Why Orochimaru is a bad villain compared to Obito, Madara, Pein...

[Wood Release]

I know coming in, you guys are like WTF Mr. Orochimaru is the best villain we have had in Naruto. I disagree and will explain why. What exactly is an antagonist or a villain to begin with? It is an obstacle that stops the protagonist from achieving a goal. What is Naruto's goal? To become Hokage and World Peace. How does Oro stand in his way? Exactly...

Second Oro has no real back story. He is evil because... he is evil, and likes snakes. Obito lost a loved one which may sound stupid but in actuality it really isn't. Madara was betrayed by him family (clan) and lost his brother for no reason. That would cause hatred. Pein lost a loved one and his family. Sasuke lost his brother, his family and is lost. Oro likes snakes.

Oro isn't a fleshed out character, and in my oppinon he is a bad villain. hbu? discuss debate enjoy

 

[UchihaInza]

ochi was a villian in first series we moved on to better things xd

 

[Omnipotent]

"The antagonist may also represent a major threat or obstacle to the main character by their very existence, without necessarily deliberately targeting him or her"

 

[~MC117~]

That's exactly why I like oro as a villain over those 4, he is evil for the sake of being evil, he would do anything to get what he wants and no BS like *Because you let rin die* :|

ochi was a villian in first series we moved on to better things xd

Obito isn't that better thing though.

 

[Megamkfan]

He made the foundation and basis for all the other villains. He is my favorite villain in the series.

 

[megallica]

no other villain has so much difficulty staying dead.

 

[questin1]

I thought Oro wanted to become Hokage, Naruto wants to become Hokage ^>^ point proven

 

[Kages]

He doesn't have to be evil, he just a good villian.

 

[~MC117~]

Madara still has potential though, I already lost faith in obito but orochimaru is still around and he could end being the main villain.

 

[godzillard]

the people that made orochimaru sad
didnt do anything to him..
he saw them being sad and he became sad...
he didnt understand the purpose of life....no one really does..
but he was always mesmerized by the possibility that anything was possible
like the other villains...sarutobi pressured him to be perfect...
so now he is obsessed

 

[Wood Release]

I thought Oro wanted to become Hokage, Naruto wants to become Hokage ^>^ point proven

Not anymore

 

[soyeongun]

The fragility of human life (the death of his parents, Tsunade's brother and Dan) may have contributed to his way of thinking

 

[Wood Release]

the people that made orochimaru sad
didnt do anything to him..
he saw them being sad and he became sad...
he didnt understand the purpose of life....no one really does..
but he was always mesmerized by the possibility that anything was possible
like the other villains...sarutobi pressured him to be perfect...
so now he is obsessed

I don't understand life, therefore I must live forever. I am not bashing him, I just don't think he is as great as Pein etc.

 

[Wood Release]

He doesn't have to be evil, he just a good villian.

Good point. But he is clearly etched out to be evil.

 

[jiraiya lives]

....how is obito a villain when he want peace through the moon eye plan?....oro is plain f*cking evil, the hell with peace

 

[Aertes]

Apart from being Hokage Naruto wants to protect Konoha and his friends.Oro already tried to destroy Konoha once and took one of his friend.Because we haven't seen it doesn't mean he doesn't have back history.We know that he grew without his parents,he was part of Sarutobi team and a sannin.
Oro doesn't likes snakes, snakes love Oro.
And for me he is the best villain for this reason.He is only moved by his motives.No loved ones,no dead friends,no dream worlds.He sacrifices so many people for pure ambition.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

A good villain is supposed to be pure evil like Oro. Obito and Madara became villains because they were butthurt....

 

[Trollasaur]

If people think Obito is a bad villan because he got friendzoned, STFU Orchimaru went on this rampage of destruction because he didnt become hokage

 

[Salad]

That's exactly why I like oro as a villain over those 4, he is evil for the sake of being evil, he would do anything to get what he wants and no BS like *Because you let rin die* :|



Obito isn't that better thing though.

Exactly, but the person you said that too has a lack of brain cells.
OP a villain is meant to be evil not have some crap sob story behind him...

 

[Dark Artist]

fail thread
how you compare someone like Obito to Orochimaru ?

Obito was villian and start akatsuki and the war for just a freaking girl " because you let rin die " lame reason

madara is another copy of Nagato same idea " i want peace blah blah blah "

while Orochimaru keep trolling the ninja world and he is pure evil

look how he put sharingans in danzo arms and give him senju DNA
same with Yamato same with madara with senju DNA

he use people as a puppets
killed many people for TEST projects

and poisoning the little kids minds

it's kinda funny when you say that he was the first villian and we went to the better villians

first villian = always the best villian

thats why kishi brought him back
because he felts that obito is not that good as villian