Why Madara HASN'T confirmed Izuna's death

[NarutoKage2]

Alright, two main things that I feel you have issues with.

1) How Rinne Tensei works.

You claim that Rinne Tensei doesn't revive the soul into its deceased body. By original body I mean the body that they died in. The soul is returned to the body as it was then the person died. Look.

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Notice how each soul is returned to its original body. Kakashi isn't healed (notice the bruises), he gets up as if he'd been asleep the entire time. With the exception of mortal wounds (Fukasaku), I'd say they are revived into their original bodies as I had said.

Izuna presumably died with no eyes, therefore, if he was revived via Rinne Tensei, he's be revived eyeless.

2) Obito's eye.

Have you read Chapter 597? If not, go ahead. Although I hate to admit it, Tobi is basically admitting he got his Sharingan in the same place/time Kakashi got his. That coupled with the similar S/T technique almost confirms it's Obito's other eye.

We know Tobi collects sharingan. It isn't that far-fetched to assume he somehow (I hate to admit it) found Obito's corpse and looted his eye. With the tech that comes with it, who wouldn't want it?

For starters, how did Izuna happen to know that Obito's eyes had potential for a s/t tech, or any potential at all? Do you see the flaw in your reasoning?
And as for the rinne tensei bit, explain this:

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That rod pierced Fukasaku's body clean all the way through from his abdomen to his back, and yet when he was revived via Rinne Tensei in the pic you yourself showed there was no hole in his stomach.
So this means:
Rinne Tensei revives the person back in their body, but also repairs any damage done to that body. Therefore if Izuna had been revived the damage of losing his eyes would have been repaired, in other words your argument is invalid.

Are you kidding me ? you say this make no sense even though it said it in chapter 597 :sy:, plus if he nedded eyes really badly I dont think he'd be picky about which ones he took.

*facepalm*
What was said(implied) in 597 was that Tobi has Obito's eye. For most sane(non Izuna=Tobi fanboys) people this proves Tobi is Obito, like it or not.

 

[Edge]

For starters, how did Izuna happen to know that Obito's eyes had potential for a s/t tech, or any potential at all? Do you see the flaw in your reasoning?
And as for the rinne tensei bit, explain this:

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That rod pierced Fukasaku's body clean all the way through from his abdomen to his back, and yet when he was revived via Rinne Tensei in the pic you yourself showed there was no hole in his stomach.
So this means:
Rinne Tensei revives the person back in their body, but also repairs any damage done to that body. Therefore if Izuna had been revived the damage of losing his eyes would have been repaired, in other words your argument is invalid.



*facepalm*
What was said(implied) in 597 was that Tobi has Obito's eye. For most sane(non Izuna=Tobi fanboys) people this proves Tobi is Obito, like it or not.

My reasoning isn't flawed, yours seems to be however. Say to me right now that Tobi doesn't have a massivecollection of Sharingans. Now that that's been thrown out there, it isn't so far fetched that Tobi took Obito's eye (as implied) and tested it out at least (he probably didn't know its power at first). He collects sharingan eyes, it's as simple as that.

My argument isn't invalid. I said they are revived in their original bodies. Obviously Fukasaku's wound was healed or else he;d be walking around with a gaping hole in his body. It seems to me that WOUNDS THAT ARE FATAL are patched up upon revival.

Since Izuna didn't DIE from having his eyes removed, he was revived without any eyes.

Just because Tobi possesses Obito's eye doesn't mean he is Obito. Anyone with a logical brain can work out this possibility.

I really have issues with people who like to appear condescending and call others fanboys when they themselves argue as intellectually as a cucumber. Once again, I'm not saying Izuna is Tobi, only that he may still be alive.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

i don't think i care about who tobi is anymore, obito or izuna wouldn't make a difference coz its stupid and will have a corny ridiculous explanation. i leaned towards the older son of the so6p theory coz at least it would justify all tobi's knowledge and some of the stuff he said like giving nagato the rinnegan, but now its getting more clear in the manga that its obito :sy:

 

[Edge]

i don't think i care about who tobi is anymore, obito or izuna wouldn't make a difference coz its stupid and will have a corny ridiculous explanation. i leaned towards the older son of the so6p theory coz at least it would justify all tobi's knowledge and some of the stuff he said like giving nagato the rinnegan, but now its getting more clear in the manga that its obito :sy:

Not really looking to talk about Tobi so much here because I feel the exact same

I'm sick of theories and such.

 

[Uchicha Macho]

izuna and madara were around the same age and they train with each other from small to adult.They both have sharigan to copy each other skill and juts.Izuna know madara well enough to be like him .This could be the reason why he call himself madara

 

[NarutoKage2]

My reasoning isn't flawed, yours seems to be however. Say to me right now that Tobi doesn't have a massivecollection of Sharingans. Now that that's been thrown out there, it isn't so far fetched that Tobi took Obito's eye (as implied) and tested it out at least (he probably didn't know its power at first). He collects sharingan eyes, it's as simple as that.

My argument isn't invalid. I said they are revived in their original bodies. Obviously Fukasaku's wound was healed or else he;d be walking around with a gaping hole in his body. It seems to me that WOUNDS THAT ARE FATAL are patched up upon revival.y

Since Izuna didn't DIE from having his eyes removed, he was revived without any eyes.

Just because Tobi possesses Obito's eye doesn't mean he is Obito. Anyone with a logical brain can work out this possibility.

I really have issues with people who like to appear condescending and call others fanboys when they themselves argue as intellectually as a cucumber. Once again, I'm not saying Izuna is Tobi, only that he may still be alive.

sheesh i give up. if all the evidence thrown in the manga still isnt enough to slap you out of the dead izuna theory, then theres no helping you im afraid.
what you fail to realize is that ALL of the sharingan in his lab were gathered from the uchiha massacre,TOBI WAS USING OBITOS EYES YEARS BEFORE THAT, when he fought minato he had the same eyes, and there is zero evidence for any stockpile back then .
and if rinne tensei only repairs lethal damage, why wasnt kakashi bleeding? he died from using kamui, not the blood on his forehead from the shinra tensei. dont be a smartass with me kid youre lucky im taking the time to explain this to you, anyways ill have a good laugh when the manga does finallyy show tobi.

 

[KidGamer65]

*facepalm*
What was said(implied) in 597 was that Tobi has Obito's eye. For most sane(non Izuna=Tobi fanboys) people this proves Tobi is Obito, like it or not.

*facepalm*
No, it proves that he has Obito's eye , he can't be Obito, timeline doesn't agree, like it or not.

I know what was implied i was reffering to how you said it would make no sense for Izuna to want some dead kids eyes if he were Tobi.

 

[-Ibrahim-]

That part were Madara said "I wouldve taught you how to rise from the dead" is pretty crazy.