Why Minato used the Shiki Fujin to seal half of the Kyubi permanently?

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We know that Minato decided to use the Shiki Fujin to seal half of the Kyubi away along with him permanently, but i don't really understand why he decided to use Shiki Fujin and die when he could have used another seal without dying like the Eight Trigrams Seal for example. It's even the question Kushina ask him: "But Why... Why the Dead Demon Seal. There is no reason for you to die"(meaning he could have used something else):
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And from my point of view, she is right, i still don't understand why he decided to die. I think the reason he gave about to preserve the balance of Tailed Beast is really BS

Especially when we see that Eight Trigram Seal was powerful enough to seal the other half in Naruto:
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What do you think?
 
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It was the only seal strong enough, she was most likely hysterical and didnt wamt him to die.
 

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It was the only seal strong enough, she was most likely hysterical and didnt wamt him to die.
I doubt since he was able to seal the other half with Eight Trigram Seals without problem, and you don't need to die to use that technique
 

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I do not know but maybe is the 8 trigram seal or the iron seal not strong enough to bind the kyuubi without the mokuton which weakens the Kyuubi. Also, the seal would last longer imo which is needed since kyuubi is full of hatred :( so the jinchuriki would not become friends with it fast (that naruto did was so..unexpected :p )
 

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I was wondering too .. Why Minato why? lol
 

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I do not know but maybe is the 8 trigram seal or the iron seal not strong enough to bind the kyuubi without the mokuton which weakens the Kyuubi. Also, the seal would last longer imo which is needed since kyuubi is full of hatred :(
It's the Eight Trigrams Seal he used to seal the Kyubi inside Naruto. Why didn't he used it to seal the other half inside him for example?
 

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It's the Eight Trigrams Seal he used to seal the Kyubi inside Naruto. Why didn't he used it to seal the other half inside him for example?
Ah now I got it!^^ Sorry :)
So then I think it's quite hard to seal something in an dead body or the Kyuubi yin/yang (forgot which half he sealed in himself) Also he had to rip Kyuubis chakra in half, and the half has still a free will and could find a way to break the seal without a jinchuriki which restricts it. So it was more sure to seal it with the demon seal. It is still the Kyuubi. Another argumentation: since I forgot which side he sealed in himself: Yin and yang are together... every time, so maybe the chakra would adduct to each other and break the seals, something like that
 

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One does not simply seals a bijuu without people dieing.
 

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We know that Minato decided to use the Shiki Fujin to seal half of the Kyubi away along with him permanently, but i don't really understand why he decided to use Shiki Fujin and die when he could have used another seal without dying like the Eight Trigrams Seal for example. It's even the question Kushina ask him: "But Why... Why the Dead Demon Seal. There is no reason for you to die"(meaning he could have used something else):
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And from my point of vue, she is right, i still don't understand why he decided to die. I think the reason he gave about to preserve the balance of Tailed Beast is really BS

Especially when we see that Eight Trigram Seal was powerful enough to seal the other half in Naruto:
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What do you think?


i think naruto was the onlyone that can be a container of the fox at that moment. however its imposible for a child to seal all of kuramas chakra into narutos body thats why he used DDS to seal half of the fox in minato. minato dont want tobi to have half of kuramas chakra that will remain unseald if he didnt do it.

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minato had to die because of this
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i think naruto was the onlyone that can be a container of the fox at that moment. however its imposible for a child to seal all of kuramas chakra into narutos body thats why he used DDS to seal half of the fox in minato. minato dont want tobi to have half of kuramas chakra that will remain unseald if he didnt do it.

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Hum, maybe it's possible. Good theory :)
 

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yes . exactly .
some times i wonder why

i think as minato was dead at the start of series ,
so kishi had to kill him by any sort of plot no jutsu .
that's why he died . there is no other way i can think of
 

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@Ulquiorra dats a very outstandin reason

@bogard kishi had to make naruto an orphan, u knw most heroes r orphans ryt, so kishi just killed them both 2 make d story touching and so dat naruto can hv a reason 2 get strong

OT: minato had so many choices lyk leave dat red tomato die and wen d rebirth of d 9tails is due, then seal d complete 9tails in a grown up naruto. so minato wud just fetch very little of kushinas chakra in naruto, atleast they cud say hi to each oda
 

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i think naruto was the onlyone that can be a container of the fox at that moment. however its imposible for a child to seal all of kuramas chakra into narutos body thats why he used DDS to seal half of the fox in minato. minato dont want tobi to have half of kuramas chakra that will remain unseald if he didnt do it.

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i think the same
 

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Kyuubi was too storng to be controlled anyway so sealing half of him was a good idea, moreover kushina would die and minato would survive but minato wanted naruto to meet his mom so he happily sacrificed himself. It was not necessary for him to die though, agreed. I loved this part, nearly cried too.. nearly :p
 

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He just didnt want to live without Kushina.There is no otr reason.
 

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Minato was a S/T user and the fastest so not a candidate for KIA.

Minato was too young for Death by old Age.

Minato usually fodderizzed Kage level Nins or Perfect Jinchurikis.

Minato was too strong for Akatsuki to function the way they did.

Minato was a Flash-Fodder-Killer so the Coup d'état was out of the question.

I guess you see my point ;)
 

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Easy. By using the Dead Demon Seal, Minato can pick apart the Kyuubi and rip off half of his power. (Fact: When only Orochimaru's arms were sealed)

However, Eight Trigrams Sealing Technique will seal the whole mass of the Kyuubi, as we have seen when the Kyuubi was sealed inside Naruto.

If Minato immediately used the Eight Trigrams Seal on himself, then the whole mass of the Kyuubi will be sealed in him, which, in my opinion, very dangerous for the Kyuubi might eventually escape and break loose once again and that the host may die. Same thinking applies if Minato immediately used the Eight Trigrams on Naruto to seal the whole mass of the Kyuubi.

By using Shiki Fujin first, Minato can strip away parts of the Kyuubi's soul, depleting the Kyuubi's power to half, which would not be possible with Eight Trigrams Sealing technique as it seals the whole mass. After Minato stripped away half of the Kyuubi's power with Shiki Fujin, it was then possible to seal the whole Kyuubi at half power inside Naruto.

Or it could also be possible that a host can be sealed with a full-powered Bijuu, but Minato decided to seal only half of the Kyuubi, since Naruto is only a baby back then. However, stripping the Kyuubi's power to half is not possible without the use of Shiki Fujin.

Simple logic.
 
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