Why Obito is the perfect villain?

[deyoers]

As we all know, naruto is main protagonist in the story. though sasuke may seem to be his counterpart, the debate on who was tobi was shut down when it revealed that it was obito. Now the question now is, why would kishi made obito the main (or maybe one of the) antagonists of the story?

These are my answers. Naruto and obito shares common traits when obito was still young.
1. both of them are goofy and easy go lucky. they are the funiest among their groups.
2. both of them had a crush on their female teammates, but their crushes like their other teammates, which both of them seem to hate. naruto hated sasuke in the beginning, same goes for obito who hated kakashi.
3. both desired to surpass their hated teammates, and both had the desire of becoming the hokage one day.
4. both the hated teammates were very serious that rooted from family issues. kakashi due to the shame his dad brought to his family, and sasuke due to his hatred to his brother itachi. but when naruto and obito came to know these issues, they understood them rightaway and somehow wanted to become in good terms with them.
5. both naruto and obito desired to save their troubled teammates in the end despite their past issues.

up to this point, they both are very similar. even when obito was under madara's care, all he ever wanted was to be with his friends again, so that their group would become complete once more. just like naruto, always chasing after sasuke, to make team 7 whole again.

but due to unexpected events, obito chose a different path, probably deceived by madara to become his perfect tool (i could be wrong). obito already lost his most beloved one, so he made a path so blinded just to be with her again. Now naruto is still on his way to saving sasuke, or protecting sakura. he hasnt lost any of them yet, but who knows what would become of naruto if he experiences the same trauma. both of them, naruto and obito were good, always wanted to protect in their friends, always risking their lives, always striving to become the hokage. Obito said himself that naruto reminds him of himself when he was still young.

with these, i suppose kishi wanted us to realize that a path could lead to different roads in the middle. naruto and obito, both sharing the same personalities, but the end could be very different, depending on the turn out of events, or may be, i suppose on how the character chooses his decisions.

please share your thoughts regarging these.
thanks.

 

[Trollo Lucilfer]

he isn't!

 

[xnakelx]

I think you've pretty much hit the nail on the head...very insightful thread

 

[Sabuto Hayashi]

In my honest opinion, Obito isn't the perfect villain.
His motives seem rather off to me. I don't understand why someone like Obito would suddenly become a villain just because Rin died.

For me, Orochimaru was the best villain in the series, followed closely by Itachi/Kisame (if they can even be classed as villains xd).

 

[Fanta]

Yeah they resemble each other ALOT.

 

[all2ss7000sss100sspt09]

exactly as you said! ^_^ its like that movie road to nina kishimoto made foreshadowing the reveal of obito to be connected to naruto

menma and naruto! menma is totally like obito, a dark yet same counterpart of naruto.

even in a reborn state, naruto is like rikudo/younger son

while obito portray more of a uchiha madara/ancestor part like a dark version of rikudo,

one wants peace through love while the other through force (infinite tsukiyomi) totally sees it!

 

[Paintry4]

Ya they both are same at their youths but naruto understood it rather than obito dint realized his duty by seeing his own comrades killed by his own comrades.naruto will never be like obito coz naruto had controlled his dark one.
I think obito will be on allied shinobis if he knows the true reason of kiiling rin by kakashi.

 

[MartinRico]

Hidan was the best viilain!!! As for Obito, he can be easily fooled since he shares a body with Zetsu.

 

[deyoers]

In my honest opinion, Obito isn't the perfect villain.
His motives seem rather off to me. I don't understand why someone like Obito would suddenly become a villain just because Rin died.

For me, Orochimaru was the best villain in the series, followed closely by Itachi/Kisame (if they can even be classed as villains xd).

sorry if my title was a bit misleading. i agree that there could be some other characters who are far better than obito. but the manga, we now see that as we are very close to the end, there are only three main villains in the story. madara, obito, and sasuke if you would consider him. i wouldnt count oro anymore coz he said himself that he doent want any participation in this war anymore. kabuto now seem useless. But the question that everyone was debating before was who was tobi. any now, kishi himself revealed that of all the leading prefered villain, it turn out to be obito. we cannot argue with kishi. all im trying to explain is to why kishi chose or made obito the villain that he is now. thats all.

 

[deyoers]

exactly as you said! ^_^ its like that movie road to nina kishimoto made foreshadowing the reveal of obito to be connected to naruto

menma and naruto! menma is totally like obito, a dark yet same counterpart of naruto.

even in a reborn state, naruto is like rikudo/younger son

while obito portray more of a uchiha madara/ancestor part like a dark version of rikudo,

one wants peace through love while the other through force (infinite tsukiyomi) totally sees it!

Thanks. my point exactly. though the story hasnt ended yet, who knows what would become of obito. would the story end him being the last villain, or would he come to realization that he was used by madara for the execution of his plans. maybe he would realize in the end that he was wrong and would try to make amendments with kakashi. i dont know. i may be wrong. but it could go either way.

 

[deyoers]

Ya they both are same at their youths but naruto understood it rather than obito dint realized his duty by seeing his own comrades killed by his own comrades.naruto will never be like obito coz naruto had controlled his dark one.
I think obito will be on allied shinobis if he knows the true reason of kiiling rin by kakashi.

yes i know. he hasnt realized the truth behind madaras plans. what would happen if he realizes that he was deceived by madara. what if madara was the one who plotted the incedent where kakashi was forced to kill rin. may be once he realizes these, it may be too late to beat madara. but the story could lead to a different ending. as much as i would like to see both sharingans work together, i dont know how this would happen. its either kakashi and obito would fight side by side, or one of them giving the eye to the other as a sacrifice. again, im not sure. and i might get flamed coz of this.

 

[deyoers]

I think you've pretty much hit the nail on the head...very insightful thread

thanks dude. very much appreciate it. XD

 

[deyoers]

Hidan was the best viilain!!! As for Obito, he can be easily fooled since he shares a body with Zetsu.

haha. yeah, i liked hidan too. he was really a bad ass punk.

 

[TrickyDD]

deyoers i think that just like naruto was weaker than sasuke, obito was weaker than kakashi and now Naruto is stronger and Obito is stronger and they are pretty much like each other

 

[Frikid]

Obito ' s reason seems a bit illoical to me.
He trusted a stranger who was kicked out by his own clan.
He changed his way of thinking just coz her friend got killed.
He killed millions of ppl just coz rin died....
I mean c'Mon...
There were alot of chicks he could have got...

 

[deyoers]

deyoers i think that just like naruto was weaker than sasuke, obito was weaker than kakashi and now Naruto is stronger and Obito is stronger and they are pretty much like each other

THIS... thanks

 

[deyoers]

Obito ' s reason seems a bit illoical to me.
He trusted a stranger who was kicked out by his own clan.
He changed his way of thinking just coz her friend got killed.
He killed millions of ppl just coz rin died....
I mean c'Mon...
There were alot of chicks he could have got...

his reasons might be illogical. he may have been a really ****ed up dude, but nevertheless, the only person that he ever cared about died infront of him, by the hands of the very person that he trusted. now this may seem unreasonable to you, and may be to me, but kishi was the one who made this story line. and by it, we can no longer argue.

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

I think you've pretty much hit the nail on the head...very insightful thread

This^ Obito technically isn't even a villain. Even though portayed as one, all he wants is peace and love in the end. And I've said this before, he just has different ways of trying to create this eternal world of peace and harmony just like Itachi and Danzo had different ways of trying to save Konoha. Both ways seemed dark and wrong but they had a good and correct intention in the end.

They say he could've got alot of chicks but stuck with Rin. Well, that's what you call true love. Someone who you can't release from your heart to be exchanged for someone else. That's how Rin was to Obito. For those you that keep on saying this, just imagine your lover being killed infront of your eyes by murderers surrounding you in your hometown or city. Wouldn't you flip and try to bring peace and love to the place where you live? U_U

Both Naruto and young Obito resemble each other without a doubt but the perfect villain has to be Orochimaru, I agree with 'TheOfficialSabuto' and I have a couple of reasons to back this up

 

[Lilvic92]

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That's exactly why Obito is a perfect villain, he's what Naruto could have become if he lost his ninja way like Obito did.
People say that Obito is a bad villain because he's trying to change the world for a girl, this is proof that they fail to see the bigger picture.
If you look back at chapter 606 as Obito is walking towards Rin, he realizes that all of the things that he's believed in was all a lie. Every word Madara had bombarded into Obito's head for months prior to Rin's death were completely true, it's not just about Rin dying, it's about losing principle and being clearly brainwashed. The comrade he once gave his life for and trusted to protect Rin ended up being the one who killed her in cold-blood. Of course he's gonna believe in Madara's nonsense, he got mind-fck'd.

And on another note - whether Rin "loved" Obito back or not really doesn't matter, he loved her and she was his comrade. She also had deep feelings of friendship and caring towards him so all the bashing of him because his love was one-sided is complete bullsh*t

 

[deyoers]

This^ Obito technically isn't even a villain. Even though portayed as one, all he wants is peace and love in the end. And I've said this before, he just has different ways of trying to create this eternal world of peace and harmony just like Itachi and Danzo had different ways of trying to save Konoha. Both ways seemed dark and wrong but they had a good and correct intention in the end.

They say he could've got alot of chicks but stuck with Rin. Well, that's what you call true love. Someone who you can't release from your heart to be exchanged for someone else. That's how Rin was to Obito. For those you that keep on saying this, just imagine your lover being killed infront of your eyes by murderers surrounding you in your hometown or city. Wouldn't you flip and try to bring peace and love to the place where you live? U_U

Both Naruto and young Obito resemble each other without a doubt but the perfect villain has to be Orochimaru, I agree with 'TheOfficialSabuto' and I have a couple of reasons to back this up

again, i aplologize for the misleading title. all im trying to explain is to why kishi made obito the villain that he is right now. no matter how good your intentions are, if the means is wrong and dark as you say it is, then thats the very reason why naruto and others, who are the good guys if i might add, are fighting obito alongside madara and the jubii. his ways are the reason why he is the villain, or one of the villains in the story. and also, i want to reiterate on the fact that i agree with you guys that there are some others who are far more close to a perfect villain, like the ones of oro, or madara, or sasuke.