Why sasuke is the weakest of the demi-god tier.

[TrollKing]

Wrong

Kaguya hago and JJ jubidara <<<<<< mcnj


Kishi already stated sasuke's true power of his eyes can be on par with mcnj

Sasuke > everybody

 

[Grades N Grabba]

sasuke with bijuu's is on par with naruto. with out them he gets beaten.

- You're stating your opinion and i'm not.

- Kishi said Sasuke 2 Eyes = Naruto.

 

[King Of Pop]

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VS HAGOROMO, Although hagoromo was never really shown fighting in the series its safe to assume he could beat sasuke 1v1, since after all sasuke has his powers due to him.

not perfect soosano though. he had that before hagoromo and the latter does not possess it as he wasnt born with the sharingan. but its irrelevant so moving on

VS INFINITE TSUKUYOMI MADARA. lets get this clear by infinite tsukuyomi madara, i mean madara with rinne sharingan and double rinnegan. not an incomplete madara with 1 eye and 1 limbo. inb4 hardcore sasuke fans post irrelevant scans.

since you used bijju ps in your description am just gonna use it here and ignore what you said about sasuke being without the bijju.

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Infinite tsukuyomi madara has, 6 paths rinnegan powered by the juubi, 4 limbo clones, 10 TSB's, RSM, Rinne sharingan,Perfect Susano, Regeneration and Mokuton.

6 paths cancels six paths, limbo is irrelevant near ps so dont mention it so are tsbs because they arent negating sasukes attacks so their irrelevant as well. his rinne sharingan only lets him use IT, he has zero access to kaguyas jutsus as db said shes the only one capable of using them so its not much of a help to madara. mokuton is irrelevant as ps chops them up and madara doesnt have rsm, thats fanfic. rsm is different from ten tails coffin seal mode which is what madara has.

Madara clearly has the advantage and sasuke loses low-mid difficulty here's why :

with bijju ps? ridiculous, he doensnt lose low mid dif.

After madara's boost with his 2nd rinnegan, sasuke was no longer able to blitz him, not even along side RSM naruto
and distraction from Sakura.

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except sasuke wasnt attempting to bliz him as he didnt use amenotejikara so moot point.

Any fire style/enton gets petra'd, Sasuke is unable to Ameno blitz due to the following reasons.

1. madara is constantly surrounded by Limbos

2. Madara can use TSB and can Cover himself

3. If madara limbos are overlapping with him at the time, he can easily Limbo swap and avoid all damage.

as shown here

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Madara's counter to Sasuke's core victim CT :

now we all know sasuke can make the victim the core of his CT as shown here

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There's a big flaw to this and a lot of sasuke fans don't seem to realize this, if the opponent is strong enough he can easily break free from the CT

as shown here

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which is why Sasuke clearly put the bijuu's in genjutsu and immobilized the bijuu's

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if sasuke makes madara and his limbos cores of His CTs, madara can easily send his limbos back inside him, destroy all incoming rocks with a raiton and send his TSBs to deal with sasuke and or also deal with incoming rocks.

yup, bps is why sasuke contends with him and not any of these.

Sasuke Perfect susano Feats :

able to cut meteors that dwarfed mountains with ease

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note that this was done with an inferior soosano

Chidori

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same as above. his biiju ps chidori would be well above this.

Theres a couple ways madara can easily handle sasuke's PS.

1. Mokuton

- Wood Release: Advent of a World of Flowering Trees

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"The pollen produced by these flowers is then released into the atmosphere and when inhaled, renders any afflicted target unconscious. "

Now imagine this technique boosted by the juubi's powers, its scale would be gigantic, PS or not if sasuke inhales this he is going down.

ridiculous. oonoki countered that and freed the kages and they flew away. that poses zero threat to sasuke as he can easily fly away from its range, then afterwards multiple senbons(equal to bijju damas) destroys them and gets rid of the pollens

being boosted by jjubis power would only increase the scale but sasukes firepower chops it down with ease. or he flies away or ameno away from there so inhaling it is not happening

as seen in the manga the user can have the branch restrain any target(s).

no branch is restraining ps.

2. Quad juubi TBB/Chibaku tensei Combo

As seen in the manga, Sasuke can easily deal with the meteors one at a time He simply doesn't have the destructive power to finish off all the meteors at once like Naruto does. IF madara were to simultaneously Use a chibaku tensei of the same scale he did here

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and power up a quad juubi dama aiming at sasuke, sasuke would either get crushed by the meteors, or blasted by the juubi damas, or he can waste an immense amount of chakra and run off to another dimension, which is basically a victory towards madara anyway.

that was an inferior ps. with bijju ps, metoers are chopped down with ease or run through with bps chidori. madara has to summon the tree for quad juubi tbb, the moment he does that, sasuke easily teleports to the tree location and cuts them down before madara can prep it.

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Madara has his own Perfect Susano.

- madara was shown using susano with no eyes. if you going to try to argue a full power 3 eyed madara can't use PS please leave and don't bother because I am just going to ignore you.

and this is the actual reason why madara would probably win. it depends on the power of his perfect soosano and how it exceeds sasukes with the bijjus.

The juubi has unmeasurable Natural energy as shown and explained here :

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ok.

Now with enough natural energy Naruto was able to counter indra's arrow which sasuke can't even use in this scenario since he doesn't have the bijuu's

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with enough NE plus complete half kurama plus some protions of the bijjus chakra. he poured all he had into those two attacks.

Madara can easily power up his perfect susano with natural energy from the juubi and simply stomp sasuke's REGULAR perfect susano.

it doesnt work like that, he would have to gather it somewhat and nothing suggests sasuke would give him time. without his ps madara gets blized like narutos kurama avatar clone and eats indras arrow before he can recover.

like i said, madara winning only depends on how much is ps would be logically stronger than sasukes bps. feat wise though he gets rofl stomped. but thoretical wise, he should win depending on the bold.

i dont see sasuke handling madara's Perfect susano, + limbo clones + TSB + Mokuton at the same time.

the bold are non factor. the only threat there is madaras hypothetical ps and how strong it would be.

VS RSM NARUTO this one also doesn't need a lot of explanation on why sasuke loses as you can take a look at VOTE 2 for yourself.

I hate to say it, but sasuke without bijuu's is no match for RSM naruto, who has access to all of the bijuu's chakra. this would be a stomp.

if you are going to call him the weakest then you should take him at full power and not without. he has access to the bijjus at full power.

RSM naruto feats are insanely overpowered

Naruto's shadow clone was shown to be more durable than sasuke PS.

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getting passed kaguya's chakra palms when the same technique completely fodderized sasuke PS.

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RSM naruto was also shown blitzing kaguya when sasuke couldn't even do so with ameno

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irrelevant has rsm naruto's full power in the manga overall does not best sasukes. having better feats against kaguya means nothing as sasuke got much stronger after that.

Not only does naruto have more speed and durability, he also completely shits on sasuke in terms of raw destructive power

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not if sasuke has access to bijju ps.

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s I stated before in the madara section, all it took naruto to deal with sasuke with the bijuu's was gathering natural energy. if naruto were to do the same against a sasuke who has no access to the bijuu's it would be a complete stomp.

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naruto had some portions of the bijjus chakra himself including half kurama. so no NE is not the only reason.

ok thats all, thanks for reading for those who did, and feel free to disagree, and remember this is sasuke with out the bijuu's.

without the bijjus then yes. but even then adult sasukes true abilities are hyped to be on par with naruto and this is him without the bijjus.

 

[bowflex]

not perfect soosano though. he had that before hagoromo and the latter does not possess it as he wasnt born with the sharingan. but its irrelevant so moving on


since you used bijju ps in your description am just gonna use it here and ignore what you said about sasuke being without the bijju.

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6 paths cancels six paths, limbo is irrelevant near ps so dont mention it so are tsbs because they arent negating sasukes attacks so their irrelevant as well. his rinne sharingan only lets him use IT, he has zero access to kaguyas jutsus as db said shes the only one capable of using them so its not much of a help to madara. mokuton is irrelevant as ps chops them up and madara doesnt have rsm, thats fanfic. rsm is different from ten tails coffin seal mode which is what madara has.


with bijju ps? ridiculous, he doensnt lose low mid dif.


except sasuke wasnt attempting to bliz him as he didnt use amenotejikara so moot point.


yup, bps is why sasuke contends with him and not any of these.


note that this was done with an inferior soosano

same as above. his biiju ps chidori would be well above this.


ridiculous. oonoki countered that and freed the kages and they flew away. that poses zero threat to sasuke as he can easily fly away from its range, then afterwards multiple senbons(equal to bijju damas) destroys them and gets rid of the pollens

being boosted by jjubis power would only increase the scale but sasukes firepower chops it down with ease. or he flies away or ameno away from there so inhaling it is not happening



no branch is restraining ps.


that was an inferior ps. with bijju ps, metoers are chopped down with ease or run through with bps chidori. madara has to summon the tree for quad juubi tbb, the moment he does that, sasuke easily teleports to the tree location and cuts them down before madara can prep it.


and this is the actual reason why madara would probably win. it depends on the power of his perfect soosano and how it exceeds sasukes with the bijjus.


ok.


with enough NE plus complete half kurama plus some protions of the bijjus chakra. he poured all he had into those two attacks.


it doesnt work like that, he would have to gather it somewhat and nothing suggests sasuke would give him time. without his ps madara gets blized like narutos kurama avatar clone and eats indras arrow before he can recover.

like i said, madara winning only depends on how much is ps would be logically stronger than sasukes bps. feat wise though he gets rofl stomped. but thoretical wise, he should win depending on the bold.


the bold are non factor. the only threat there is madaras hypothetical ps and how strong it would be.


if you are going to call him the weakest then you should take him at full power and not without. he has access to the bijjus at full power.


irrelevant has rsm naruto's full power in the manga overall does not best sasukes. having better feats against kaguya means nothing as sasuke got much stronger after that.


not if sasuke has access to bijju ps.

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naruto had some portions of the bijjus chakra himself including half kurama. so no NE is not the only reason.



without the bijjus then yes. but even then adult sasukes true abilities are hyped to be on par with naruto and this is him without the bijjus.

lol thats all i have to say. u adding bijuu PS when i clearly said sasuke with no bijuu's thats not his power. he used it in vote 2 and was only on par with naruto.

edo madara's advent flower world covered an entire battle field. boosted by juubi who knows how big it will be, and why can't mokuton catch PS and hold it down? u are underestimating the juubi's powers. a single mokuton from jj madara was able to cover the entire earth, you can already have a glimpse on how powerful madara attacks are boosted by the juubi. give sasuke bijuu's and nothing changes, madara has what sasuke has plus more.

oonoki's jinton turns shit in to dust, sasuke's senpon is simply an explosion, which is not bigger than an entire battle field. again we got a lil glimpse of madara's jutsus powered by the juubi, sasuke would be completely overwhelmed by a juubi powered Wood Release: Advent of a World of Flowering Trees, sasuke has no info on it, and will literally breathe in pullen and get negged. if he try's to fly up its so many ways madara can knock him back down in to the jutsu. madara's arsenal is so much bigger than sasuke's and he has regeneration, what can sasuke honestly do? even with bijuu's?

but yeah madara has :

more bijuu chakra than sasuke did in vote 2.

and he has way more natural energy than naruto gathered in vote 2.

bijuu susano gets stomped easily.

rinne sharingan counters ameno easily. so does limbo. as seen in the manga.


dont even know why i bothered, because you used zero manga facts or scans to try to counter me, you are obviously biased towards sasuke. attempting to say sasuke might beat hagoromo because of PS.

lmaoo i laughed so much i liked your post and gave you rep.


you are entitled to your opinion though, and im glad somebody tried to counter OP.

 

[Ging]

Sasuke will always be the weakest of the demi god tier shinobis.

Nice thread with factual proof

Thumps up for you

 

[Megax Rocker7]

Just give sasuke his sword and he would molest naruto.

I agree with the others tho.

 

[King Of Pop]

=bowflex;19368557]lol thats all i have to say. u adding bijuu PS when i clearly said sasuke with no bijuu's thats not his power. he used it in vote 2 and was only on par with naruto.

its his power, its him at full strength regardless of how he got it.

edo madara's advent flower world covered an entire battle field. boosted by juubi who knows how big it will be, and why can't mokuton catch PS and hold it down? u are underestimating the juubi's powers. a single mokuton from jj madara was able to cover the entire earth, you can already have a glimpse on how powerful madara attacks are boosted by the juubi. give sasuke bijuu's and nothing changes, madara has what sasuke has plus more.

like i said, mokuton is fodder near the might of bijju ps regardless of whether its boosted by juubi or not. it cannot hold ps down as its not more powerful than those ct satellite which sasukes normal ps was casually chopping down. with senbons, chidori and ps slashes, mokuton is cut down with utmost ease so stop mentioning it.

oonoki's jinton turns shit in to dust, sasuke's senpon is simply an explosion, which is not bigger than an entire battle field. again we got a lil glimpse of madara's jutsus powered by the juubi, sasuke would be completely overwhelmed by a juubi powered Wood Release: Advent of a World of Flowering Trees, sasuke has no info on it, and will literally breathe in pullen and get negged. if he try's to fly up its so many ways madara can knock him back down in to the jutsu. madara's arsenal is so much bigger than sasuke's and he has regeneration, what can sasuke honestly do? even with bijuu's?

whether or not oonoki turns things to dust does not change the fact that the mokuton hosting the pollens can be destroyed with chidori senbon, especially multiple of them. and he can easily fly away from the aoe from the aoe as i stated. he does not need info as he can easily figure it out once he sees the trees. madara knock him down with what? lmao stop, you are sounding like a fanboy saying a jutsu oonoki counetered would neg sasuke. sure with the juubi boost it would be larger than edo madaras but sasukes firepower is on a completely different level to oonoki so it cancels out.

but yeah madara has :

more bijuu chakra than sasuke did in vote 2.

irrelevant.

and he has way more natural energy than naruto gathered in vote 2.

when you can prove madara can gather such an amount when sasuke can easily bliz him with bps ameno then you can talk.

bijuu susano gets stomped easily.

fanboy smh.

rinne sharingan counters ameno easily. so does limbo. as seen in the manga.

too bad ameno is not the reason sasuke contends with him as ive stated.

dont even know why i bothered, because you used zero manga facts or scans to try to counter me, you are obviously biased towards sasuke. attempting to say sasuke might beat hagoromo because of PS.

so now you blind or you are trolling? show me where i attempted to say sasuke can beat hags. your clown ass stated sasukes powers are solely due to him and i corrected it by saying he had ps before hagoromo and the latter doesnt. thats all i said.

lmaoo i laughed so much i liked your post and gave you rep.

not sure i can take you seriously right now.

you are entitled to your opinion though, and im glad somebody tried to counter OP.

sure.

 

[bowflex]

its his power, its him at full strength regardless of how he got it.


like i said, mokuton is fodder near the might of bijju ps regardless of whether its boosted by juubi or not. it cannot hold ps down as its not more powerful than those ct satellite which sasukes normal ps was casually chopping down. with senbons, chidori and ps slashes, mokuton is cut down with utmost ease so stop mentioning it.


whether or not oonoki turns things to dust does not change the fact that the mokuton hosting the pollens can be destroyed with chidori senbon, especially multiple of them. and he can easily fly away from the aoe from the aoe as i stated. he does not need info as he can easily figure it out once he sees the trees. madara knock him down with what? lmao stop, you are sounding like a fanboy saying a jutsu oonoki counetered would neg sasuke. sure with the juubi boost it would be larger than edo madaras but sasukes firepower is on a completely different level to oonoki so it cancels out.


irrelevant.


when you can prove madara can gather such an amount when sasuke can easily bliz him with bps ameno then you can talk.


fanboy smh.


too bad ameno is not the reason sasuke contends with him as ive stated.



so now you blind or you are trolling? show me where i attempted to say sasuke can beat hags. your clown ass stated sasukes powers are solely due to him and i corrected it by saying he had ps before hagoromo and the latter doesnt. thats all i said.


not sure i can take you seriously right now.



sure.

everything you posted is assumption, saying bijuu ps cuts this and that with easy, blows this and that. what you think after madara does his advent of flowering tree's he's going to stand there? he has his own ps, limbo and TSB, sasuke try's to fly away he's getting knocked down, what sasuke can do in that situation is ameno as far away as possible, but he can only ameno certain amount of times before his rinnegan goes in cool down mode. not only does sasuke have a lot more disadvantages, madara's arsenal is way stronger.

you have to agree, logically madara would stomp bijuu PS.

bijuu PS is perfect susano plus chakra from the 9 tail beast correct?

madara has PS, chakra from the juubi which is more than all 9 tail beast, since the juubi is an entity made of the bijuu, not only that, its an entity made from natural energy his "bijuu PS" should be x10 stronger off natural energy alone which sasuke does not have.

not only that, Madara has access to the chakra of the infinite tsukuyomi victims, which would be an extra power up for his moves on top of the juubi.

his defence is impeccable due to PS, limbo and TSB.

Bijuu sasuke loses mid-high diff to infinite tsukuyomi madara. of course thats my opinion based off what the manga/DB has stated. you can always disagree like ive said already.

 

[Ace95]

Which hagoromo are you referencing in your thread normal Hagoromo or juubi jinchuuriki Hagoromo or both?

 

[Netflix and Chill]

I don't think you know who you just came for.

Sasukebase is about to dismantle you.

This is a no flex zone, they know better.

Ot: undeniable thread

 

[ComplexCity]

Not ignoring what you posted in the thread but most of this is what happened at Vote 2 when Sasuke had lil rinne experience while NAruto had power ups handed to him by bijuu pals. Just saying Sasuke with more rinne experience would pull ahead of most of this list. Especially considering the facts Kishi said Sasuke would surpass MAdara one day and matches NAruto at full strength.

This guy :lol

 

[bowflex]

This is a no flex zone, they know better.

Ot: undeniable thread

This guy :lol

lmao can we say Sasuke base got solo'd?

Which hagoromo are you referencing in your thread normal Hagoromo or juubi jinchuuriki Hagoromo or both?

doesn't matter sasuke can't take on any form of hagoromo

 

[SenseiSama]

your still nitpicking at lower versions of Naruto that didn't fare well against 6 paths techniques, the same couldn't be said with RSM Naruto.
Nonetheless Naruto and much to your disbelief Sasuke both get beaten by JJ Madara. Anything beyond that is which one could last longer against him neither one is going to beat him and neither surpassed him.

Naruto only needs to implant Sasuke's original Mangekyo, awaken Rinnegan and he's the strongest.

 

[Yata Mirror]

who am I to deny these manga facts..
Ty and Lord Seventh solos

 

[Solo]

It's funny because all of those people are either dead, or sealed away. While Sasuke still out there soloing.

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[ComplexCity]

It's funny because all of those people are either dead, or sealed away. While Sasuke still out there soloing.

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Welp, Sasuke can't beat JJ Madara or Kaguya so

 

[Solo]

Welp, Sasuke can't beat JJ Madara or Kaguya so

Chibaku Tensei seals. GG.

 

[ComplexCity]

Chibaku Tensei seals. GG.

Like he did the first when he got fodderized by Kaguya right? :lol

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Not sure whether I agree that Sasuke is weaker than Naruto when Kishi clearly states that both of them are equal term but I understand where you're going with by pointing out that Sasuke with 9 bijuu are on Par with Naruto so I'm gonna applaud your effort with your great detail explanation with the supportive manga scan.

 

[TrollKing]

Not sure whether I agree that Sasuke is weaker than Naruto when Kishi clearly states that both of them are equal term but I understand where you're going with by pointing out that Sasuke with 9 bijuu are on Par with Naruto so I'm gonna applaud your effort with your great detail explanation with the supportive manga scan.

Not anymore

Now:

Sasuke's eyes = naruto + 9 bijuus + rsm + all NE