Why people refuse to acknowledged the fact that Naruto is on par or surpassed...

[SasukeTheViper EMS]

Let me just ask you this , What makes you think Hashis sage mode is better than naruto ? Narutos sage mode is like another level of Sage mode just like kabuto DSM .

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I don't know; you tell me...

 

[-Punk-]

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I don't know; you tell me...

I was waiting for this disaster , Narutos biju dama with sage energy shits on Hashis little hand justsu , this is basic Knowledge , hashi has Sage mode , naruto got a Sage mode Upgrade .

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Super Saiyan 2 > Super Saiyan

 

[KidGamer65]

I was waiting for this disaster , Narutos biju dama with sage energy shits on Hashis little hand justsu , this is basic Knowledge , hashi has Sage mode , naruto got a Sage mode Upgrade .

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Super Saiyan 2 > Super Saiyan

Any Bijuu Dama fired is caught and thrown back at him or simply shoved right back in his face. Simple as that.

 

[SasukeTheViper EMS]

I was waiting for this disaster , Narutos biju dama with sage energy shits on Hashis little hand justsu , this is basic Knowledge , hashi has Sage mode , naruto got a Sage mode Upgrade .

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Super Saiyan 2 > Super Saiyan

And you know that how? At the moment, it seems as though what you're referring to as "Sage mode upgrade" is merely Sage energy added to Naruto's techniques, in order to exploit Obito's vulnerability to Sage mode. In other words, it is not a new power-up; rather, something used in conjunction with another thing for a particular purpose.

May I say your argument is invalid?

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

Being a hokage isn't as simple as the 3 attributes you mentioned, nor does it change the fact that being a good hokage doesn't mean you have to be uber powerful, so you are wrong on this point. Simple as that.


lmfao, learn to read pal. If you read my post you would clearly know that the bold is exactly what I said. Naruto mastered Senjutsu and knows how to use it well so it reminds him of fighting with Hashirama. Whose post are you reading anyway?

Don't even know where the underlined interpretation came from anyway.



Just read this thread, I'm not gonna bother explaining it myself.

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- So tell me what exactly was he talking about or don't bother

- So why are we even complaining in that case? Naruto showed a good enough Senjutsu feat that reminded him of Hashi.

- Dude naruto himself said he didn't have a lot of chakra so it wasn't 100% of it. At the least I would say it's full Kurama + Naruto's chakra but Minato's chakra isn't involved in it comparing to what the guy is pretending in that link. Not only there's no proof of Minato being able to share his OWN chakra with everyone who were ''marked'' by Naruto but Hashi didn't mention it.

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

And you know that how? At the moment, it seems as though what you're referring to as "Sage mode upgrade" is merely Sage energy added to Naruto's techniques, in order to exploit Obito's vulnerability to Sage mode. In other words, it is not a new power-up; rather, something used in conjunction with another thing for a particular purpose.

May I say your argument is invalid?

I didn't know learning senjutsu only made so your jutsu had senjutsu on them and nothing else. Love ya logic.

Seriously, I don't have to remind you of all the enhancement that comes with SM, stop underrated it. Now multiply it with BM.

 

[-Punk-]

And you know that how? At the moment, it seems as though what you're referring to as "Sage mode upgrade" is merely Sage energy added to Naruto's techniques, in order to exploit Obito's vulnerability to Sage mode. In other words, it is not a new power-up; rather, something used in conjunction with another thing for a particular purpose.

May I say your argument is invalid?

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You may not , you'll find out next chapter.

 

[SasukeTheViper EMS]

I didn't know learning senjutsu only made so your jutsu had senjutsu on them and nothing else. Love ya logic.

Seriously, I don't have to remind you of all the enhancement that comes with SM, stop underrated it. Now multiply it with BM.

I see you have failed to grasp the meaning of what I said. At the moment, Naruto is only using Sage mode in conjugation with his Bijū mode techniques, such as the Bijū Dama. Meaning, he is not using actual Sage mode techniques; rather, adding Sage chakra to the ones he is currently using. In other words, this is neither a new transformation nor a power-up; this is for the sake of taking advantage of Obito's vulnerability.

 

[Omega]

I get your point but no matter how reliable tobirama is lets not forget he is old as f*** and has been sleepin until now so his memory might be faltered. (Just a little joke there). Anyways caught in the heat of the moment I'd prob be like Naruto better than the 1st too.

People also said Pain was invincible but yet he's....dead. So you can go by word alone.

Now lets take a step back. Hashi did say he was inferior to obito but Naruto isn't anywhere near obito's level or speed either.

Examples: Obito is matching Ftg speed. Sasuke and Naruto would be dead already but with two Ftg users he is looking real good. For instance the first attack that landed (Rasenshuriken amatarasu combo was due to tobirama and minato, the second attack that landed (Rasengan) was due to tobirama, they escaped Juubito's black sphere that followed minato cuz tobirama saved them, they escaped juubi bombs due to Minato, so yea if Hash had people ftg'ing him everywhere he'd look bad ass too. So hash saying he isnt a match for obito isnt proof cuz Naruto is no match for him either. Plus Hash is a bad matchup for any bijuu users so Naruto at disadvantage anyway.
So to sum it up based on these FACTS Hash is better than Naruto (Im not going to say like oh my god Hash is a god cuz Naruto is up there like for real still appreciate your effort

 

[SasukeTheViper EMS]

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You may not , you'll find out next chapter.

As shallow as this reply is, I cannot say that it was not to be expected from you.

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

It's not a coincidence that soo many people disagree. I guess I'm having trouble with Hashi's scale power (which means I'm underrating him). Anyway I must admit defeat.
I guess Naruto isn't on that level (even though we still didn't see what BSM is capable of).

 

[KidGamer65]

- So tell me what exactly was he talking about or don't bother

That's your job to explain, not mine.

- Dude naruto himself said he didn't have a lot of chakra so it wasn't 100% of it. At the least I would say it's full Kurama + Naruto's chakra but Minato's chakra isn't involved in it comparing to what the guy is pretending in that link. Not only there's no proof of Minato being able to share his OWN chakra with everyone who were ''marked'' by Naruto but Hashi didn't mention it.

I figured that Minato wasn't involved so yeah, but 100% Kyuubi+Naruto's own chakra is still a large amount.

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

Didn't SM Hashi make the full Kurama look into a little pet dog? He also fought an EMS Madara at the same time. Silly Nardo wankers!

 

[AGoodBoy]

because not everyone's a brain dead naruto wanker. He's no where near SM Hashi's level. SM Hashi murders him low diff like it or not, it's your business.