[Theory] Why Rikudou Sennin's Appearance Is Hidden

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

That may be the case. However if it is Naruto's relation, along with the rest of the Uzumaki's, to the Sage is distant at best. So much so it seems negligible in the grand scheme of things.

Also I feel it is safe to assume the Rikudou is the pinnacle of the Uzumaki. Why would he want to "end" his line and instead create two new clans?

I believe Rikudou is an Uzumaki, however the intricacies are still a matter of question.

Actually it makes perfect sense for Naruto to be an Uzumaki and not a Senju or Uchiha, since the Uzumaki heritage is the human heritage of Rikudou Sennin, the Senjus and Uchihas are created from the Juubi's essence, Rikudou himself after becoming the Juubi's Jin is Senju and Uchiha in one body, that is why if Naruto is to parallel Rikudou in battling the Juubi, he must belong to the original human bloodline (emulating Rikudou prior to sealing the Juubi) instead of Naruto belonging and representing either Senju and Uchiha, which are the "children' of the Juubi.

 

[Regulus]

Actually it makes perfect sense for Naruto to be an Uzumaki and not a Senju or Uchiha, since the Uzumaki heritage is the human heritage of Rikudou Sennin, the Senjus and Uchihas are created from the Juubi's essence, Rikudou himself after becoming the Juubi's Jin is Senju and Uchiha in one body, that is why if Naruto is to parallel Rikudou in battling the Juubi, he must belong to the original human bloodline (emulating Rikudou prior to sealing the Juubi) instead of Naruto belonging and representing either Senju and Uchiha, which are the "children' of the Juubi.

That makes sense. It makes Naruto's character a lot more important then if he was a direct descendant of Rikudou. It shows that he achieved his power and not simply inherited it from someone he never met.

I feel there is a parallelism between the Uzumaki's and Rikudou, as you have described them, and The Dragonborn and Tiber Septim from the Elder Scrolls series. In this example Naruto is a parallel to the Dragonborn from Skyrim and Rikudou is Tiber Septim. While they are both the same, Uzumaki and Dragonborn, they are not directly related. However both are very important in the world.

 

[osba]

Thanks, well we must consider that the Uzumaki red hair is a clan trait (along with their Fuuinjutsu), and not an individual hair color like say Gaara's or Sasori's, this is a specific tribe whose full blooded members all have red hair (Naruto is half), so logically following the material conditional if..then, the Rikudou as an Uzumaki must necessarily have red hair, some may argue that it could not be the case that Rikudou may not necessarily have red hair however this is impossible, Rikudou Sennin, being one of the progenitor Uzumakis, must have red hair, in order for the later generations of Uzumakis to have a strong gene for red hair, because red hair is a recessive gene in humans, so it follows that their ancestors like Rikudou must have red hair.

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as you can see, the uzumaki's red hair isnt a recessive gen, (in real life it is) so your right.

unless his father is a true uzumaki and just had 2 reccesive genes, one for black one for red, and chance made him have black hair.. but uzumaki's haircolour couldnt possibly be a reccesive gene.. because then there wouldve been way more black hair-coloured uzumaki's.

so if its a dominant gene, there is more chance for so6p to have had black, yellow or whatever colour hair than chance he had red.. else we would have seen the sons and senju/uchiha having red hair often too..

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

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as you can see, the uzumaki's red hair isnt a recessive gen, (in real life it is) so your right.

The dominant is the Uzumaki gene, since the mother and her ancestors from successive generations had made the corresponding Allele for red hair dominant through inbreeding over successive generations despite its' naturally recessive trait.

 

[osba]

The dominant is the Uzumaki gene, since the mother and her ancestors from successive generations had made the corresponding Allele for red hair dominant through inbreeding over successive generations despite its' naturally recessive trait.

if it would have been dominant in so6p, we wouldve seen more redhaired senjus and uchiha's:dunno:

edit: sorry for saying you were right in my first line.. it was to lure you in for a comment on it, so i could prove you wrong :>

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

if it would have been dominant in so6p, we wouldve seen more redhaired senjus and uchiha's:dunno:

But that's the difference, his children were created not through natural birth, but through Banbutsu Sōzō like the Bijuus, more than anything, The Elder and Younger Sons are the eye and body of the Juubi.

 

[Draxus]

I think you are mistaking what evidence in this case is. In your case tangible evidence(1) would amount to either kishi directly telling us or something that is DIRECTLY seen in the manga, but a definition like that is flawed in a few ways. On the other hand a looser/better set (2) of rules would be where evidence is determined by the preponderance of the evidence/likelyhood.

Now the issue with the tangible kind of evidence is that it becomes very hard to claim anything as an absolute fact with very few things meeting the criteria. For example, we would all agree that Jiraiya is dead. But in the manga we have seen no burial nor have we seen a dead body but we have seen Kabuto say that he himself could not confirm Jiriayas death because his body was too hard to get to. With that a logical argument could be made that he is not dead, but that wouldnt fit your rules, but also a logical argument could be made that he is dead, but that too requires more proof in regards to your rules. So with this set of rules you can see how hard it can be for someone to assert most things as facts. Which in all honesty is what a theory thread is all about, i mean if there was definite proof of what was being said then there would be no need for making a thread speculating about it.

So then we are left with the 2nd definition which is basically based on the likelyhood being true. Where in Jiraiyas case we can say, "Ok, it may be possible that he is alive and it may be possible that he is still dead but chances are he is dead and based on that likelyhood we are all going to assume he is dead." That is the same logic [Theory] threads go by. There may not be DEFINITE proof (and again if there was there would be no need for making the thread) but based on likelyhood and common sense we can assert certain things as facts or at the very least likely although said thing was not necessarily said to be so in the manga.

So basically this is all fan fiction.

 

[osba]

But that's the difference, his children were created not through natural birth, but through Banbutsu Sōzō like the Bijuus, more than anything, The Elder and Younger Sons are the eye and body of the Juubi.

i think your wrong there.. the eye and body "mods" came to be the same way naruto's whiskers did... by having influence as soon as the sperm was created. or was it stated that they were created from banbutsu?

i guess it could be, but i don't ought it very likely hmm what would be the use?

your likelier wrong than right there.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

i think your wrong there.. the eye and body "mods" came to be the same way naruto's whiskers did... by having influence as soon as the sperm was created. or was it stated that they were created from banbutsu?

i guess it could be, but i don't ought it very likely hmm what would be the use?

your likelier wrong than right there.

Actually it really was Banbutsu Sōzō that created the Senju and Uchiha ancestors, that is why their powers are so evenly divided, the Yin is the Uchiha and the Yang is the Senju.

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[osba]

Actually it really was Banbutsu Sōzō that created the Senju and Uchiha ancestors, that is why their powers are so evenly divided, the Yin is the Uchiha and the Yang is the Senju.

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oh wow i guess your right then!

better read my manga before i post ^^

although to my defence.. the story of the so6p and his sons is ancient, much like the bible.. and like with the bible, deviations must have occured.. remember magdalena?

 

[Killer Vision]

The presentation is just excellent. It felt like a powerpoint presentation while reading it. Hooked me up like always. awesome theory Derp and absolutely a fun read.

 

[itachi1000]

Interesting theory, this provides even more evidence that the Sage is in fact an Uzumaki.=D

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Interesting theory, this provides even more evidence that the Sage is in fact an Uzumaki.=D

Thanks bro.

 

[Floydical]

Gotta disagree. The sage was shown walking around and conversing with the beasts after extraction, this is a completely different case from Nagato who's hair turned white just before he died. The picture of him from behind is a strong indication of his hair being pale at every stage in his life and even strongly suggests it was blonde like Naruto's. The sage was obviously a special case when it came to chakra reserves and therefore I don't believe that his hair had changed color drastically near his death.

As for Tobi/Obito, some people might have thought that Tobi being Obito was too obvious and therefore concluded it couldn't be him, but most of us believed he couldn't be Obito simply because it was not possible based on the timeline. Keep in mind that the history of the Mist confirmed that someone had controlled the 4th Mizukage back when Zabuza was graduating from the academy when he was around 9 years old (forget how old exactly exactly). Knowing that Zabuza, Kakashi and Obito were all around the same age, it was literally impossible for Obito to have been the one controlling the Mizukage.

As you can see in the manga, Kishi has tried to rectify that problem by explaining that the Bloody Mist did in fact exist before Obito took control of the Village. However, this was simply an attempt on his part to cover an existing plothole. But again, this was the primary reason so many people were convinced Tobi could not be Obito.

One other thing, if the Uzumaki and Hyuga predated the Uchiha/ Senju and the Sage did not have a wife, then how do the Hyuga and Uzumaki exist now? Surely the sage would have had to pass on his genes through biological children if in fact they exist today. Either way I look at it, I find your theory impossible because if he created his sons, than he did not actually pass on his DNA and if they were his actual sons, that mean Uchiha/ Senju predated Uzumaki/ Hyuga undoubtedly.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

The Mokuton is the body of the Juubi:

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The Sharingan is the eye of the Juubi:

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The Rinnegan is the Juubi's Eye (Sharingan) + Body (Mokuton) combined:

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The Uzumaki Heritage (Life Force + Sealing Jutsu) is Rikudou Sennin's original bloodline prior to becoming the Juubi's Jinchuuriki:

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Rikudou Sennin divided himself into Yin and Yang:

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The Juubi's Yin became the Uchiha:

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The Juubi's Yang became the Senju:

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The Senju and Uchiha then are the body and the eye of the Juubi

Therefore the equation is:

Uzumaki (Rikudou Sennin) + Juubi = Senju (Mokuton/Yang) and Uchiha (Sharingan/Yin)

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[- Їиfєяио -]

Great Theory Sir Derp

<3 NOT TO MENTION I LOVE YOUR SIG <3​

 

[spatha]

i must disagree entirely, simply because i recall one of the first databooks actually said the uzumaki were a branch of the senju clan, that said, senju would come before them and the senju as we know came from the younger son, so so6p predates the uzumaki

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

i must disagree entirely, simply because i recall one of the first databooks actually said the uzumaki were a branch of the senju clan, that said, senju would come before them and the senju as we know came from the younger son, so so6p predates the uzumaki

Nope, no official databook has ever said that, all that was said in canon was that the Senjus and Uzumakis were distant relatives

 

[FearxDeath]

So basically this is all fan fiction.

Not neccesarily, then again it depends on your description of the word fan fiction. Did kishi directly confirm or deny any of the assumptions we have made? Ofcourse not. Are we fans? Yes. Is Naruto a fictional manga? Yes. So yes it is all Fan Fiction. But I dont know how that adds or takes away from anything that was said.

Let me put it in a simpler way. If you walk into your house and hear barking, look on the floor and see dog poop, and see a flyer for a 50$ puppy laying on your counter. The first thing you would assume is someone in the house just bought a puppy. Now you CANT state this to be a fact because you just dont know, there is a just that this is all an elaborate plot. But CHANCES are that someone did buy a puppy, and you shouldnt be faulted for acting upon that assumption.

That is what Theories are, there are assumptions created through hints and evidences found within the Manga and although the manga does not DIRECTLY say said assumption is true or false through common sense we can all agree that it is likely to be so.

Lastly I want to tell you that when you look at a Theory you should not be judging whether it is true or false or right and wrong. But rather whether or not it is likely or unlikely. And if it is likely then how likely is it, somethings like jiraiya being dead is highly likely while things like Jiraiya being Tobiramas son is highly unlikely.

Also remember that there is no such thing as a factual theory, rather a factual theory would fall under the category of an explanation or a statement but not a theory. A theory is a speculation, and you cannot speculate about things that are facts.

I hope that helps answer your statement x__x

 

[Lightingkashshi]

Nice theory, +1