[Discussion] Why Rayleigh is called ''Dark King"?

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Well Epithets, they are used to describe some specific characteristic of a person i.e: they are based on that.
Hawk Eyes, Sky Demon,, Hundred beasts, etc, We can infer something about the person from their epithet.
So why is Rayleigh alled Dark King? Any ideas?

I think his Busoshoku haki used to be incomparable in the past, that may be the reason he was called that. Because the user actually turns Black/dark when he use Busoshoku Haki.
 
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Well we know he's one of the best in Haki (back in his era he was probably THE best). So he would be the "king" of Haki. CoA makes stuff Dark/black so Haki would have a dark tone to it. So his name would be "Dark King" aka King of Haki. Also his outfit was dark.

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His BH was probably the best. This resembles him just more as Zoro's counterpart since Zoro is specialiced in BH.
 

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Well we know he's one of the best in Haki (back in his era he was probably THE best). So he would be the "king" of Haki. CoA makes stuff Dark/black so Haki would have a dark tone to it. So his name would be "Dark King" aka King of Haki. Also his outfit was dark.

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Based on outfit? That would be, say a little lame. Though the Haki one makes sense, that's the only conclusion I could come up with because personality wise, there is nothing 'dark' about him.
Now that I think about it, Oda said in SBS that Zoro specializes in "Color of Arnament" (Luffy for Conqueror and Sanji for Observation). And since Rayleigh is like an previous era (somewhat) parallel of Zoro, it would make sense if he also specialised in CoA and took it to a whole new level.


His BH was probably the best. This resembles him just more as Zoro's counterpart since Zoro is specialiced in BH.

Whoops, read your post later but yeah I agree.
 
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Well we know he's one of the best in Haki (back in his era he was probably THE best). So he would be the "king" of Haki. CoA makes stuff Dark/black so Haki would have a dark tone to it. So his name would be "Dark King" aka King of Haki. Also his outfit was dark.

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Well I'd assume Rodger was number one in the Haki department.


Most likely it refers to some aspect of him (dark), and some status (king).

For example, Devil Child refers to Robin having an early record and the idea she destroyed battleships.

Hawkeye refers to a hawk like precision/looking/demeanor and then the eye for a literal meaning.



Dark likely refers to some status as being perceived as a merciless enemy or one that doesn't do so once you make the right move. Probably also strong Haki.

And King may refer to being in Rodger's crew.


It's impossible to say honestly.
 

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I don't think Rayleigh had the strongest BH. It should be Roger to match Whitebeard as a non DF user.

I think Rayleigh was called the Dark King because of his swordsmanship style. Since Zoro is the Rayleigh of this era, Rayleigh could have a dark swordsmanship like Zoro.
 

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he cld have had an ominous presence(killer intent as that zoro has but instead of feeling as if u r facing a beast u feel as if u r facing a dark n frightful king)
The haki thing cld b what earned him the epithet.

or maybe, just maybe he had an Asura like technique which projects an ominous crowned demigod
 
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Well we know he's one of the best in Haki (back in his era he was probably THE best). So he would be the "king" of Haki. CoA makes stuff Dark/black so Haki would have a dark tone to it. So his name would be "Dark King" aka King of Haki. Also his outfit was dark.

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I'd like to know where you got that image? Makes Sense.

I don't think Rayleigh had the strongest BH. It should be Roger to match Whitebeard as a non DF user.

I think Rayleigh was called the Dark King because of his swordsmanship style. Since Zoro is the Rayleigh of this era, Rayleigh could have a dark swordsmanship like Zoro.

Don't assume Roger had no DF. It's still unknown. Dark Swordsmanship? What's that?

Probably BH.
 

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Based on outfit? That would be, say a little lame. Though the Haki one makes sense, that's the only conclusion I could come up with because personality wise, there is nothing 'dark' about him.
Now that I think about it, Oda said in SBS that Zoro specializes in "Color of Arnament" (Luffy for Conqueror and Sanji for Observation). And since Rayleigh is like an previous era (somewhat) parallel of Zoro, it would make sense if he also specialised in CoA and took it to a whole new level.




Whoops, read your post later but yeah I agree.


Why not based on outfit? Sanji was called Black leg easily enough.
 

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Don't assume Roger had no DF. It's still unknown. Dark Swordsmanship? What's that?

Probably BH.

I know it's unknown. The reason I'm assuming he didn't have one is because Rayleigh and Shanks didn't have one.

Haven't you seen Zoro's techniques? The are dark and evil.
 

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You would think that if Rayleigh was such a master at BH he would have shown Luffy some intresting stuff.Well I guess its still early on and Luffy hasnt exactly been pushed to the limit yet.Although I dont believe its cause of BH.It seems rather lackluster.
 

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Why not based on outfit? Sanji was called Black leg easily enough.

Only because it sucks for a guy of Rayleigh's caliber to be given an epithet due to his clothing. About Sanji, its "Black leg" which makes sense, if thats also the case of Rayleigh then in "Dark King", what is the King there. King of Dark outfits?

You would think that if Rayleigh was such a master at BH he would have shown Luffy some intresting stuff.Well I guess its still early on and Luffy hasnt exactly been pushed to the limit yet.Although I dont believe its cause of BH.It seems rather lackluster.

He has shown Luffy some great BH feats(even though he is no longer in his prime and was retired for a long time).
Just with a he flipped the whole thing.
 
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Only because it sucks for a guy of Rayleigh's caliber to be given an epithet due to his clothing. About Sanji, its "Black leg" which makes sense, it thats the case also the case of Rayleigh then in "Dark King", what is the King there. King of Dark outfits?



He has shown Luffy some great BH feats(even though he is no longer in his prime and was retired for a long time).
Just with a he flipped the whole thing.

No I mean shown as in thought Luffy.Like if I remember correctly Luffy only uses it in simple forms to attack.He doesnt do any of that stuff that Sentomaru and Rayleigh use.If he rly specialised so much in it he would focus mostly on that right?

But I am not denying that he is an amazing haki user,he is but a small part of me just doesnt want to believe that its the reason why he is nicknamed the dark king you know....
 

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tbh I think Rayleigh was the strongest swordsmen during his era.
 

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I see everyone here saying this that and the other thing, the one thing we know is he was Rodgers first mate and that Rodger was not that serious of a guy like Luffy. So it would be safe to assume that Rayleigh was given his name based on the fact that he made Rodger the pirate king. Dark King means King in the shadows
 

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Pirate king

Dark king

?????? ^^any significant similarities
 

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Well Epithets, they are used to describe some specific characteristic of a person i.e: they are based on that.
Hawk Eyes, Sky Demon,, Hundred beasts, etc, We can infer something about the person from their epithet.
So why is Rayleigh alled Dark King? Any ideas?

I think his Busoshoku haki used to be incomparable in the past, that may be the reason he was called that. Because the user actually turns Black/dark when he use Busoshoku Haki.

thats a funny assumption. but no really. Garp would destroy him in that department. so no, hes not the king of armaments.
 
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