Why Night Guy & Kamui work on Truth-seeking...

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Night guy

Like a young crimson dragon cutting through the space fabric the ultimate flying-kick!!

Might Guy utilizes the Taijutsu move, inherited from his father - “the Eight Celestial Gates”. To unravel the final dragon mystery you have to open the last ”Death Gate” and sacrifice your life. From the red stream emission (Guy s blood and Chakra. TN), in a form of a red burning Chakra the great dragon rises, flying out of the rib cage, absolutely unprecedented kick that hits the opponent and beats him into nothing. It's power is off limits, overturns the knowledge of anything that Taijutsu is capable off, it twists and bends the sky itself on contact, even right side of the body of the strongest Ninja Madara was completely destroyed.

Flying above the heavens the great dragon that holds your life or death (destiny) in his claws! But, Guy easily commits his life and passes his will of fire to the next generation young leafs!

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Night guy is more like a black hole that Madara tanked not a simple taijutsu kick.

Kamui is just like Night guy it distorts space.
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The truth seeking balls are similar. See below nothing is left after the truth seeking ball touched it.
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Kamui and Night Guy are parallel, Kishi does this all the time with characters giving them parallel or opposing powers. Kamui, Night Guy, & the Truth Seeking balls are technically the same thing all god-like powers.
 
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Another thread... One would just think you could put this in your other one, or the original of Madaras Legs. Oh well...
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Its because that ball unable to seek the truth because S/T distort it pathway to truth
 

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Nice comparison. +rep
 

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You're over-complicating it. Night Guy worked because it was Taijutsu. Onymoudon enhance TSB's only negate Ninjutsu. Kamui isn't "ninjutsu" in the conventional sense. You use chakra to channel the vortex through the eye but the actual space distortion isn't chakra. It's an actual connection to another dimension and it's not chakra, so the TSB's can't negate it.
 

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You're over-complicating it. Night Guy worked because it was Taijutsu. Onymoudon enhance TSB's only negate Ninjutsu. Kamui isn't "ninjutsu" in the conventional sense. You use chakra to channel the vortex through the eye but the actual space distortion isn't chakra. It's an actual connection to another dimension and it's not chakra, so the TSB's can't negate it.

Taijutsus doesn't work on TSB, the Taijutsu user turns to dust the second they touch the TSB.
 

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No, i'm saying that anything that touches the Goudama turns into dust unless it has senjutsu.

Provide a manga scan for that. Because IIRC that only had to do with Onmyoudon. And Onmyoudon only was said to negate non-Senjutsu enhanced Ninjutsu. Edo Tensei is an example of a resurrection Ninjutsu (for lack of a better description) and that's how Minato's armed was basically turned to dust. I remember Gai being able to punch Madara's bodily Gudoudama and it working. But I'm open to being swayed if you can prove it.
 

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Provide a manga scan for that. Because IIRC that only had to do with Onmyoudon. And Onmyoudon only was said to negate non-Senjutsu enhanced Ninjutsu. Edo Tensei is an example of a resurrection Ninjutsu (for lack of a better description) and that's how Minato's armed was basically turned to dust. I remember Gai being able to punch Madara's bodily Gudoudama and it working. But I'm open to being swayed if you can prove it.

Gai never came into contact with any Truth-Seeking Spheres. He forced Madara through, which is why it broke.
 

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You're over-complicating it. Night Guy worked because it was Taijutsu. Onymoudon enhance TSB's only negate Ninjutsu. Kamui isn't "ninjutsu" in the conventional sense. You use chakra to channel the vortex through the eye but the actual space distortion isn't chakra. It's an actual connection to another dimension and it's not chakra, so the TSB's can't negate it.

Nah it's not that simple. Taijutsu doesn't work on the truth-seeking balls. If one were to touch them the part of the body they touched them with would "disappear".

Kamui is space-time manipulation well I believe Onmyodon is something similar with Yin-yang release. Space & time are opposite forces like yin & yang.

The truth seeking balls can already negate ninjutsu before Onmyodon remember Tobirama's infinite explosions had no effect, then Sasuke's susanoo palm was deleted.

Onmyodon is something else.
 

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Provide a manga scan for that. Because IIRC that only had to do with Onmyoudon. And Onmyoudon only was said to negate non-Senjutsu enhanced Ninjutsu. Edo Tensei is an example of a resurrection Ninjutsu (for lack of a better description) and that's how Minato's armed was basically turned to dust. I remember Gai being able to punch Madara's bodily Gudoudama and it working. But I'm open to being swayed if you can prove it.

It works like jinton, it turns everything to dust, it doesn't matter if it's a jutsu or not.
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Oh and Gai never touched the Goudama, he used Madara's body to push through it.
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The point is taijutsu doesn't work I got tired of people making such ridiculous claims.
 

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Well I found out most they translation are wrong night moth was in a raw copy I found in google translation night moth stands for death night guy is not even Gai's name guy and gai are two different things.
You can read Japanese?
 
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