[Theory] Why Sasuke is Upgrading to the Elder Son's Eyes

[Snow eYe]

Sasuke's about to get the Elder's eyes and not the Rinnegan these are a few reason why I know this.

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The older brother was born with the "eyes" of the Sage of the Six Paths. It is believed that his "eyes" either laid the foundation for or mutated into the other two major dōjutsu in the ninja world: the Byakugan and the Sharingan.

Byakugan might have a connection with the new Dojutsu!

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The Sage's son was obviously the purest Uchiha descendent and he had different eyes that haven't been revealed, this is a loose end that needs to be clarified. what better time for that than now?

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If Madara was able to obtain the Sage's eyes (Rinnegan = Senju + Uchiha) then why would it not be possible for an Uchiha to obtain the Son's eyes (?????gan = Uchiha)?
Now I know some of you might be saying "Oh well Sasuke has Senju DNA now so he's getting Rinnegan"

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Madara said that he transplanted Senju cells into his wound which is exactly what Kabuto is doing to Sasuke and Madara didn't get the Rinnegan until he was at the end of his lifespan. Although you could say Kabuto is putting Modified Hashirama cells different to what Madara transplanted to himself. How can Sasuke get the Rinnegan instantly and Madara Uchiha have to wait his entire life? He wont, Obito didn't either unless those modified kabuto cells make a difference and speed up the Rinnegan for Sasuke but wouldn't that just be an "ass pull" ?

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There would be a true plot hole if Sasuke was to get the Rinnegan when theres a totally new/fresh option for Kishi to take and surprise us with, it would add more depth into the Sharingan and unlock something unknown. Plus I think the Rinnegan would ruin Sasuke's look it just wouldn't look right, but thats just me!

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Madara said something about nurturing a new eye. Rinnegan isn't new now is it? What could he be talking about... but then again that might mean "new rinnegan"

Kishi said when he thinks of Naruto he thinks of Sasuke and builds them up to be equals. Which is foreshadowed by critically injuring both of them and now they are both being revived at the same time.

Question: What is your feeling towards Sasuke now that he has gone through drastic change throughout the series?

Kishi Answer: Sasuke is always in the corner of my mind. Naruto and Sasuke progress as a pair. So when I write about Naruto, I always have to think about Sasuke. They are on opposite sides of the spectrum, like yin and yang.

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Just think about it Naruto represents the Younger Son(Senju Ancestor) while Sasuke represents the Elder Son, Sasuke is older than Naruto so it fits in perfectly. Sasuke became Rogue in search of Strength and Naruto wants Peace. This link has to mean something it can't just be unintentional.
They symbolize their ancient ancestors more than the actual Sage himself.

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You can't blame the Sage and say he failed. He did not fail, he did what he could do. The people at fault are the ones he entrusted. THEY were the start of the world's problems now Sasuke and Naruto's duty is to put an end to it.

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This has been Foreshadowed by Tobi. The Younger Son believed in Love (Naruto) and the Elder Son believed in Strength (Sasuke) they inherited these traits.

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This also shows how Sasuke and Naruto are in separate sides of the spectrum yet so equal (Yin and Yang)

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Sasuke MUST come back with a power up, we already 'know' what Naruto is getting after Obito stole a portion of the One-Tails/8-Tails Chakra (Obito is smart he wouldn't do that for no reason) and now Sasuke will have Senju DNA it would be perfect to upgrade his EMS and it would make total sense to finally see the Elder's Mini Rinnegan Right now Naruto would be getting a better powerup if Sasuke was just to get Senju DNA, a new look for naruto is coming and this has to be followed up by Sasuke. Im sure Sasuke's upcoming power up will be just as epic as Naruto's, that is if he gets a new eye!

Some further Explanations and Theories
Now if Sasuke was to get this new Dojutsu this late in the manga we would need some info as to how...
ALSO: Sharingan and Byakugan originated from the Elder Son although we haven't had any confirmed connections between them (that I know of) this might have something to do with this new dojutsu.

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Im just going to shoot some guesses relating to this. Although some might give more reason to Sasuke getting the Rinnegan instead and some might be waaay off from true
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☻ Its safe to assume that the Sage's sons were both Sages as well, considering they inherited a god's power.
☻ Sasuke getting Sage Mode could possibly trigger Elders Eyes(= Uchiha + Byakugan + EMS)
☻ Sasuke will get some sort of Sage Mode to fight Madara without the need of Juugo or Naruto. This would make up for not getting the Rinnegan, and MIGHT also explain the markings that the Elder Son has around his eyes and forehead similar to Naruto's SageMode.
☻ Madara did not have Sage mode before death. Until Kabuto modified his body to use Hashi's Jutsu and Madara absorbed Hashi's chakra when he pierced him with the black robs.
☻ Madara had the Rinnegan when he was Edo in his prime, but how was he Revived young with a Rinnegan and not old? Why did Sarutobi come back old then, and not as the God of Shinobi? Kabuto's modified cells might have something to do with that. Who knows :|
☻ Elders Eyes = Uchiha + Sage Mode + EMS.
☻ Orochimaru wanted Sasuke's body and knew that its compatible with Sage Mode, through the cursed seal.
☻ We also don't know what type of Jutsu Hashirama gave Sasuke before going down and what that "strange" feeling he got was this might also have something to do with it.
☻ Hashirama also mentioned Izuna to Sasuke and STILL even at this point Hashirama thinks Madara can change without violence which would be RIDICULOUS to say if it wasn't foreshadowing something.
☻^ Those two will for sure come into play at some point and should benefit Sasuke.

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Hope you enjoyed my theory! Leave a thank/like if its not too much trouble Ill leave you with this pic I photoshopped!

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[AShinyPlatypus]

I agree that a new dojutsu for Sasuke would be better than giving him the Rinnegan, however I think the parallel between Naruto and Rikudou Sennin is stronger than the one between Naruto and younger son. Also, I'm not at all convinced that Sasuke is having Senju DNA implanted in him, Kabuto just mentioned his studies of Hashirama's cells, not that he was implanting them. Just what I think, good theory though.

 

[MySusanooIsPurple]

I hope that he gets those eyes. We've seen the rinnegan too much time for something new

 

[dark legion]

I don't know why u all make this so complicated ... It says " Elder son was gifted with Sage's Eyes: and Sage's eyes were rinnegan > Elder son -rinnegan >>>>>> this way Sasuke will get rinnegan ... (BTW: don't base to much in that picture, it's not safe to give definitions basing on that , I prefer to base on Words) :x3:

 

[AShinyPlatypus]

I don't know why u all make this so complicated ... It says " Elder son was gifted with Sage's Eyes: and Sage's eyes were rinnegan > Elder son -rinnegan >>>>>> this way Sasuke will get rinnegan ... (BTW: don't base to much in that picture, it's not safe to give definitions basing on that , I prefer to base on Words) :x3:

I don't think Kishi would bother drawing distinctly different eyes if they weren't actually different. Eyes matter in Naruto.

 

[Shura]

I and Katsura used to think this as well. There's a possibility, yes, but I'm starting to doubt that Kishi will be original with this one. I feel like he'll just give him the same old Rin'negan. Nice thread though.

 

[Uchihareborn207]

the painting around the eyes and in his forehead is also part of the doujutsu

 

[a banned cartoon]

The elder son did not have a different type of eye he had the sharingan. Kishi only drew his eyes spiraling to represent the sharingan's hypnotizing effects in a feudal japan folk art type of way.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

After he survived battle with Hashirama he got Senju cells and in near death situation (end of lifespan) he got Rinnegan.
Sasuke now have Senju cells and currently is in near death situation. Indicates that he will get rinnegan.

 

[Uchihareborn207]

The elder son did not have a different type of eye he had the sharingan. Kishi only drew his eyes spiraling to represent the sharingan's hypnotizing effects in a feudal japan folk art type of way.

what a retarded explanation:eww:

 

[Snow eYe]

I agree that a new dojutsu for Sasuke would be better than giving him the Rinnegan, however I think the parallel between Naruto and Rikudou Sennin is stronger than the one between Naruto and younger son. Also, I'm not at all convinced that Sasuke is having Senju DNA implanted in him, Kabuto just mentioned his studies of Hashirama's cells, not that he was implanting them. Just what I think, good theory though.

Kabuto is transplanting Hashirama's cells into Sasuke. its pretty clear in the manga but if you're right about that then theres more reason for him to get the Elder's eyes since he would have no Senju DNA to unlock the Rinnegan

I hope that he gets those eyes. We've seen the rinnegan too much time for something new

Agreed Rinnegan is too mainstream and this is a loose end that hasn't been talked about

I don't know why u all make this so complicated ... It says " Elder son was gifted with Sage's Eyes: and Sage's eyes were rinnegan > Elder son -rinnegan >>>>>> this way Sasuke will get rinnegan ... (BTW: don't base to much in that picture, it's not safe to give definitions basing on that , I prefer to base on Words) :x3:

You're absolutely right about that, I was actually going to include that in my thread but I couldn't find it Zzz but the pictures of the Son's were both in the manga and anime therefore it can't be a mistake its pretty clear it was done on purpose. We've been told that you need both Senju and Uchiha to get the Rinnegan (obviously) and the sons branch off into those two families so the Elder Son wouldn't have a Rinnegan without the Younger brother's body (Senju). So my theory is that the Sage didn't pass down his eyes to the Son but a unique powerful maxed out version that later got washed down to the Sharingan. To me this adds up perfectly, how could the Elder Son have a Rinnegan if you need Senju DNA? they wouldn't be Uchihas if that was the case but a hybrid mix or something

 

[AShinyPlatypus]

The elder son did not have a different type of eye he had the sharingan. Kishi only drew his eyes spiraling to represent the sharingan's hypnotizing effects in a feudal japan folk art type of way.

Link to an interview where he says that?

 

[a banned cartoon]

what a retarded explanation:eww:

That's not retarded. Look at the art style. It's detailed very little. You're looking too deep into it. Trying to come up with some ridiculous theory. Spirals represent hypnotization. The sharingan's genjustsu's are hypnotizing, and put people in trances. This is what Kishi is representing in this picture, without having to use words.

Don't go calling somebody else's theories retarded just because you disagree with them. 90% of my theories have been right thus far.

 

[Angelic.]

black zetsu said the sage awoke the rinnegan. im hoping for e.s.e too

why would the elder son have rinne if he was pure uchiha no senju??

 

[ANiMUS]

Naruto is getting a new bijuu cloak, Sasuke is getting rinnengan and probably senjutsu, it would be nice if this led to a stronger version of the rinnengan, but at the very least Sasuke will get Rinnengan.

 

[AShinyPlatypus]

That's not retarded. Look at the art style. It's detailed very little. You're looking too deep into it. Trying to come up with some ridiculous theory. Spirals represent hypnotization. The sharingan's genjustsu's are hypnotizing, and put people in trances. This is what Kishi is representing in this picture, without having to use words.

Don't go calling somebody else's theories retarded just because you disagree with them. 90% of my theories have been right thus far.

Then by your own admission, you're wrong 10% of the time. In a series where the eyes play such a big role, I don't see any real reason for him to put a distinct design in. Of course, Kishi could just be trolling.

 

[Tui]

I don't know why u all make this so complicated ... It says " Elder son was gifted with Sage's Eyes: and Sage's eyes were rinnegan > Elder son -rinnegan >>>>>> this way Sasuke will get rinnegan ... (BTW: don't base to much in that picture, it's not safe to give definitions basing on that , I prefer to base on Words) :x3:

If the elder son got the rinnegan when why is senju dna required for a Uchiha to unlock it?

 

[IamtheGodofUchihaforever]

Kabuto is transplanting Hashirama's cells into Sasuke. its pretty clear in the manga but if you're right about that then theres more reason for him to get the Elder's eyes since he would have no Senju DNA to unlock the Rinnegan



Agreed Rinnegan is too mainstream and this is a loose end that hasn't been talked about



You're absolutely right about that, I was actually going to include that in my thread but I couldn't find it Zzz but the pictures of the Son's were both in the manga and anime therefore it can't be a mistake its pretty clear it was done on purpose. We've been told that you need both Senju and Uchiha to get the Rinnegan (obviously) and the sons branch off into those two families so the Elder Son wouldn't have a Rinnegan without the Younger brother's body (Senju). So my theory is that the Sage didn't pass down his eyes to the Son but a unique powerful maxed out version that later got washed down to the Sharingan. To me this adds up perfectly, how could the Elder Son have a Rinnegan if you need Senju DNA? they wouldn't be Uchihas if that was the case but a hybrid mix or something

They're brothers.... Lol

 

[lucky3able]

So that means that sasukes new doujutsu Will still not be as powerful as the rinnegan.well it'll be cool though if it happened that way sasuke can start up his own clan with a new type of eyse and shit and since naruto will have the sages body but nit the eyes(unless obito transplants his ) sasuke could fill in and they can pull out a goku and vegeta fusion (could happen hahaha)

 

[rollin]

I used to think that the older sons eyes were the first ems because he didn't inherit the sages physical energies only his spiritual energies and when an ems gets the physical energies it changes to the rinnegan but I think it's possible there could be another doujutsu now since it seems sasuke might get a power up