Why Nagato is superior to Itachi

[pateuvasiliu]

Only Nagato without mobility, itachi would come on top.

Even that's debatable. Itachi isn't destroying Chibaku Tensei alone.

 

[KidGamer65]

Nagato can beat Itachi but CST isn't destroying Final Susanoo.

 

[Murasame]

Even that's debatable. Itachi isn't destroying Chibaku Tensei alone.

Yes he wouldn't but just please read my previous post please. I'm not going to write a whole paragraph again..

Only Nagato without mobility, itachi would come on top.

And Nagato with Mobility is still debatable as he couldnt react to Amaterasu and Totsuka Blade. But it'd be closer in this Situation I consider them equals in this situation and any wrong move from both Shinob's can cost them the match. Its intelligence plus skill vs raw power not saying Nagato is dumb because he's smart just not as smart and skilled as itachi

 

[Murasame]

Nagato can beat Itachi but CST isn't destroying Final Susanoo.

True. But Keep in mind that Itachi has more of a chance to defeat Nagato if he is immobile but if he was mobile it'd be a pretty damn close fight. Refer to my previous posts please.

 

[King-Panda]

Yes he wouldn't but just please read my previous post please. I'm not going to write a whole paragraph again..


And Nagato with Mobility is still debatable as he couldnt react to Amaterasu and Totsuka Blade. But it'd be closer in this Situation I consider them equals in this situation and any wrong move from both Shinob's can cost them the match. Its intelligence plus skill vs raw power not saying Nagato is dumb because he's smart just not as smart and skilled as itachi

In this thread I stated how he would stop amaterasu, shinra tensei... And I think he can absorb it too since it's a jutsu... but yes, can't say for sure nagato would win easily, but would have many difficulties

 

[KidGamer65]

Yeah but also keep in mind that Nagato with the Six Paths of Pain wouldnt go that far just to defeat one person.. I doubt he'd strain himself by using The Large Scale Shinra tensei to defeat Itachi.. He only used it to destroy the Village and it hasn't been used since. Same goes for CT Nagato isnt going to hurt himself and go that far just to kill one person. Madara only used the Meteors against the shinobi alliance too. These Rinnegan techniques are good for fighting large scale destruction and against alot of enemies but these techniques were used when fighting alot of people. Exception when Naruto was going crazy mad when Pain stabbed Hinata and when he was fighting three top tier ninja iatchi, naruto, and bee but i already explained that fight in my previous post.. Like I said Itachi vs Nagato Itachi comes out on top with alot of difficulty maybe losing at times it would be close and can go either way but Nagato is one person and is immobile which is much easier than fighting 6 dead bodies that dont feel pain. Itachi would most likely lose that match up just because of Chakra and Stamina but hey if Itachi was healthy that'd be a different story but we'll never know.

edit: keep in mind that yes the slugs helped out people but it didnt for everybody some people had broken legs and others were fine. So Im pretty sure Final Susanoo with the shield can defend and even if it is broken it would still end up saving Itachi but like I said I dont think alive nagato with six paths of pain would strain himself that far to kill one person and if Itachi survived Deva Path would lose his powers and Itachi would probably come out victorious in that scenario because the strongest path doesnt have his powers

That logic is flawed, Nagato will do whatever he needs to do to win, if he needs CT he will use it.

-Amaterasu is deflected with Shinra Tensei or sensed and absorbed via Preta Path.
-Ninjutsu are absorbed.
-Susanoo is busted using the Gedo Mazo w/Bijuu or Chibaku Tensei.
-Genjutsu is countered with the Rinnegan's linked vision between Paths and Summons.
-If Itachi gets close, a Shinra Tensei or the Mazo sends him flying backwards.

Itachi can't spam Amaterasu like he can in Edo form so dealing with the Animal Summon spam will be difficult.

All in all, Itachi can't win, against a mobile or immobile Nagato.

 

[King-Panda]

That logic is flawed, Nagato will do whatever he needs to do to win, if he needs CT he will use it.

-Amaterasu is deflected with Shinra Tensei or sensed and absorbed via Preta Path.
-Ninjutsu are absorbed.
-Susanoo is busted using the Gedo Mazo w/Bijuu or Chibaku Tensei.
-Genjutsu is countered with the Rinnegan's linked vision between Paths and Summons.

All in all, Itachi can't win, against a mobile or immobile Nagato.

You again and that's what am trying to say, although immobile nagato vs itachi would be closer, nagato would need to be smart here and don't let itachi be smarter, but nagato with mobility beats itachi, with some difficulties

 

[Murasame]

That logic is flawed, Nagato will do whatever he needs to do to win, if he needs CT he will use it.

-Amaterasu is deflected with Shinra Tensei or sensed and absorbed via Preta Path.
-Ninjutsu are absorbed.
-Susanoo is busted using the Gedo Mazo w/Bijuu or Chibaku Tensei.
-Genjutsu is countered with the Rinnegan's linked vision between Paths and Summons.
-If Itachi gets close, a Shinra Tensei or the Mazo sends him flying backwards.

Itachi can't spam Amaterasu like he can in Edo form so dealing with the Animal Summon spam will be difficult.

All in all, Itachi can't win, against a mobile or immobile Nagato.

:sy: Dear God.. LIKE I SAID if you read my previous posts Nagato couldnt react to Amaterasu even when he was on auto pilot and was set to react to any attacks and to counter with an appropriate method. Jeez dont make me repeat myself.
Youre just making a perfect Scenario for Nagato to win. You say Nagato would win because of CT and would do anything to win well guess what youre not Nagato and youre not Kishi. I'm basing what I say from what I saw in the manga and Nagato's actions.. If what you say was true he wouldve came out victorious. Besides If Nagato had been alive he wouldnt have been able to use CT because Itachi ripped his arm off with his Susanoo hand. That wouldve been the end of the fight there too. Not to mention the fact he got sealed with the Tostuka Blade to which he couldnt REACT. Itachi basically beat him three times. My logic is not flawed if I based it off from the manga while youre playing a perfect scenario for nagato in your head. Genjustu will probably not work I agree but maybe Tsukoyumi maybe can if he catches him but he probably doesnt need that. And who's to say that Itachi cant seal the Gedo Mazo? Besides if Nagato does those rods will go into his back and he wont be able to move making him an easy target. Susanoo will defend against shinra tensei Ive already said so but I had to repeat myself just for you.. Please read all my posts before saying anything.. I hate restating what I've said. I'm tired of the Itachi threads just please move on Nagato is already sealed and you cant do anything about it. If youre going to complain then go complain to Kishi for having Itachi win. You can argue all you want but it doesnt change the fact Itachi won. Like I said Itachi can beat Nagato immobile or mobile it would a very high difficult match and can go either way. Itachi would most likely lose to Six Paths though because of illness that makes him probably have low chakra and stamia. Healthy itachi that can go either way Idk but Im done here Im sick of Itachi threads and Im an Itachi fan myself..

 

[KidGamer65]

:sy: Dear God.. LIKE I SAID if you read my previous posts Nagato couldnt react to Amaterasu even when he was on auto pilot and was set to react to any attacks and to counter with an appropriate method. Jeez dont make me repeat myself.

Nagato didn't know the attack was coming for him thus naturally he wouldn't be able to react. Read the manga before stating such ridiculous things.

Youre just making a perfect Scenario for Nagato to win. You say Nagato would win because of CT and would do anything to win well guess what youre not Nagato and youre not Kishi. I'm basing what I say from what I saw in the manga and Nagato's actions.. If what you say was true he wouldve came out victorious. Besides If Nagato had been alive he wouldnt have been able to use CT because Itachi ripped his arm off with CT. That wouldve been the end of the fight there too. Not to mention the fact he got sealed with the Tostuka Blade to which he couldnt REACT. Itachi basically beat him three times. My logic is not flawed if I based it off from the manga while youre playing a perfect scenario for nagato in your head. Genjustu will probably not work I agree but maybe Tsukoyumi maybe can if he catches him but he probably doesnt need that. And who's to say that Itachi cant seal the Gedo Mazo? Besides if Nagato does those rods will go into his back and he wont be able to move making him an easy target. Susanoo will defend against shinra tensei Ive already so but I had to repeat myself just for you.. Please read all my posts before saying anything.. I hate restating what I've said. I'm tired of the Itachi threads just please move on Nagato is already sealed and you cant do anything about it. If youre going to complain then go complain to Kishi for having Itachi win. You can argue all you want but it doesnt change the fact Itachi won. Like I said Itachi can beat Nagato immobile or mobile it would a very high difficult match and can go either way. Itachi would most likely lose to Six Paths though because of illness that makes him probably have low chakra and stamia. Healthy itachi that can go either way Idk but Im done here Im sick of Itachi threads and Im an Itachi fan myself..

Your logic is piss poor and its flawed. You know CT would KO Itachi so you're trying to BS your way out of countering it (Since you can't) Listen up here, understand this before debating a VS thread ever again. This is not the manga, this is VS thread where character's will do what they need to do to win. You sound dumb saying Nagato has a way to win but use it. Half this shit post of yours it you bitching about the fight in the manga, which we aren't even talking about. Show me where I made a scenario? Oh wait you can't because I didn't. Just stop debating period cause a lot of stuff you say is BS.

Nagato couldn't react to Totsuka because he didn't see it coming smart stuff. Nagato doesn't need to dodge when he can repel it with Shinra Tensei. Totsuka isn't sealing the Mazo+7 Bijuu, only in a fanboys dream. The Soul Dragon causes him to stick the rods in his back not the summoning of Gedo Mazo. Read the manga.

CT destroys him or the Mazo destroys him. Nagato wins mid diff at most.

@bold: Everything in bold is you bitching about irrelevant stuff. Itachi beat Nagato? Itachi, Bee AND Naruto beat Nagato. You spout the same shit all Itachi fanboys spout.

Come back when you have legit counters and not a load of BS.

 

[King-Panda]

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Another itachi fanboy, that just knows "itachi>...." reasons to support it?? Are all 0

:sy: Dear God.. LIKE I SAID if you read my previous posts Nagato couldnt react to Amaterasu even when he was on auto pilot and was set to react to any attacks and to counter with an appropriate method. Jeez dont make me repeat myself.
Youre just making a perfect Scenario for Nagato to win. You say Nagato would win because of CT and would do anything to win well guess what youre not Nagato and youre not Kishi. I'm basing what I say from what I saw in the manga and Nagato's actions.. If what you say was true he wouldve came out victorious. Besides If Nagato had been alive he wouldnt have been able to use CT because Itachi ripped his arm off with his Susanoo hand. That wouldve been the end of the fight there too. Not to mention the fact he got sealed with the Tostuka Blade to which he couldnt REACT. Itachi basically beat him three times. My logic is not flawed if I based it off from the manga while youre playing a perfect scenario for nagato in your head. Genjustu will probably not work I agree but maybe Tsukoyumi maybe can if he catches him but he probably doesnt need that. And who's to say that Itachi cant seal the Gedo Mazo? Besides if Nagato does those rods will go into his back and he wont be able to move making him an easy target. Susanoo will defend against shinra tensei Ive already said so but I had to repeat myself just for you.. Please read all my posts before saying anything.. I hate restating what I've said. I'm tired of the Itachi threads just please move on Nagato is already sealed and you cant do anything about it. If youre going to complain then go complain to Kishi for having Itachi win. You can argue all you want but it doesnt change the fact Itachi won. Like I said Itachi can beat Nagato immobile or mobile it would a very high difficult match and can go either way. Itachi would most likely lose to Six Paths though because of illness that makes him probably have low chakra and stamia. Healthy itachi that can go either way Idk but Im done here Im sick of Itachi threads and Im an Itachi fan myself..

So many people in NB are itachi fanboys and think he's invincible, which annoy others and that isn't even itachi fault or its fans, just fanboys.... Itachi this, itachi that, itachi itachi... You talk about what itachi can do, and what nagato can't, but what about think what nagato can do and itachi would be in trouble???

 

[Murasame]

Another itachi fanboy, that just knows "itachi>...." reasons to support it?? Are all 0

So many people in NB are itachi fanboys and think he's invincible, which annoy others and that isn't even itachi fault or its fans, just fanboys.... Itachi this, itachi that, itachi itachi... You talk about what itachi can do, and what nagato can't, but what about think what nagato can do and itachi would be in trouble???

Dumb*** how am I being a fanboy when I brought paragraphs of proof? I didnt say Itachi wins cuz hes a god or something. I know his limits.

Nagato didn't know the attack was coming for him thus naturally he wouldn't be able to react. Read the manga before stating such ridiculous things.

Again you fail so bad.. I thought you knew that nagato could sense amaterasu and he still couldnt react. How about you read the manga before you make ridiculous statements.

Your logic is piss poor and its flawed. You know CT would KO Itachi so you're trying to BS your way out of countering it (Since you can't) Listen up here, understand this before debating a VS thread ever again. This is not the manga, this is VS thread where character's will do what they need to do to win. You sound dumb saying Nagato has a way to win but use it. Half this shit post of yours it you bitching about the fight in the manga, which we aren't even talking about. Show me where I made a scenario? Oh wait you can't because I didn't. Just stop debating period cause a lot of stuff you say is BS.

Who said anything about me bitching when Itachi won the fight? Show me where I'm bitching at? And this is what you fail to understand.. I never said Itachi wouldnt get ko'ed by CT? What I'm trying to say is that Nagato wouldnt get the chance to use CT because Itachi would finish him off before he gets the chance to. Please read my posts and understand what I'm trying to say instead of interpreting it for something else.. And yeah you did make a scenario because you think Nagato would automatically use CT and win just simple as that.

Nagato couldn't react to Totsuka because he didn't see it coming smart stuff. Nagato doesn't need to dodge when he can repel it with Shinra Tensei. Totsuka isn't sealing the Mazo+7 Bijuu, only in a fanboys dream. The Soul Dragon causes him to stick the rods in his back not the summoning of Gedo Mazo. Read the manga.

Whose fault is it? Nagatos. If he couldnt see it then what you can do about it that shows he couldnt do anything. And who said Nagato possesses what obito has? The Gedo Mazo is now gone. Its the Jubi now. Also can you show proof that the rods only went in his back just because of the Soul Dragon?

CT destroys him or the Mazo destroys him. Nagato wins mid diff at most.

Doesnt get the chance to summon Mazo or use CT.

@bold: Everything in bold is you bitching about irrelevant stuff. Itachi beat Nagato? Itachi, Bee AND Naruto beat Nagato. You spout the same shit all Itachi fanboys spout.

Come back when you have legit counters and not a load of BS.

Nope Itachi wouldve killed him twice himself if it wasnt for Nagato being edo. That was the only reason why Nagato got to live up to the point to use CT and thats when Naruto and bee went in to help. Please Nagato never touched Itachi once.

 

[SasukeNamikaze]

Gonna give tachi fans some ammo

Totsuka blade was said to seal anything it pierces (not slices). So he could seal up chibaku tensei

 

[Penguin]

Yeah Nagato is stronger than Itachi due to the fact he has superior eyes.
Lets take away both sets of eyes and see who wins then.

Itachi is still a genius prodigy without the Sharingan and Nagato wouldn't even be in the show.

Without Rinnegan Nagato is still a top tier Ninja. Not all of his jutsu are coordnated around the Rinnegan. Itachi on the other hand is not that great without his sharingan. No Amataresu and Susano'o would make Itachi weak. Itachi without visiual genjutsu is even worse. His genjutsu is Itachi's best skill.

 

[KidGamer65]

Again you fail so bad.. I thought you knew that nagato could sense amaterasu and he still couldnt react. How about you read the manga before you make ridiculous statements.

He sensed it and could react to it, but didn't as he didn't know it was coming for him. He thought he was going for Naruto or Bee. Please Read the manga before stating BS like this.

Who said anything about me bitching when Itachi won the fight? Show me where I'm bitching at? And this is what you fail to understand.. I never said Itachi wouldnt get ko'ed by CT? What I'm trying to say is that Nagato wouldnt get the chance to use CT because Itachi would finish him off before he gets the chance to. Please read my posts and understand what I'm trying to say instead of interpreting it for something else.. And yeah you did make a scenario because you think Nagato would automatically use CT and win just simple as that.

Everything in the bold is you bitching. Bold shows that you're a fanboy, Itachi can't finish him off before he uses CT because: 1. He can start off with it. 2. He can counter anything Itachi throws at him. Nope. I listed Nagato's counters to Itachi's moves. Get your selective reading goggles off.

Whose fault is it? Nagatos. If he couldnt see it then what you can do about it that shows he couldnt do anything. And who said Nagato possesses what obito has? The Gedo Mazo is now gone. Its the
Jubi now. Also can you show proof that the rods only went in his back just because of the Soul Dragon?

What an idiot, Nagato can summon the Gedo thus he can use the Gedo with Bijuu. The Mazo may be gone but this isn't about current time now is it? Just you trying to BS your way out of countering.

:sy: The rods sucked up his chakra and then the Soul Dragon fired thus it was for the soul dragon.

Doesnt get the chance to summon Mazo or use CT.

Yet you've failed to show how Itachi would beat him. Spare me your stupidity Itachi tard.

Nope Itachi wouldve killed him twice himself if it wasnt for Nagato being edo. That was the only reason why Nagato got to live up to the point to use CT and thats when Naruto and bee went in to help. Please Nagato never touched Itachi once.

Manga>You. Naruto, Itachi, and Bee had to take care of Nagato. Never would have been hit by Itachi if he was paying attention to him. If Naruto and Bee weren't there he would know Amaterasu would be coming for him so he would be able to counter.

Like I said, when you come back with legit counters and not fanboy BS then we can debate, for now its just me shutting down every BS post you make.

 

[KidGamer65]

Without Rinnegan Nagato is still a top tier Ninja. Not all of his jutsu are coordnated around the Rinnegan. Itachi on the other hand is not that great without his sharingan. No Amataresu and Susano'o would make Itachi weak. Itachi without visiual genjutsu is even worse. His genjutsu is Itachi's best skill.

Nagato is a fodder without the Rinnegan.

 

[Serotonin]

Without Rinnegan Nagato is still a top tier Ninja. Not all of his jutsu are coordnated around the Rinnegan. Itachi on the other hand is not that great without his sharingan. No Amataresu and Susano'o would make Itachi weak. Itachi without visiual genjutsu is even worse. His genjutsu is Itachi's best skill.

Nagato with out rinegan is a crippled ginger who can move.

Itachi without shraingan is still a mobile genius

 

[Penguin]

Nagato with out rinegan is a crippled ginger who can move.

Itachi without shraingan is still a mobile genius

Nagato was crippled because of his Rinnegan. He still had great chakra reserves without the Rinnegan, but Itachi has really bad stamina and his genjutsu would be non existant without the sharingan. Plus Itachi would not be invincible anymore because no more Susano'o or Amatesaru.

 

[Penguin]

Nagato is a fodder without the Rinnegan.

How so?

 

[Kages]

I agree

 

[Penguin]

Nagato sucks shit

Any reason behind said comment? That's not nice :/