestly, I could go kill someone now just by punching them hard enough in the solar plexus but the odds of them letting me get a direct hit are slim :/

8) True but sharingan activations are triggered by emotions and if this is an all out war like you want one person statistically is eventually going to either be filled with enough sorrow, rage, vengefulness, stress, desire to be unite with a loved one, desire to protect loved one, or all of the above to activate MS...

Face it logically this is not a one-sided war on either side :/

Well, your first paragraph is wrong. Thousands of years of war and Madara is the first to get MS. 2t>=Byakugan. 3t poops.

OT: LOOOOL

Baby Izuna kills them all.

I would have to disagree 3T has precog, thermal vision, and gen techs if I'm not mistaken which wouldn't give them much of an advantage against the byakugan unless the individual ninja they fought was just way slower and couldn't look into his own chakra network. Also, wasn't the sharingan even in the warring states era rare amongst the Uchiha? Where as the all full blooded Hyuga are born with it?

 

[To Whatever]

Uchiha fans are the smartest dumb-asses on this site.

If they feel they're right, they'll beat you over the head with facts despite it being obvious bait.


lmao

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Wiki...wiki.

you know the wikia cited their sources from the manga

 

[Shruikan]

Hahahaha got negged by a butthurt Hyuga fapboy. Get real amigos, they are a bunch of fodders

 

[Shruikan]

1) we can do that now in RL with drones and satellites but you don't see us instantly winning wars.

2) Summonings are a form of ninjutsu which could be used to give them the same advantage as the Hyuga in terms of distance scouting and recon. How am I adding an ability when chakra signatures are determined person's chakra color? "The user can see chakra, giving it colour in order to distinguish it by its composition and source." Since you used wiki in some of your other posts I assumed you knew this :/

3) Four Black Fog Battle Formation which was used by the sound four :/ and who wouldn't know how the byakugan worked? It was one of the famed 3 great dojutsu... Yes, everyone in the series has one or more elemental nature but if they don't train ninjutsu how would they use that elemental nature? Hyuga train in taijutsu and specifically Gentle Fist so like I said the odds of Hyuga using ninjutsu are slim I think the only example of this would be Hinata using water needle in the anime and like I said earlier if they have a name take them out of this conversation.

4) Agree with the possibility of a Hyuga having genjutsu being slim? If so then yes, just because we are told they could use it doesn't mean they will and again show me where you see Hyuga using gen?

5)Don't know how you got that from my reply but yes they can destroy ninjutsu. Can any ole Hyuga destroy every single ninjutsu in the world logically no. Also, the second part to my response referred to how other ninjutsu can destroy ninjutsu.

6) Do I need to link the jutsu thread? There are plenty of jutsu that can be used against Hyuga especially considering that pure chakra is weaker to elemental chakra with the exceptions of a few pure jutsu. There is a reason why Hyuga fight CQC and not from a distance...

7) Pretty sure when Hinata fought Neji Neji hit her multiple times and see lived... for someone to instantly die from one strike the Hyuga would have to perfectly land a finger or palm on a vital organ to destroy it which would prove difficult since the Uchiha have high-speed tracking like the Hyuga with the addition to precog so the chances of them ending fights in one blow are slim unless they just got the newborn or runt of the litter so that god-like you speaking off isn't true... Honestly, I could go kill someone now just by punching them hard enough in the solar plexus but the odds of them letting me get a direct hit are slim :/

8) True but sharingan activations are triggered by emotions and if this is an all out war like you want one person statistically is eventually going to either be filled with enough sorrow, rage, vengefulness, stress, desire to be unite with a loved one, desire to protect loved one, or all of the above to activate MS...

Face it logically this is not a one-sided war on either side :/

I would have to disagree 3T has precog, thermal vision, and gen techs if I'm not mistaken which wouldn't give them much of an advantage against the byakugan unless the individual ninja they fought was just way slower and couldn't look into his own chakra network. Also, wasn't the sharingan even in the warring states era rare amongst the Uchiha? Where as the all full blooded Hyuga are born with it?

3T Sasuke was destroying kyuubi Naruto who defeated Neji. 3T>Byakugan

That sharingan were rare is debuinked later as Obito had a room fool of Sharingan in his lab

 

[Hakke]

3T Sasuke was destroying kyuubi Naruto who defeated Neji. 3T>Byakugan

That sharingan were rare is debuinked later as Obito had a room fool of Sharingan in his lab

not with the ABC shit logic again. first, if Neji had activated his Byakugan he would've anticipated Naruto's strike from under the ground and counter it. second, just because Sasuke soloed that version of Naruto that does not mean that he could do the same to Neji. because unlike Naruto, Neji is actually skilled in close combat. and the only thing that 3T added to Sasuke is that it increased his reaction speed which can be a big advantage in a battle but it can be useless if you are the one who would be striking because your opponent would be the one reacting

besides the Naruto that fought Neji had a cloak of Kyuubi Chakra that increased the power of his strikes. while the version that fought Sasuke didn't have a cloak of Chakra and didn't show any power feats like the version that fought Neji has shown

also, that isn't an evidence that the 3T is superior. it depends on the users of the Doujutsus themselves. part 1 Hinata had a Byakugan but she was useless and give part 1 Sakura a 3T and she would still be useless. and another example is Nagato with a Rinnegan and Madara with an EMS. guess who is supperior?

 

[Shruikan]

not with the ABC shit logic again. first, if Neji had activated his Byakugan he would've anticipated Naruto's strike from under the ground and counter it. second, just because Sasuke soloed that version of Naruto that does not mean that he could do the same to Neji. because unlike Naruto, Neji is actually skilled in close combat. and the only thing that 3T added to Sasuke is that it increased his reaction speed which can be a big advantage in a battle but it can be useless if you are the one who would be striking because your opponent would be the one reacting

besides the Naruto that fought Neji had a cloak of Kyuubi Chakra that increased the power of his strikes. while the version that fought Sasuke didn't have a cloak of Chakra and didn't show any power feats like the version that fought Neji has shown

also, that isn't an evidence that the 3T is superior. it depends on the user of the Doujutsus themselves. part 1 Hinata had a Byakugan but she was useless and give part 1 Sakura a 3T and she would still be useless. and another example is Nagato with a Rinnegan and Madara with an EMS. guess who is supperior?

This has been beaten to death in that 20 page plus Neji vs Sasuke thread and I am not going to do that over here again. You have been pointed out the flaws in that argument multiple times.

 

[JStar King]

These four say otherwise.

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Sasuke alone would slaughter them all.

 

[King Of Pop]

1)
Face it logically this is not a one-sided war on either side :/

Its actually quite one sided if you know how to properly interpret the manga in which the Uchiha is put in the same league as the senju, not any other clan. Those two only being mentioned as the strongest means they are several tiers above others that includes the Hyuuga. and that was when no MS user was around up until madara and izuna, so not sure why MS is being mentioned as the uchiha only way of winning here. they absolutely do not need it.

 

[Rikudo no Sasuke]

the hyuga would win a clan war vs the Uchiha only in your dreams hhhhhh

uchiha and senju is the strongest in war clans, and the rest are just slaves

 

[To Whatever]

the hyuga would win a clan war vs the Uchiha only in your dreams hhhhhh

uchiha and senju is the strongest in war clans, and the rest are just slaves

Uchiha getting stomped by the senju despite them having sharingan and being the top 2 clans is a testament to how strong the senju were.

Insane.

 

[King Of Pop]

Uchiha getting stomped by the senju despite them having sharingan and being the top 2 clans is a testament to how strong the senju were.

Insane.

That was only during hashiramas era that the tide changed. they have been fighting long before then and they were on par.

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and how is the senjus might relevant to hyuuga???

 

[JaphethCrenshaw]

Uchiha getting stomped by the senju despite them having sharingan and being the top 2 clans is a testament to how strong the senju were.

Insane.

Everything changed when Hashirama and Tobirama came around. Before that, the two clans were always equal. Due to Hashirama being so strong, he was most likely put on the front-lines of the most important battles the clan had with other clans. Hashirama's superiority over everyone tipped the scales.

Before then, the Uchiha and Senju were on the same tier. The only specialty of the Senju was their ability to master techniques which is so polar from who Asura was as a person. The Sharingan could also copy those techniques so it makes me wonder how many techniques they had to make in order to keep even with the Sharingan.

 

[JaphethCrenshaw]

Its actually quite one sided if you know how to properly interpret the manga in which the Uchiha is put in the same league as the senju, not any other clan. Those two only being mentioned as the strongest means they are several tiers above others that includes the Hyuuga. and that was when no MS user was around up until madara and izuna, so not sure why MS is being mentioned as the uchiha only way of winning here. they absolutely do not need it.

This destroyed the thread.

 

[LeSauce]

1) we can do that now in RL with drones and satellites but you don't see us instantly winning wars.

2) Summonings are a form of ninjutsu which could be used to give them the same advantage as the Hyuga in terms of distance scouting and recon. How am I adding an ability when chakra signatures are determined person's chakra color? "The user can see chakra, giving it colour in order to distinguish it by its composition and source." Since you used wiki in some of your other posts I assumed you knew this :/

3) Four Black Fog Battle Formation which was used by the sound four :/ and who wouldn't know how the byakugan worked? It was one of the famed 3 great dojutsu... Yes, everyone in the series has one or more elemental nature but if they don't train ninjutsu how would they use that elemental nature? Hyuga train in taijutsu and specifically Gentle Fist so like I said the odds of Hyuga using ninjutsu are slim I think the only example of this would be Hinata using water needle in the anime and like I said earlier if they have a name take them out of this conversation.

4) Agree with the possibility of a Hyuga having genjutsu being slim? If so then yes, just because we are told they could use it doesn't mean they will and again show me where you see Hyuga using gen?

5)Don't know how you got that from my reply but yes they can destroy ninjutsu. Can any ole Hyuga destroy every single ninjutsu in the world logically no. Also, the second part to my response referred to how other ninjutsu can destroy ninjutsu.

6) Do I need to link the jutsu thread? There are plenty of jutsu that can be used against Hyuga especially considering that pure chakra is weaker to elemental chakra with the exceptions of a few pure jutsu. There is a reason why Hyuga fight CQC and not from a distance...

7) Pretty sure when Hinata fought Neji Neji hit her multiple times and see lived... for someone to instantly die from one strike the Hyuga would have to perfectly land a finger or palm on a vital organ to destroy it which would prove difficult since the Uchiha have high-speed tracking like the Hyuga with the addition to precog so the chances of them ending fights in one blow are slim unless they just got the newborn or runt of the litter so that god-like you speaking off isn't true... Honestly, I could go kill someone now just by punching them hard enough in the solar plexus but the odds of them letting me get a direct hit are slim :/

8) True but sharingan activations are triggered by emotions and if this is an all out war like you want one person statistically is eventually going to either be filled with enough sorrow, rage, vengefulness, stress, desire to be unite with a loved one, desire to protect loved one, or all of the above to activate MS...

Face it logically this is not a one-sided war on either side :/

I would have to disagree 3T has precog, thermal vision, and gen techs if I'm not mistaken which wouldn't give them much of an advantage against the byakugan unless the individual ninja they fought was just way slower and couldn't look into his own chakra network. Also, wasn't the sharingan even in the warring states era rare amongst the Uchiha? Where as the all full blooded Hyuga are born with it?

That's where my logic comes from. If the Uchiha were able to defeat the Hyuga, when most didn't even have the Sharingan, then, at best, the best Hyuga would only be able to contend with a 3t Sharing an user.

Well, that's a brief explanation.