[Discussion] Why Marines don't possess Conqueror's Haki?

[Prince Badman]

We have seen many Pirates achieveing the King's Haki or the Conqueror's Haki but not in marines(Garp might be an exception but till now we haven't seen him use it so I am assuming he does have it).....I found this theory and it seems logical enough...If you have counters to it or any alternate theories please do tell......


[video=youtube;PtjtwsaH7zg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtjtwsaH7zg[/video]

 

[giostep]

Doesn't Cobi have Conquerors?

 

[Caliburn]

I didn't watch the vid as I seriously detest theories in a video format. The least you could do is giving a summarization of the vid and add your own input.

Either way it's not unreasonable to assume that marines like the admirals have the King's Disposition, but that they simply haven't shown it yet. If you're not going to assume that, well it can be explained by the reality that the world of pirates is a much better environment for the KD to prosper in contrast to the world of the marines. Someone who has the KD automatically attracts other people around him and is destined to stand above others almost like it are laws of nature. This makes the life of a pirate a good match as pirates travel around the world unrestrained, not bound by anyone or anything. The marines however have a hierarchal structure and everyone has to listen to their superiors, they can't go wherever they want to go. Someone who inherently doesn't easily accept authority, is really not going to join an organization like the Marines.

If you want to visualize this, none of the persons that currently possess the KD are the type that are going to accept someone else's authority easily. DD and Hancock, despite being Shichibukai, gave the Marines the finger right in their faces. Akainu on the other hand was forced to follow whatever game the WG was playing with DD.

Most users of the KD wouldn't really be interested in joining the Marines.

Doesn't Cobi have Conquerors?

He doesn't. In the least there are no signs he has it. Cobi knows Haki though and has an affinity for Observation Haki.

 

[Prince Badman]

I didn't watch the vid as I seriously detest theories in a video format. The least you could do is giving a summarization of the vid and add your own input.

Either way it's not unreasonable to assume that marines like the admirals have the King's Disposition, but that simply haven't shown it yet. If you're not going to assume that, well it can be explained by the reality that world of pirates is a much better environment for the KD to prosper in contrast to the world of the marines. Someone who has the KD automatically attracts other people around him and is destined to stand above others almost like it are laws of nature. This makes the life of a pirate a good match as pirates travel around the world unrestrained, not bound by anyone or anything. The marines however have a hierarchal structure and everyone has to listen to their superiors, they can't go wherever they want to go. Someone who inherently doesn't easily accept authority, is really not going to join an organization like the Marines.

If you want to visualize this, none of the persons that currently possess the KD are the type that are going to accept someone else's authority easily. DD and Hancock, despite being Shichibukai, gave the Marines the finger right in their faces. Akainu on the other hand was forced to follow whatever game they were playing with DD.

Most users of the KD wouldn't really be interested in joining the Marines.

i will do that the next time.......the thing is it said the exact same thing you are saying about marines being restrained in a hierarchy and thus being bound while pirates are essentially free being more like a king.

 

[YellowFang]

Well, just as the Admin posted earlier...

And Garp may have it considering that he also do as he pleases most of the time in Marines...

 

[marijuanna]

Wouldnt be surprised if the reason that Kizaru wasnt on the race for Fleet Admiral is because he does not have King's Haki, while both Akainu and Kuzan have it. Kizaru might speak slow, but he doesnt lack strenght or leadership for the job. I'm pretty sure we'll see King's haki on some marine's.

 

[Anduril]

Well You see the Marines are not Kings or Conquerors in any way you look at it. They are merely servants. Pirates on the other hand (especially captains) tend to create their own area of influence of sorts, you can call it their 'turf' to use a loose word.
Even by that logical sense it is increasingly unnatural for the admirals (or any marine) to develop the King's haki (since they have chosen to serve than lead), as compared to Pirates.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Worlds government fighting nobles like doffy (just not all that tragic stuff and making him pirate) also leaders like gorosei or other pirates like doffy (I think mihawk is royalty)

Potentially cp0

And I think chief of marines Kong potentially may have it..

 

[cryhwks]

It could be the case that the Marines just haven't shown it? But I think it comes down to the mind set of the One's who can use Conquerors Haki.

I think Marine's have willingly submitted themselves to be ruled. And especially the ones like Garp and Sakazuki because they have even more knowledge about how shady the WG is but still allow themselves to be ruled.

I think the One's that have Conquerors Haki are the ones that refuse to be ruled by anyone.