Why Minato > Itachi - The Analysis.

[Kinimaster]

excuse? i think what?

itachi is in no way = jiraya... at most sm jiraya can stand ground with him, but jiraya will never.. i repeat never be able to enter sm mode in a fight with itachi

itachi vs immortal + edo tensei oro?
immortal oro? what is this? some new kind of oro?

and DO YOU REALLY need my word on this ? Oro while having edo tensei said " getting uchiha itachi's body is impossible, he is stronger than me"

once a character says that shit, what more could you possibly need? do you think orochimaru doesn't know his limits after getting beaten by a 13 year old?


kabuto is not orochimaru.. , kabuto is nothing like orochimaru anymore.. next


tsunade? do realize that it is 5 kages... stop talking crap... if it was edo madara vs tsunade she'd be dead a long LONG TIME ago

Man why bother, let them have this thread to make them feel their character is greater, i mean they have failed in every GOOD thread about this fight and every other top character fight like vs Nagato(that was for the lolz really..), they are by far the worst fanboys on the base, i know they are kind of annoyed or pissed that most people dont think Minato is that good lol, so let them have their fun here and go read something more interesting.

 

[Minator93]

Itachi also said that even with more back up the outcome of fight would change. I dont treat those words seriously, there is no way that Jiraiya would be able to win against at least two Akatsuki teams.

Okay but what about the thing said by Kisame or NAGATO ??

 

[Owarij]

1. Itachi said that If he goes up against J-man he'll die and he was completely oblivious to the fact that J-man has the SM

2. Kisame said that if the 2 akatsuki went up against J-man then the last members of the uchiha clan and 7 swordsmen of the mist will have their names dragged through the mud.

3. Nagato himself confessed that J-man would've won if he knew the secrets of pain...you know what that Means...It means with Info J-man > Nagato.

Don't underestimate Jiraya

1) itachi said that to stop kisame from engaging in fights that HE DID NOT GO TO KONOHA IN THE FIRST PLACE TO DO
did you see what itachi said?
that even if they got more akatsuki member backup, it would be the same outcome?
HAHHAHAHAH i would love to see jiraya win again itachi,kisame,nagato, sasori

You're taking the bs that itachi spewed to kisame who knew nothing of jirayas abilities as fact

if itachi wanted to kill jiraya, he coulda have EASILY amaterasu'd him in that dumb hallway, even kisame asked him wtf was going on


2) Itachi doesn't know jiraya had sm ? Yea total assumption on your part.... we do know one thing though, after seeing recent chapters itachi DOES know about sage mode

3) Nagato said he MIGHT have one, and please do understand that deva path pein was horribly nerfed in that fight , how? well 1 , he couldn't use chibaku tensei or shinra tensei or any major jutsu.. why? well firstly, using any of those jutsu's would kill tons of amagekarue ninja , 2) using any of those jutsu would collapse the tower that skinny/crippled nagato was (at the top) thus he would kill him self

so the answer? yes, jiraya MIGHT have had a chance to defeat pain who could not use his strongest jutsu

in any open battlefield, on chibaku tensei and jiraya is a squashed frog , if you really think jiraya can beat nagato or pain, you're crazy

4) what did kisame know about jiraya again? he knew nothing, he was simply going off the title of sannin

 

[Turson]

Okay but what about the thing said by Kisame or NAGATO ??

Kisame just said that they dont have reputation like Sannins, but reputation wont win fights for you. Itachi proved that when he pwned another Sannin, who was also way more famous than him.

As for Pain, Deva path alone was enough to own SM Naruto and bunch of his frogs. It should be clear by now that if Jiraiya was facing all Six full powered Paths of Pain from the very beginning of the fight he would be raped terribly.

 

[Minator93]

excuse? i think what?

itachi is in no way = jiraya... at most sm jiraya can stand ground with him, but jiraya will never.. i repeat never be able to enter sm mode in a fight with itachi

itachi vs immortal + edo tensei oro?
immortal oro? what is this? some new kind of oro?

and DO YOU REALLY need my word on this ? Oro while having edo tensei said " getting uchiha itachi's body is impossible, he is stronger than me"

once a character says that shit, what more could you possibly need? do you think orochimaru doesn't know his limits after getting beaten by a 13 year old?


kabuto is not orochimaru.. , kabuto is nothing like orochimaru anymore.. next


tsunade? do realize that it is 5 kages... stop talking crap... if it was edo madara vs tsunade she'd be dead a long LONG TIME ago

AT that time Oro had lost his arms and the ability to perform Ninjutsu thanks to Hiruzen.

Also oro was in a weakened state in the part 2...he wanted a new body...and that's why Sasuke absorbed him...Sasuke even admitted to that.

Get your facts straight.

Kisame just said that they dont have reputation like Sannins, but reputation wont win fights for you. Itachi proved that when he pwned another Sannin, who was also way more famous than him.

As for Pain, Deva path alone was enough to own SM Naruto and bunch of his frogs. It should be clear by now that if Jiraiya was facing all Six full powered Paths of Pain from the very beginning of the fight he would be raped terribly.

Jiraya has tons of different jutsus that Naruto doesn't...also it doesn't necessarily mean that Naruto > Jiraya because he had SM Mastered better. Plus with Pain vs Naruto, Nagato didn't want to kill him but capture him, but with J-man it was a fight to kill.

 

[Owarij]

AT that time Oro had lost his arms and the ability to perform Ninjutsu thanks to Hiruzen.

Also oro was in a weakened state in the part 2...he wanted a new body...and that's why Sasuke absorbed him...Sasuke even admitted to that.

Get your facts straight.

oro wasn't speaking at just that time... he meant he could never go after itachi's body because he is simply weaker than him... he tried once.. he failed

please make a itachi vs oro versus thread let me destroy you quickly

/sigh

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

itachi and kisame conversation about j-man its completely wrong/miss translation

and its confirmed by kirin rei

Kisame - You could somehow win, but I couldn't stand up to such an opponent for more than a couple of minutes... It's on a completely different level.
Itachi - Ah... Either (we) both (he says both/two, meaning him and Kisame) would die, or it would be a draw... The result wouldn't change even if we increased our numbers.
Kisame - It was good that we found him at the ramen shop... And he has one of the Legendary Sannin as a lucky charm. That guy (Jiraiya) might be a fair match for the strongest Uchiha from Konoha and the Mist's strongest swordsman.
Itachi - Hmm, even so... It's said that every strong man has a weakness...

Kisame and Itachi were talking about the Kyuubi, not Jiraiya. Kisame brings the topic of Jiraiya up later on in the conversation and Itachi acknowledges that he's strong, but he says that he has a weakness. *girls girls girls*

It seems as if Kisame was babbling on about taking the Kyuubi on, that he couldn't do it more than a couple of minutes but Itachi would have a chance. Itachi states that they both wouldn't stand a chance of winning, even if they increased their numbers. Kisame states that it was lucky to find Naruto in the ramen shop but Jiraiya would pose a problem and Itachi just says; girls girls girls

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[Owarij]

itachi and kisame conversation about j-man its completely wrong/miss translation

and its confirmed by kirin rei

Kisame - You could somehow win, but I couldn't stand up to such an opponent for more than a couple of minutes... It's on a completely different level.
Itachi - Ah... Either (we) both (he says both/two, meaning him and Kisame) would die, or it would be a draw... The result wouldn't change even if we increased our numbers.
Kisame - It was good that we found him at the ramen shop... And he has one of the Legendary Sannin as a lucky charm. That guy (Jiraiya) might be a fair match for the strongest Uchiha from Konoha and the Mist's strongest swordsman.
Itachi - Hmm, even so... It's said that every strong man has a weakness...

Kisame and Itachi were talking about the Kyuubi, not Jiraiya. Kisame brings the topic of Jiraiya up later on in the conversation and Itachi acknowledges that he's strong, but he says that he has a weakness. *girls girls girls*

It seems as if Kisame was babbling on about taking the Kyuubi on, that he couldn't do it more than a couple of minutes but Itachi would have a chance. Itachi states that they both wouldn't stand a chance of winning, even if they increased their numbers. Kisame states that it was lucky to find Naruto in the ramen shop but Jiraiya would pose a problem and Itachi just says; girls girls girls

yea i heard on another forum, one of the translators said that they were first talking about kyuubi , then kisame mentions the sannin jiraya

but idk , can't really say anything about it

kirin rei thinks so too huh? interesting . so its not only the translator from that other forum t.t

 

[Turson]

Jiraya has tons of different jutsus that Naruto doesn't...also it doesn't necessarily mean that Naruto > Jiraya because he had SM Mastered better. Plus with Pain vs Naruto, Nagato didn't want to kill him but capture him, but with J-man it was a fight to kill.

I never said that SM Naruto is stronger than Jiraiya, but the difference between them isnt big. Fact is, Jiraiya has to struggle to activate his SM, and it would be impossible against all Six Paths.

 

[Blaze Release]

itachi and kisame conversation about j-man its completely wrong/miss translation

and its confirmed by kirin rei

Kisame - You could somehow win, but I couldn't stand up to such an opponent for more than a couple of minutes... It's on a completely different level.
Itachi - Ah... Either (we) both (he says both/two, meaning him and Kisame) would die, or it would be a draw... The result wouldn't change even if we increased our numbers.
Kisame - It was good that we found him at the ramen shop... And he has one of the Legendary Sannin as a lucky charm. That guy (Jiraiya) might be a fair match for the strongest Uchiha from Konoha and the Mist's strongest swordsman.
Itachi - Hmm, even so... It's said that every strong man has a weakness...

Kisame and Itachi were talking about the Kyuubi, not Jiraiya. Kisame brings the topic of Jiraiya up later on in the conversation and Itachi acknowledges that he's strong, but he says that he has a weakness. *girls girls girls*

It seems as if Kisame was babbling on about taking the Kyuubi on, that he couldn't do it more than a couple of minutes but Itachi would have a chance. Itachi states that they both wouldn't stand a chance of winning, even if they increased their numbers. Kisame states that it was lucky to find Naruto in the ramen shop but Jiraiya would pose a problem and Itachi just says; girls girls girls

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I was right in that siyo thread when i said this.
Anyway im not sure how this went to the sannins and creating a vs thread including itachi and oro. I mean how many times does he have to beat oro. Vs threads are for characters who havent fought in the manga. Itachi has 1 shotted oro twice. There is nothing to talk about

 

[Minator93]

oro wasn't speaking at just that time... he meant he could never go after itachi's body because he is simply weaker than him... he tried once.. he failed

please make a itachi vs oro versus thread let me destroy you quickly

/sigh

well this is Itachi vs Minato....and what you've come up with

1. Minato can't get close enough because of genjutsu...lol

2. If Minato avoids eye contact he get's amaterasu'd....:rofl: you are talking about Minato the 4th hokage the fastest of them all with s/t and high sensor skills...go read A vs Sasuke

3. And if he does look into the eyes its tsukuyomi that 1 shots.....:rofl:

have you considered the fact that if Minato is somehow put under Tsukuyomi...all he has to do is use s/t so he can no longer be staring in Itachi's eyes thus ultimately cancelling the jutsu....he did a similar thing when TObi tried ti absorb him...I mean Minato's body parts were alomst in...but he just FTG'd.

I not gonna waste my time on you.

 

[Turson]

well this is Itachi vs Minato....and what you've come up with

1. Minato can't get close enough because of genjutsu...lol

2. If Minato avoids eye contact he get's amaterasu'd....:rofl: you are talking about Minato the 4th hokage the fastest of them all with s/t and high sensor skills...go read A vs Sasuke

3. And if he does look into the eyes its tsukuyomi that 1 shots.....:rofl:

have you considered the fact that if Minato is somehow put under Tsukuyomi...all he has to do is use s/t so he can no longer be staring in Itachi's eyes thus ultimately cancelling the jutsu....he did a similar thing when TObi tried ti absorb him...I mean Minato's body parts were alomst in...but he just FTG'd.

I not gonna waste my time on you.

Lol? The moment Minato would be put under Tsukiyomi would be the end of him. How would he be able to use FTG being trapped in Itachis illusionary dimension?

 

[Owarij]

well this is Itachi vs Minato....and what you've come up with

1. Minato can't get close enough because of genjutsu...lol

2. If Minato avoids eye contact he get's amaterasu'd....:rofl: you are talking about Minato the 4th hokage the fastest of them all with s/t and high sensor skills...go read A vs Sasuke

3. And if he does look into the eyes its tsukuyomi that 1 shots.....:rofl:

have you considered the fact that if Minato is somehow put under Tsukuyomi...all he has to do is use s/t so he can no longer be staring in Itachi's eyes thus ultimately cancelling the jutsu....he did a similar thing when TObi tried ti absorb him...I mean Minato's body parts were alomst in...but he just FTG'd.

I not gonna waste my time on you.

lmao , i can't stop lmao @ everything he wrote

ahha he thinks you can use jutsu in genjutsu

 

[Minator93]

Lol? The moment Minato would be put under Tsukiyomi would be the end of him. How would he be able to use FTG being trapped in Itachis illusionary dimension?

Well its the same with Tobi's absorption as well... I mean the moment he stars absorbing You can't do jack shit...but still Minato was able to escape.

 

[Turson]

Well its the same with Tobi's absorption as well... I mean the moment he stars absorbing You can't do jack shit...but still Minato was able to escape.

Not really, Tobis was physical attack, Tsukiyomi is illusion. Its completely different technique.

 

[Zato]

Another one of these threads? What a shocker... This fight can go either way. Itachi will beat Minato though if he knows how Minato's FTG works. If Itachi is just smart enough to parry Minato's kunai away from him then Minato is in very big trouble. This was Tobi's mistake that got him beat up. Raikage was able to figure it out pretty fast.

 

[Makoto Uchiha]

Itachi Fanboys are overrating Itachi way too much.

I mean Honestly Itachi is Sannin level at best...An equal to J-man.

Even Tsunade can beat him after the contents of last couple of mangas.

And his fans are comparing him to the ninjas that are well above Kage level such as Hiruzen,Minato,Madara,Hashirama to say the least.

Lets Face it Itachi even loses to A the Raikage

are u serious about TSUNADE beating itachi U MAD BROWTH

 

[Prince Charles]

you guys should be ashamed of yourself, DO NOT FEED THE TROLL

 

[Paintachi]

I dont agree at all with your analysis.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

I come back to find 95% of people are still in denial :|