Why senjus were able to keep up with the most powerful clan
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SenseiSama
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whiteboy2345
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Manga doesn't disagree, Kurama can exist without Naruto because it's a separate entity.
Rikudou Tobi
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He really didn't do anything but display his fear for the Uchiha by taking rash decisions. In the end one of his closet subordinates besides is an Uchiha and he tried to save Sasuke's life.
Though is fighting style is kind of cowardly though.
Well no he didn't, it's to increase his numbers because that's what the senju clan is all about. It still doesn't counter the sharingan because even Madara was able to see Hashirama's wood clone and tobi, itachi, and sasuke all the same. In fact they copied shadow doppelganger jutsu so it's not a counter.
The only time they get beat by a clone is when they run out of chakra to use their sharingan, so they fall for the clone feint like Madara did.
Too bad it never did.
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Tobirama never invented sensing and one on one sensing is useless against an Uchiha. Just ask Madara.
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Wrong. Senjus have life force and source like the manga specifically stated, so don't give all of senju skills to uzamaki's and call it their own. Senjus came first.
Senjus did not invent ninjutsu to counter sharingan as debunked from up top. Uchihas copied shadow dopplerganger and suiton so your argument is invalid.
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Since when was it stated the senju were all about numbers?
One uchiha using suiton doesn't disprove him at all.
Shame that madara in a completely different league to any uchiha in his era.
Simply because Madara can do it, doesn't mean the other members could.
How is that debunked?
The only uchiha to copy shadow clones back in that era was Madara and the only uchiha to show suiton was Itachi who has nothing to do with the Uchiha vs Senju war era.
Your mistake is trying to compare geniuses on Madara/Itachi/Sasuke's level to nameless uchiha and featless back during madara's era.
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Since the starter of that clan is Ashura who believes cooperation of others is key and was the strength to his success.
And one senju using suiton doesn't prove his point at all. I can clearly see you're bias here.
Yet Izuna is on his level?
Tobi did and Itachi did it so you can stop right there. The whole point about sensing is for the person to be kneading their chakra, which Tobirama wasn't. So Madara in particular didn't do anything special, it just shows that being a sensor is not a valid counter.
So just stop replying from here and check your bias.
It is debunked and everything else you're saying is a speculation. You don't know if any of the other Uchihas copied shadow clone, and you don't know if any other Uchiha besides Itachi copied suiton. Even Kakashi who is not an Uchiha copied suiton using Uchiha power.
So these shinobi's are not dolts, every Uchiha we've seen is a genius because they are a genius clan. Like Jiraiya said you need a high level intellect to be proficient in high level genjutsu which the Uchiha clan are gifted with that intellect.
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salamander uchiha
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Nice BS fic the Senju had all 3. The fodder maki had lifeforce only whoopy they live lin lives.
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Hashirama's is leagues above fodder Ashura he was and is an anomaly. He was prety much the jyubi's body. It was Ashura who was weaker than Indra but Hashirama was alway equal if not stronger than Madara.
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Where does it say they had life force ? I'm waiting
Oh right they were never known for it, that was Uzumaki only *cough*red hair*cough*
whiteboy2345
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Manga feats and facts show that Hashirama carried his clan. Before his birth, the clans were equal. That's like Obito, Itachi, and Sasuke being born along with Madara back then and overcoming the Senju, and then I talk about how the Uchiha are immediately stronger by default.This thread failed from the title alone, Senju were the most powerful between the two.
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#Fact
One member can't speak for the entire group.
salamander uchiha
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Ashura inherited it therefore his descendants the Senju inherited it cough cough Hashirama as an example. Fodderato aren't considered direct and neither was it stated they inherited the lifeforce of the sage. Cough cough.Where does it say they had life force ? I'm waiting
Oh right they were never known for it, that was Uzumaki only *cough*red hair*cough*
Anyway foddermaki whoopy they have longevity hardly a feat to be proud of becoming old and saggy. Also if you can provide the scan which says the fodderato inherited lifeforce it would be helpful.
I doubt that. Ashura had of six paths chakra, something Hashirama didnt, and was equal with Madara ever since the beginning, where Naruto was always behind, and even needed Kyuubi to match Sasu
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salamander uchiha
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Ashura didn't have spsm it was given to him by the sage there was no way for him to match indra. Besides the beasts didn't recognise Ashura whatsoever or say Naruto is like him. So the only likely outcome is the sage gave it to him. And besides the sage pretty much confirms he gave Ashura a power. Anyway Hashirama is naturally talented and without 6psm if he had that then he'd be near unstoppable.
Ashura was given the title of the leader of ninshuu, that is the only thing Hagoromo gave to Ashura. Indra like a spoiled child (like every Uchiha) became as salty as Uchiha fans and he started to attack his little brother Ashura that easily controlled every attacks of that saltier and saltier Uchiha ancestor.
salamander uchiha
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Leave your bs fic at the door. The sage gave Ashura power and when he gave Sasuke and Naruto power he said this time I'm giving both of you power. This is while knowing what Sasuke was planning. Anyway Ashura was and is fodder. The only ones who are salty are Ashura fans their denial is strong and their comprehension skills are weak. Even the current t Ashura incarnate relies on the power and he vs another for help.