Why should relevant people die?

[Aomine Daiki]

I keep hearing people saying that Kishi needs to grow some balls and that only fodders die while none of the relevant charakters(exept for neji) are still alive.

Thats because all the relevant guys/girls are powerful. the reason fodders die is because they aren't that good shinobis. WHY do people say that it isn't a real war just cuz the most awesome guys dont die? the dont die because their BADASS. They are relevant because of their power. think about it...

 

[Ōkami]

Kishi has a problem of doing quantity over quality.

Look at Oda and One piece.

Though Oda rarely kills off a character from the current timeline but when he does it's impactful and drives the story.

But with Kishi he kills off so many characters that don't have a significant role to be impactful and therefore not a meaningful death.

That's why K11 deaths are needed hell even a Kage or two should bite a bullet.

 

[itachi4real]

All i can say is everything thats happened so far is for the story line. Certain characters are alive for the story. Most of the time we know certain things shouldve happened along the way. Like both obito and kakashi dying but due to the story they are still alive. Hashi and tobirama werent that big of characters to be relevant and stay alive thats why they were killed off so fast. This is about naruto and sasukes story but mainly naruto.

 

[Pirate King]

Haters want people they don't like kilt

 

[AGoodBoy]

Lmao.
Madara and obito make all relevant shinobi lpok fodder. Yet the only relevant shinobi, that took any damage, were the already dead edos?
So kakashi, gaara, guy, etc are more badass than the hokage? Even naruto and sasuke don't count as relevant deaths because their death was just a means to give them a power up

 

[Aomine Daiki]

Lmao.
Madara and obito make all relevant shinobi lpok fodder. Yet the only relevant shinobi, that took any damage, were the already dead edos?
So kakashi, gaara, guy, etc are more badass than the hokage? Even naruto and sasuke don't count as relevant deaths because their death was just a means to give them a power up

yup. Kakashi and guy are ten times more badass then the mizukage, Hokage and Kazekage...

 

[awesomeseimei]

Meaningful deaths help drive plot forward

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

because killing fodders has no effect at all so fodders dying is like noone dying at all
and this is supposed to be a war so if noone really dies it can't be taken seriously

 

[Drax]

So their deaths can be relevant...?:|

 

[-Punk-]

I agree with Okami & I love Gai ...but he needs to die , we need that death.

 

[Xēnovia.]

Kishi has a problem of doing quantity over quality.

Look at Oda and One piece.

Though Oda rarely kills off a character from the current timeline but when he does it's impactful and drives the story.

But with Kishi he kills off so many characters that don't have a significant role to be impactful and therefore not a meaningful death.

That's why K11 deaths are needed hell even a Kage or two should bite a bullet.

Beautifully said.​

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

You know what they call a story where no one dies? A children's book.

 

[~Sky~]

There's nothing more emotional than sacrifice in my opinion.

I'm supposed to take the story seriously if no one except random people died?

We can't always get what we want.

 

[itachi4real]

Lmao.
Madara and obito make all relevant shinobi lpok fodder. Yet the only relevant shinobi, that took any damage, were the already dead edos?
So kakashi, gaara, guy, etc are more badass than the hokage? Even naruto and sasuke don't count as relevant deaths because their death was just a means to give them a power up

Exactly...kakashib is boring period. Hes alive for the story. Not cus hes strong enough to compete with madara:| obito cant f*** wit madara either. Minato should be the only one right now thats facing madara that can actually face madara. Irrelevant weak people are alive for the story

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

lel so you made this thread because of me?
I won't repeat myself, but yeah Kishi lost credibility.

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

Meaningful deaths help drive plot forward

Yeah, but what character's death would help the plot move forward at this point and what would be the meaning? I can't think of any relevant character, other than Obito....

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I keep hearing people saying that Kishi needs to grow some balls and that only fodders die while none of the relevant charakters(exept for neji) are still alive.

Thats because all the relevant guys/girls are powerful. the reason fodders die is because they aren't that good shinobis. WHY do people say that it isn't a real war just cuz the most awesome guys dont die? the dont die because their BADASS. They are relevant because of their power. think about it...

It's supposed to be a war. PEOPLE die in wars. Not fodder. Fodders die everyday.

 

[iKaras]

Yeah, but what character's death would help the plot move forward at this point and what would be the meaning? I can't think of any relevant character, other than Obito....

Exactly its too late now and thats the point. The most vanilla war ive ever read. It looks like a high school reunion party compared to AoT.

 

[awesomeseimei]

Yeah, but what character's death would help the plot move forward at this point and what would be the meaning? I can't think of any relevant character, other than Obito....

At this point yeah, the story is near its end and if any characters die now it will simply mean they won't be around for an epilogue. But in general deaths can do good to the story.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

All Naruto characters are fictional literary tools and if they have nothing more to contribute to the main direction of the story (which kakashi and guy do NOT) they are disposable.

Killing characters makes them more fondly remembered and usually creates very memorable, sad and awesome moments. Killing characters like Killer Bee, Guy and Mifune would pull at the heartstrings and actually make you feel in this manga as well as crazily raising the tension. Guy and Kakashi should've sacrificed themselves and had amazing endings back in the Obito arc, against an enemy they knew- making the Kakashi/Obito dynamic even more intense and characters like Killer Bee should die in this arc with Madara in an epic finale before the 8 tails is taken with occasional deaths (mifune, darui, sai) also happening on and off-screen.

Neji's death almost did this but it was too insignificant and random to leave a lasting impression, death should've been on the table in every chapter in the last two arcs, weaker characters that we know and love have been on the same arena as Obito, the God Tree and Madara Uchiha, having them all be A-okay is disappointing AND unrealistic, I assure you we'd all be much more pumped for every chapter if we were all fearing on who might or might not be taken out next. Instead we have a whole catalogue of characters hanging around doing nothing.

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That's what anime like AOT, Full metal Alchemist and Death Note understand: death is used as a literary tool and when it happens it has a HUGE impact on the audience. It's the ultimate character arc ender and it's just satisfying. Kisame, Jiraiya Neji and Konan to name a few are fondly remembered because they died fighting for what they believed in and had amazing endings.

That's why death is so essential and needed in this finale, Kakashi really doesn't belong to me and it's awkward, like bringing Hinata back after she sacrificed herself for Naruto- it dampens the story, but just because he's your favourite doesn't make him invincible.​