Why people refuse to acknowledged the fact that Naruto is on par or surpassed...

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

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''I'll surpass every other Hokage''​

Wasn't Naruto annoying enough when he kept saying he'll become not just Hokage, but the best?
It's almost the end of the series so I think it's kinda normal that the main character becomes stronger than even legends like Hashi. Naruto is fighting the strongest villain the series, I think the least he can be is stronger than Hashi who himself admitted inferiority to Obito. Anyway, what bothers me is the fact that it's something that people refuse to acknowledge, it's like they are still used to like that weak little Naruto who simply TnJ.
What bothers me even more is the fact that Kishi hinted it himself.

Even Tobirama said it himself, this dude is smart and knows his brother more than anyone else so he don't just goes around saying someone might have became stronger for nothing. We all know he's the serious type of guy.

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Tobirama on fire again

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Hashirama himself can't find dem words

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I didn't show it in this thread but Hashi himself kept repeating how inferior he was to Obito couple of chapters before, we lost like 2-3 page of him wanking Obito. Kishi was trying to hint that Hashi isn't necessarily the strongest one, in other words, the one who will be strong enough to stop Obito.

IMO Naruto is currently on par with Hashi if not stronger, when he will get Kurama other half chakra, he will obviously stronger. It's kinda sick that some people refuse to deal with reality and act like Hashi can solo Naruto low diff. On par is the safest and fair answer, once again I could be wrong.

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Obito started the plan even though he wanted to erase them. Current Naruto with the help of Minato,Tobirama is really dangerous and Obito can't afford to lose. I'm not saying Naruto is anywhere close to Obito but with the help of Minato/Tobi his senjutsu can be deadly dangerous for him.

 

[Transcendence]

Naruto is not on par with SM Hashirama at all. He loses low difficulty to SM. But Base Hashirama is a legitimate debate and Naruto may be able to win that fight.

 

[Zuru]

The only thing I can really say is Naruto is on the level of Hashirama, however I do not believe Naruto could defeat him.

 

[Fodder#4]

Because he still has a grand shot at losing to Base Hashirama. SM Destroys.

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

Naruto is not on par with SM Hashirama at all. He loses low difficulty to SM. But Base Hashirama is a legitimate debate and Naruto may be able to win that fight.

Yeah your words are a lot more trustworthy than from Hashi's brother who fought alongside him all his life.

We still have yet to see what BSM has to offer.

 

[naruttebayo]

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he said better hokage not stronger

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it's about naruto's personality imo

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like when he acknowledged him as a greater fool than hashi

 

[dcamazin1021]

How can you say SM Hashi will have low diff against KSM mode Naruto?

 

[Transcendence]

Yeah your words are a lot more trustworthy than from Hashi's brother who fought alongside him all his life.

We still have yet to see what BSM has to offer.

Tobirama's words indicated not the present, but the future...

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

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he said better hokage not stronger

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it's about naruto's personality imo

Nice try my boy, Naruto is known for his ''stupidity''. I doubt he was talking about anything else but power.

 

[theacknowledgedone]

Right now it seems pretty far fetched that he is stronger than Hashirama and Madara. I mean those two are legends in NV for their power. However, I would probably start to argue Naruto is better when he receives the other half of Kurama.

 

[Lazerus Eks]

Hes not as strong as hashi
but he definitely will become stronger

 

[KidGamer65]

Nothing in those scans shows anything about Naruto's power.

-Tobirama said better Hokage, not stronger Hokage, not to mention he was speaking in future tense, not present tense.

-Tobirama said that fighting with Naruto is like fighting with Hashirama due to him knowing Senjutsu so well.

-Hashirama said that Naruto and Full Kurama's chakra is comparable to his own.


Naruto isn't on par nor has he surpassed Hashirama yet.

 

[Avinash012]

Naruto has a longway to go..................Deal with it.....

 

[-Punk-]

For fvks sake stop overrating Hashimara , GOD! the old noob has been surpassed by a lots of character #Dealwithit.

 

[naruttebayo]

Nice try my boy, Naruto is known for his ''stupidity''. I doubt he was talking about anything else but power.

nope it must be all about personality.

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like when he acknowledged him as a greater fool than hashi.

fools sometimes meant as stubborn ....... naruto is stubborn. he tries & never gives up ...... same as hashi who must have done the same thing ......... even his action against fallen madara were foolish and stubborn.

and i must warn you, in the next chapter naruto will screw up at first (most likely) ..... but he will never stop trying.

 

[SasukeTheViper EMS]

Tobirama was saying that Naruto may become a better Hokage than his brother; not a more powerful one. It is exactly like when Hashirama stated that Itachi is a better Shinobi than himself; a statement that only a halfwit would interpret as an affirmation of the latter being stronger than the former.

 

[Gerkak]

sorry naruto isn't on hashi's level yet.

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

Nothing in those scans shows anything about Naruto's power.

-Tobirama said better Hokage, not stronger Hokage, not to mention he was speaking in future tense, not present tense.

-Tobirama said that fighting with Naruto is like fighting with Hashirama due to him knowing Senjutsu so well.

-Hashirama said that Naruto and Full Kurama's chakra is comparable to his own.


Naruto isn't on par nor has he surpassed Hashirama yet.

- So what being Hokage consist of? Power / Will / Brain
He obviously wasn't talking about the Brainy part, Naruto's intelligence is underrated (and I'm not underrating it either) but Hashi isn't stupid. He was either talking about Power or Will.

- Come on dude what the hell are talking about. He was complimenting Naruto's reaction and combo which reminded him his fights alongside Hashirama. So you are basically saying he reminded him of Hashi because Naruto knew Obito's weakness?

- Show me proof of full Kurama's chakra, naruto was already low in chakra so Minato simply boosted him a bit. And you can't give all your chakra by simply touching fist unless this is an exception since it was Kurama's chakra. The other beasts could only give a little.

 

[KidGamer65]

- So what being Hokage consist of? Power / Will / Brain
He obviously wasn't talking about the Brainy part, Naruto's intelligence is underrated (and I'm not underrating it either) but Hashi isn't stupid. He was either talking about Power or Will.

Being a hokage isn't as simple as the 3 attributes you mentioned, nor does it change the fact that being a good hokage doesn't mean you have to be uber powerful, so you are wrong on this point. Simple as that.

- Come on dude what the hell are talking about. He was complimenting Naruto's reaction and combo which reminded him his fights alongside Hashirama. So you are basically saying he reminded him of Hashi because Naruto knew Obito's weakness?

lmfao, learn to read pal. If you read my post you would clearly know that the bold is exactly what I said. Naruto mastered Senjutsu and knows how to use it well so it reminds him of fighting with Hashirama. Whose post are you reading anyway?

Don't even know where the underlined interpretation came from anyway.

- Show me proof of full Kurama's chakra, naruto was already low in chakra so Minato simply boosted him a bit. And you can't give all your chakra by simply touching fist unless this is an exception since it was Kurama's chakra. The other beasts could only give a little.

Just read this thread, I'm not gonna bother explaining it myself.

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[-Punk-]

Let me just ask you this , What makes you think Hashis sage mode is better than naruto ? Narutos sage mode is like another level of Sage mode just like kabuto DSM .