Why Sage Mode is overrated

[Slender Man]

Exhibit A:

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Summoning Ma and Pa take up a considerable amount of time and restricts your movement. Against Four Tail Naruto, Jiraiya probably had no time to summon them (which speaks a lot about how effective Sage Mode is in battle).

Or if Jiraiya did use Sage Mode, he still got hurt pretty bad. Either way, he got owned and has the scar to prove it.

Exhibit B:

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It is a manga fact that Sage Mode increases your strength and speed, and yet Itachi had no problem countering SM Kabuto's speedblitz assault.

While it's true that Kabuto was able to dodge Sasuke's arrow (which Danzo/Kakashi said was too fast to dodge), Itachi still found a way to stop his movements. Totsuka Blade could have finished him off right here:

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And I thought Sage Mode helps to protect you from danger? I guess in the fine print this doesn't include your horns.

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Naruto, with the ability to go Sage Mode, claims that he needs the Kyuubi Chakra to fight Sasuke. The above scans speaks for itself. SM is not enough to bring down a weakened Sasuke.

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What if Nagato rammed this rod through Naruto's skull? Also, remember that Nagato was somewhat tired after taking on entire village. He was also holding back so he could capture and not kill Naruto.

SM Naruto on other hand came prepared with all his clones and frogs and still ended up eating dirt.

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frog song is gg?

People say Naruto with Frog Genjutsu owns X character. Ironic, because this only further demonstrates why Sage Mode is overrated. Ma and Pa are the ones doing the genjutsu. Assuming that the earlier assumption is true, then it is an admission that Ma and Pa are the real threats and not the Frog User.

But practically speaking, frog genjutsu takes considerable time to pull off. Not only do you have to summon the toad sages (which wastes time), you must also wait for the song to be ready after you summon them (which also wastes time). This type of strategy would never work in an open field.

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A blind Madara speedblitzes SM Naruto and is underwhelmed by Hashirama's Sage powers. This confirms that SM is overrated.

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SM Juugo fodderized.

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SM Jiraiya fodderized.

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[Aomine Daiki]

Jiraya took down i think it was 4 of the Pains with sage mode

 

[Bijuu13]

stop hating just stop

 

[Erebus]

Wow that a lot of proof, while it's true that some people overrate it, they are few and far between. Anyway thanks for showing people the light.

 

[Flawž]

Shit thread with shit scans.

Try again.

 

[AlphaScythian]

SM is okay, naruto is overrated with it.

 

[Clouds]

It is overrated il give you that... :c

 

[-Punk-]

1/Naruto's words most of the time are nothing but BS .

2/Obito told Sauske that same arc , that Naruto was probably stronger .

3/Is not overrated , in fact : people forget what SM is all about & what can really do , just because Naruto got some super saiyan fireworks powers after it .

 

[Flawž]

People forget that Rikudo most likely had Sage mode and enabled him to harm the Juubi with it similar to juubito and his weakness to senjutsu.

I don't think Sage mode is overrated at all, If anything it's underrated. It was able to keep up with the 6 paths of pain and was able defeat kurama.

 

[dark legion]

while you take the negative points , it may look useless ..All the opponents (pein,Itachi,Madara,) adimted the strength of SM user... :eww:

 

[goodro88]

BS thread!!!!

 

[-Spoiler-]

this thread has more shit than a clog toilet.

 

[-Spoiler-]

1/Naruto's words most of the time are nothing but BS .

2/Obito told Sauske that same arc , that Naruto was probably stronger .

3/Is not overrated , in fact : people forget what SM is all about & what can really do , just because Naruto got some super saiyan fireworks powers after it .

this exactly. before last week chapter the only time people remember sage mode is when is combined with BM

 

[saw2097]

A very biased thread as you fail to include any of SM positive moments, that makes this thread invalid.

 

[KingHashirama]

Jiraya took down i think it was 4 of the Pains with sage mode

He would've beat pain fully, if he had known the secret. So pain had a huge advantage on his side.

People forget that Rikudo most likely had Sage mode and enabled him to harm the Juubi with it similar to juubito and his weakness to senjutsu.

I don't think Sage mode is overrated at all, If anything it's underrated. It was able to keep up with the 6 paths of pain and was able defeat kurama.

You don't need SM to harm the Juubi though. You need SM to harm the jinchuriki.

 

[Draphsin]

SM is properly rated, people who overrate/underrate it are fanboys/haters.

 

[Drakengard]

I see varied views on Sage Mode's strength... so I don't really know how to respond until I know what level you think it is on. All I can do is agree or disagree on some points:

A: Well we all know Jiraiya hasn't completed Sage Mode to the point of some others. This has more to do with Jiraiya needing to summon Ma and Pa rather than attaining SM. Naruto for example, has gotten into it pretty easily for the last however many chapters.

B: That was a duo attack so it seems a bit unfair. Itachi already contributed to the combo with his Susano'o magatamas. I will agree that being in Sage Mode shouldn't always result in speedblitzing opponents. To be fair it rarely happens that easily anymore. This was the argument everybody was making about KCM/BM Naruto speed that never lived up to "expectations".

C: Already a hot topic. Personally I think they'd be near equal but this will cause a fight in itself.

D: I never thought SM Naruto > the 6 paths, but your point is a bit invalid when in terms of Sage Mode since Naruto was in base. If that was Sage Mode, Deva path probably wouldn't be able to penetrate the skin. SM Naruto himself would need to do it.

E: This also isn't really a Sage Mode topic like you said. It also depends on many variables. In Jiraiya's case, it's not THAT hard to stall for time. In Naruto's however, leaving the toads defenseless is a bad idea. (Kurama won't interfere so they can attach to him now... making it easier)

F: Hashirama isn't shown to create the Budda without Sage Mode. That's pretty important if it was a game changer in the VoTE match. This is also the new and improved Madara we're talking about here. Senjutsu Madara with Hashirama powers should logically > Senjutsu Naruto. Sounds like a way to hype up the power of the combined Senju and Uchiha powers. You can also play with the words but nah..

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-A >> Jugo regardless
-"Fodderized" seems a bit too harsh in this case. Jiraiya destroyed a path while all 6 were present and escaped while only having 1 arm. Pretty good if you ask me.

I feel like you're not arguing that the speed, strength, endurance, and other traits are overrated... but the people the users can beat is overrated. Am I right?

 

[salamander uchiha]

1/Naruto's words most of the time are nothing but BS .

2/Obito told Sauske that same arc , that Naruto was probably stronger .

3/Is not overrated , in fact : people forget what SM is all about & what can really do , just because Naruto got some super saiyan fireworks powers after it .

That was to make him stop his plan of attack on konoha.
Yet naruto admits inferiority to a blinding ms sasuke.
It is good naruto with it is fodder overrated kakashi with it would be underrated since versatility of jutsu would make it good.

 

[salamander uchiha]

He would've beat pain fully, if he had known the secret. So pain had a huge advantage on his side.



You don't need SM to harm the Juubi though. You need SM to harm the jinchuriki.

No jutsu has shown to hurt jyubi except enton not even tailed beast balls they are one of the 2 most destructive jutsu shown.
Sage mode enhances a shinobi but a fodder with sage mode(naruto) is still fodder if kakashi had it it would be something else.

 

[xcoyote]

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