Why Sakura is the "best" ninja and how can she become the "strongest" ninja

[Queen of Bananas]

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Most of that is your own assumption and speculation.

And what are those potentials? Could say the same thing for any character.
She is a side character which author used however he liked. She does not have any special clan or KKG because author could not give 2 shits about her development as a character, because she is not special, would not add anything positive to the plot. Few fappers being euphoric over it would not be worth it to waste panels drawing those.

What assumptions.

Did you even read it? @bold.

No one would want to fap to her. Hinata is the most useless character and yet has the biggest fan base because that's fap material lol.

No, you couldn't.

Hiruzen Sarutobi knows every jutsu. That means he can use every element. He is the God of Jutsu.

This is because he has perfect chakra control like most pure Senjus and he was raised to BELIEVE he could attain and defend himself.

Literally, BELIEVE IT. That's the theme of the show. Do you see why?

Sakura was denied this balance in her nature and so was Tsunade because they both lacked this BELIEF.

The belief that a female can't defend herself from external entities is due to her being raised by an insecure father figure or one with a large ego that needed his daughter to be a damsel in distress that he constantly saved in order to feel good about himself, so he denied his daughter the BELIEF that she could defend herself.

You'll notice for both Tsunade and Sakura, their DEFENSE is literally to go on an OFFENSE - it's not even a defense, it's her pounding the shit out of anyone she feels is out to get her and when she can't, the breaks down crying. But they have the ability of PURE CHAKRA CONTROL like HIRUZEN SARUTOBI. They are, therefore, both one belief away from attaining GOD LEVEL which is that they can DEFEND THEMSELVES.

 

[GetsugaTenshou]

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What assumptions.

Did you even read it? @bold.

No one would want to fap to her. Hinata is the most useless character and yet has the biggest fan base because that's fap material lol.

No, you couldn't.

Hiruzen Sarutobi knows every jutsu. That means he can use every element. He is the God of Jutsu.

This is because he has perfect chakra control like most pure Senjus and he was raised to BELIEVE he could attain and defend himself.

Literally, BELIEVE IT. That's the theme of the show. Do you see why?

Sakura was denied this balance in her nature and so was Tsunade because they both lacked this BELIEF.

The belief that a female can't defend herself from external entities is due to her being raised by an insecure father figure or one with a large ego that needed his daughter to be a damsel in distress that he constantly saved in order to feel good about himself, so he denied his daughter the BELIEF that she could defend herself.

You'll notice for both Tsunade and Sakura, their DEFENSE is literally to go on an OFFENSE - it's not even a defense, it's her pounding the shit out of anyone she feels is out to get her and when she can't, the breaks down crying. But they have the ability of PURE CHAKRA CONTROL like HIRUZEN SARUTOBI. They are, therefore, both one belief away from attaining GOD LEVEL which is that they can DEFEND THEMSELVES.

@ Bold. This has to be the highest amount of headcanon, fanfic and conjecture I've ever seen. Sakura was never raised by a misogynist or insecure father and neither was Tsunade. Also, stop assuming the reasons why Hinata fans like Hinata just so you can justify your defense of Sakura

 

[Queen of Bananas]

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Honor + Sakura doesn't really fits together, she doesn't have any honor and probably never will since her whole world is based on a guy that tried to kill her.

And no, she isn't the strongest female ninja.

Her obsession with Sasuke is because Sasuke is like your guy that believes he can do anything, and therefore doesn't need anyone. This explains why Sasuke is independently moving about on his own. He doesn't need Sakura, but he can give her what she always needed from her dad, unconditional love and acceptance - these are the things he gives to himself. Sakura needs these, but Sasuke doesn't respect her enough to give it to her, so she struggles to attain his respect, and eventually he does and she is able to find an identity after being lost for so long.

The acceptance and respect factor comes in when you look at how she now wears the Uchiha Clan crest. Sakura is also now stable because she has found what she needs from her other half basically. They keep one another grounded, despite being miles apart and not saying much of a word.

NOTE: I've made a lot of assumptions on psychological factors of this dynamic as well as the dynamic between Sakura and her father, but you can tell from what we've seen of her father that he's insecure and therefore ego driven, this is evidenced by his rather animated personality. There are signs in the character's and other characters' behaviors that illustrate their issues.

 

[TrueRage]

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Sakura is good ill give her that but the best man i dont know there to many blanks to say she is the best we didnt get to see many of the other towns and what they had to offer

 

[Queen of Bananas]

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Honor + Sakura doesn't really fits together, she doesn't have any honor and probably never will since her whole world is based on a guy that tried to kill her.

And no, she isn't the strongest female ninja.

She is one belief away from being the strongest female ninja, that she can defend herself. That's why I titled this thread, "why she is the "best" and how she can become the "strongest."

She is the best because she is in theory capable of learning all jutsu which is evident in her academy results and her absolutely perfect chakra control that you only rarely see in the best Senjus.

She simply lacks the "BELIEF" that she is able to defend herself because her father was too selfish to allow her to have that for herself. Her father is an @sshole, which is why she's such an annoying doormat.

Well i'm pretty sure kishi hasn't named her the strongest current female ninja, so why would he give her the respect of one?.



Tbh iv'e known girls like sakura IRL, Doesn't matter how bad a dude treat them, Their thirst/feelings > any rational thought/behavior

This is a serious issue.

These girls become doormats because they are trying to attain the unconditional affections and acceptance of their fathers. And when their father's don't provide it to them, they look for it from external sources which are often men that are very stable and that unconditionally love and accept themselves and do so for those that they respect.

That's why Sakura tries so hard to gain Sasuke's respect because she's realized her father will never give it to her.

I swear, bad parenting scars kids for life.

 

[Darth Natsu Shazneel]

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She is nothing like Kushina lol.

Kushina is life force, resilience, perseverance and warmth in a sense of the word.

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She is like Tsunade because they have the same ability - the necessity for chakra balance and are humanitarian and pure at heart which is why they are so sensitive to the loss of loved ones. It can be traumatizing. Tsunade developed the fear of blood and Sakura only ever fell for Sasuke because she saw how strong he was in being able to sustain and live for himself - this is something Sakura fails to do. Her pure nature does not allow her to necessarily do things for herself, and she will suffer for the sake of others which is why she was chosen to be a medic - she has the correct core beliefs to live for others and not herself.

Aside from Sakura receiving jutsue there was nothing similar about the two story wise. Sakura never had a traumatizing experience of losing a loved one aside from Sasuke leaving the village.

Her problem is she doesn't know how to defend herself from incoming attacks because those are of a variation of chakra natures and Sakura can only work with "Pure Chakra Energy." Once she learns that she can manipulate incoming attacks to be transformed into usable "Pure Chakra Energy" she can dispel or absorb it before utilizing it in all its usable capacities. She would also be at peace with this because it would not be going against her innate humanitarian nature not to harm others.

If thats her problem than how is she a good ninja? Those are basics of being a ninja. This woulda shoulda coulda won't help in this case.

In a way, Sakura is not yet balanced, but needs to be balanced in order to survive.

Kishimoto is a failure for not teaching her to efficiently address incoming energies as well as manipulating energies into their derivatives.

Exactly. She is not balanced at all and is a one trick pony. That does not make her a good ninja. Also often times she works off her emotions instead of collective thinking in tougher situations. She went straight on to hit Madara when she had her teamates besides her.

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A good ninja would not do something like that. Because it makes things worse for your team mates.

Sakura is literally one ability away from becoming a Hiruzen and mastering chakra control, that is the BELIEF that she can defend herself.

I hope you were drunk while typing this. Cause this sounds awfully wrong.

Right now her DEFENSE is her OFFENSE.

This statement would work if her offence was not so linear.

 

[Queen of Bananas]

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Aside from Sakura receiving jutsue there was nothing similar about the two story wise. Sakura never had a traumatizing experience of losing a loved one aside from Sasuke leaving the village.



If thats her problem than how is she a good ninja? Those are basics of being a ninja. This woulda shoulda coulda won't help in this case.



Exactly. She is not balanced at all and is a one trick pony. That does not make her a good ninja. Also often times she works off her emotions instead of collective thinking in tougher situations. She went straight on to hit Madara when she had her teamates besides her.

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A good ninja would not do something like that. Because it makes things worse for your team mates.



I hope you were drunk while typing this. Cause this sounds awfully wrong.



This statement would work if her offence was not so linear.

No she is not like Kushina, Kushina never broke down crying for Minato to love him, and Kushina never relied on anyone but herself; even aiming to become hokage. Kushina is arguably nothing like Sakura because Kushina lost her entire clan but still; resilience, perseverance and unconditional self-love.

Well, thank God Sakura never lost a loved one, Tsunade is a rampant alcoholic, a gambler, a bitter woman, held a debilitating fear of blood for years because two people died, and probably has a long history of promiscuity but this is PG apparently.

Sakura is the fragile sensitive one that hasn't lost yet, so she fears losing. And she knows Sasuke is the only one who is capable of unconditionally accepting her, so she adamantly grew stronger so he would respect her enough to do so.

Sakura and Tsunade unfortunately should have been given the belief to know that they could protect themselves. That's literally the difference between successful and unsuccessful women that become doormats, their ability to stand on their own two feet and this ability come from the love given by the dominant parent which is a male in this case. That they can emotionally care for themselves and don't need others. That's the difference.

That's why they give and are willing to sacrifice themselves for others... because they long to be loved unconditionally, so they can find peace. Abandonment and emotional neglect towards females is literally heartbreaking and often leaves them scarred for life.

The thing here is that Sakura was an intelligent doormat. And she is no longer a doormat because she's received Sasuke's respect and he therefore sees her as an equal worthy of being given unconditional love and acceptance.

No...I am not drunk. But Sakura might become so if Sasuke leaves her or if something happens to him.

In any case, Sakura literally can't defend herself other than being a ***** and being a ***** happens when one is insecure and starts attacking for no reason. So therefore, her defense is to go on the offense. Does it make sense now? She lashes out and hurts others because she feels insecure in that moment and doesn't know how to deal with it - she lacks emotional management, this also explains her bi polar nature.

It's like Sakura is exothermic. When the internal energy exceeds the limits of the body, the body breaks apart and the energy is uncontrollably released.

 

[JStar King]

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She's not really the best ninja. Despite how much she has gained, she's far from being the best.

 

[Jiren]

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Naw she has the Byakugan. She can read chakara of who ever is around. Would have been interesting if she used it on Kaguya to give us an idea of how much chakara she has.

Sasuke already assessed that she had more chakra than Madara using his sharingan. Hinata would have no place in the kaguya battle that i can think of

 

[JStar King]

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Sasuke already assessed that she had more chakra than Madara using his sharingan. Hinata would have no place in the kaguya battle that i can think of

Actually, she would, especially since she gained Hamura's chakra. And on the top of Sakura, the only reason why she got a lucky hit on Kaguya is because she had her focus on Naruto/Sasuke who were trying to seal her.

Not underestimating Sakura, but unless someone in Kaguya's tier was distracted, Sakura is a sitting duck. We've seen that multiple times in the series when she faced other characters (Shin, Omoi)

 

[kiiro]

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She didn't need a God handout to harm Kaguya

She needed plot no jutsu.

 

[salamander uchiha]

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Sasuke already assessed that she had more chakra than Madara using his sharingan. Hinata would have no place in the kaguya battle that i can think of

Agreed Hinata could stand their and say n..naruto kun... getting low diffed as she always does. Even with hamira chakra she couldnt even destroy the Tenseigan vessel f'ing pathetic.

 

[Team7monaa]

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She needed plot no jutsu.

Just like Naruto and Sasuke countless amounts of times.

Either way Sakura was arguably not an amazing ninja if we’re going by the textbook definition but neither were Sasuke or Naruto for that matter, they let their emotions cloud their judgement and broke various other rules. Once she became an adult however, I think she kind of manages herself more appropriately and is a head medic

 

[Uverdore9]

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Sakura is easily the best character in Naruto, after Sasuke. She is actually realistic, girls really are this way mostly, in real life. People need a fanfic character with no flaws but that is BS when you, think about the long term anime. There would not be any "fan base" then. Fan base mostly revolves around "hate" and "bashing" which is the reason why Itachi and Minato and Hinata has the biggest fan base on earth related to Naruto anime. Itachi's fans bash Minato's and the counter party flips it back at them. This is the same reason Hinata has fans and Hidan does not. Both start with a H, both are "useless", both are "clumsy" and etc. But what is the key difference? Why does dear Hidan have zero fans(In NB, definitely zero) and hinata despite her bad character and overall "uselessness" being, praised so heavily and given fanfic feats? Because they want a tool to bash Sakura for. They indirectly want to bash Sasuke for being above Naruto. Just look at the feats? Beating a juubi clone. What is Sakura's best feats? Outrunning a juubi hand and punching the mother of all shinobi. But people still compare these two and even have the nerve to make VS battles regarding these two. The gap in strength and speed is too overwhelming and imbalanced. Which proves the only reason she has fans is to bash Sakura by comparing nonsense with facts and saying "Stay salty, hamura chakra soloes". Same for Sasuke, he had the most hype in Naruto but in the war arc Naruto, gained some impressive feats which pales in comparison to Sasuke and because he "lost" against Naruto "literally"(it was ideologically actually) they try hyping his brittle little feats to the maximum despite, the VOTE fight being written so badly with obvious plot armour(Genjutsu nerf). So mainly, this is the reason. Certain character gets overhyped in the start and in the end the underrated guy gets new feats, the OH guy still has great feats but get low balled and belittled. Same happened with Itachi he was hyped like hell in the start then has "poor showings" as seen by majority. And Other, than that Sakura is a good character who had a story to tell other than hinata who do not have a story, only childish memes and moments which are overrated to the extreme and zero devolopments in her character.

 

[kiiro]

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She already surpassed Naruto and Sasuke. Juubi hands smacked Naruto in his spsm mode, he couldn't even dodge for a bit, which Sakura outran for a humongous amount of times.

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No shinobi will say "I cannot dodge that attack" instead they will imply it by the words "too fast", "you are pretty fast" just like Madara complimented Sasuke when he could not dodge him even in the slightest. Same way Sakura in her chakra exhausted state after helping obito with the dimensions travel, still hit Kaguya and broke her horn and replicated the same speed by dodging Juubis hands. Of course by that we can infer Weakened Sakura >>> spsm Naruto in speed and full strength Sakura>>>>> Sasuke in speed and in Boruto manga she blitzed shin with 5 Mangekyou and was faster than Sasuke can see with his eye powers as he was surprised she was even there. There is Databook proof, Manga proof from two seperate series and yet if some certain people cannot accept facts, they are what you can label "butthurt haters" just because she
shit stomps thier faves blatantly. The very reason people hate her this bad is proof of her power, similar to Itachi's case who was called absolutely invincible in manga + Databook acknowledgement but still there would be some nitpicking that making BS excuses right? They acknowledge her and his power but salts and crying tears stand in thier way to state it out right.

Sakura was far from the palm, reason she could run for a little bit.

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Here is the full picture. She was gonna be smashed if it was nor for Kakashi who saved her with his Susano.

Bold: Please stop saying that. Those are not facts and much less when you dont post the whole picture. Mangekyo sharingan or sharingan doesnt make you faster it just lets them see the movments much better and predict them. A small Shin even with a Sharingan can be blitzed by Gennin Lee.

 

[kiiro]

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Just like Naruto and Sasuke countless amounts of times.

Either way Sakura was arguably not an amazing ninja if we’re going by the textbook definition but neither were Sasuke or Naruto for that matter, they let their emotions cloud their judgement and broke various other rules. Once she became an adult however, I think she kind of manages herself more appropriately and is a head medic

She is strong and she did not have any Power Up. She showed how ninjas should train and how tough it is with no Power Ups.

but that doesnt take away how dummy was when she nocked Kaguya in the head when she had Byakugan.

 

[kiiro]

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Sakura isn't the best ninja. Off the top of my head, Itachi, Tobirama and Danzo are the actual 'best ninja', they're the only ones who never let emotions get in the way of their decisions and are prepared to be ruthless to achieve what they perceive as the greater good. One instance is Obito asking her to get rid of his eye so Madara wouldn't be able to use it. Itachi, Tobirama or Danzo would have done it without a second thought but Sakura hesitated and that led to Madara attaining his full power. Sakura is too influenced by emotions to truly be the best ninja. Basically every ninja in the NV excluding Itachi, Tobirama and Danzo is too influenced by emotions

Even Itachi had feelings.

 

[Queen of Bananas]

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@ Bold. This has to be the highest amount of headcanon, fanfic and conjecture I've ever seen. Sakura was never raised by a misogynist or insecure father and neither was Tsunade. Also, stop assuming the reasons why Hinata fans like Hinata just so you can justify your defense of Sakura

The female fanbase might not be a fan for those reasons, but the male one will definitely be so for all the wrong reasons.

 

[kiiro]

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1. Taught Naruto chakra control. He would have been genin level for life without Sakura

1.- Ebisu and Jiraiya taught him chakra contro. Sakura gave and advice.

 

[Jiren]

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Actually, she would, especially since she gained Hamura's chakra. And on the top of Sakura, the only reason why she got a lucky hit on Kaguya is because she had her focus on Naruto/Sasuke who were trying to seal her.

Not underestimating Sakura, but unless someone in Kaguya's tier was distracted, Sakura is a sitting duck. We've seen that multiple times in the series when she faced other characters (Shin, Omoi)

Hinata in the war arc has no place in the fight. She doesn't have the strength to knock kaguya off balance even if she was distracted. She's not a medic and she doesn't have the chakra to help obito rescue sasuke