Why Madara didn't open his heart?

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Why he never got to have his own side of the flashbacks? Is it the character's personality fault or Kishi's?

I am going for the first option so: firstly, Madara didn't have a person whom he could have sit and told all about Izuna and Hashirama. Or the person would use all of this against him - Sasuke and Obito - or they wouldn't care - Tobirama and Naruto.

The most strange thing is: if Sasuke teamed up with him, I guess we could have had some flashbacks about his personal life, and even his family. As Hashirama said he could have stopped him without fighting. But instead of that, he messed up this opportunity by trying to stab him - in the back - the place where it most hurt for him.


Actually, he tried to open up but this happened:

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See Sakura in the last panel and understand :

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Everybody gotten some flashback. Even Freaking Kaguya did. But Madara? ha! lawd Madara Uchiha is the BOSS! If people was able to see Madara's flashback like they did with hashi, they will know that all the 5 nations are at fault for this war and that madara is just a victim in this plot-no-jutsu conflict
 

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Everybody gotten some flashback. Even Freaking Kaguya did. But Madara? ha! lawd Madara Uchiha is the BOSS! If people was able to see Madara's flashback like they did with hashi, they will know that all the 5 nations are at fault for this war and that madara is just a victim in this plot-no-jutsu conflict
I don't say victim, he really had his time of choices. I wonder what would have happened if he had gotten over Izuna's death.
 

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It could all be good if Tobirama wasnt such a biitch and hater back then... Even now when he got back to life, there was nothing much for him but to complete Infinite Tsukuyomi dream
 

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I don't say victim, he really had his time of choices. I wonder what would have happened if he had gotten over Izuna's death.
"Good guys" can't handle TRUTH
I think if they had shown his flashback like they did with obito and hashi during the fight, people would see that Madara was right seriously and the hidden leaf village would acknowledge how the 2nd hokage treated the uchiha clan. Hell...If Sasuke had gotten some flashbacks in there, shit would've hit the fan on many levels.
 

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It could all be good if Tobirama wasnt such a biitch and hater back then... Even now when he got back to life, there was nothing much for him but to complete Infinite Tsukuyomi dream
But even Hashirama said, he was willing to open up with Sasuke... as I think Madara can just open up with Izuna or someone like him, or Hashirama...
 

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But even Hashirama said, he was willing to open up with Sasuke... as I think Madara can just open up with Izuna or someone like him, or Hashirama...
Just like u said... Sasuke tried to backstab him, in that case everyone were hating on Madara when he got back , tbh i would do the same and destroy them all . Also i think its also Hashirama's fault that Madara went the wrong way in the past, Tobirama took charge of everything back then ... ****ing annoying freak
 

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Just like u said... Sasuke tried to backstab him, in that case everyone were hating on Madara when he got back , tbh i would do the same and destroy them all . Also i think its also Hashirama's fault that Madara went the wrong way in the past, Tobirama took charge of everything back then ... ****ing annoying freak
The way the manga went, I don't think Hashirama ever lost a single fight and even know what it is like to be powerless. Because of those two reasons, he could never understood what Madara was going through.

On top of all that, Madara told him in the end that Hashi got it backward, Friends and family comes first before the village. Not the other way around.

If you put your friends and family first before the village, the village will always be there.
 

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I think if they had shown his flashback like they did with obito and hashi during the fight, people would see that Madara was right seriously and the hidden leaf village would acknowledge how the 2nd hokage treated the uchiha clan. Hell...If Sasuke had gotten some flashbacks in there, shit would've hit the fan on many levels.
And Madara even offered his side with Sasuke - just to him!

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There were so much missed opportunities so then we could have seen fully Madara's life
 

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I wouldn't open my heart either if I lost everything, my family turning their back on me to later be massacred (After not trusting me and paying heed to my warning, which came true), and was cheated in the end.

It was like Madara said to Obito:

"As long as the concept of winners exist, there will always be losers."

And that was followed by Obito, who said:

"A world of just winners and peace. How delusional!"
 

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And Madara even offered his side with Sasuke - just to him!

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There were so much missed opportunities so then we could have seen fully Madara's life
Sasuke was a dumb ass person at the time. He still can't look at the big picture properly. On top of that, I couldn't bring myself to kill any of the people from from own clan at that point. Dude went out of his way to hear the hokage's side of the story. But not Madara's?
 

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The way the manga went, I don't think Hashirama ever lost a single fight and even know what it is like to be powerless. Because of those two reasons, he could never understood what Madara was going through.

On top of all that, Madara told him in the end that Hashi got it backward, Friends and family comes first before the village. Not the other way around.

If you put your friends and family first before the village, the village will always be there.
Since he considered Madara as a friend close to a brother he should be there for him and make things work out fine... Tobirama was mastermind and did all that shi on purpose, since... he knew how Uchiha/Sharingan works with the love/hate thing - + He even knew Madara was listening while talking with Hashirama in the office and still playing dumb like he didnt noticed a shit... but its true Hashirama did put Village above anything else... even Tobirama
 

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The way the manga went, I don't think Hashirama ever lost a single fight and even know what it is like to be powerless. Because of those two reasons, he could never understood what Madara was going through.

On top of all that, Madara told him in the end that Hashi got it backward, Friends and family comes first before the village. Not the other way around.

If you put your friends and family first before the village, the village will always be there.
In bold:Preach
But I don't really think he regretted with all his being the Infinite Tsukuyomi, after all he said his dream was "dead" and Hashirama's lived on, what means he still had consideration for his last dream where he could have had all he ever wanted: peace and his brother back.
 

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Sasuke was a dumb ass person at the time. He still can't look at the big picture properly. On top of that, I couldn't bring myself to kill any of the people from from own clan at that point. Dude went out of his way to hear the hokage's side of the story. But not Madara's?
True, but Sasuke was in no mood to be manipulated anymore.
 

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I would've wanted to hear Madara's story, however. After all, he spoke some mad truth about the twisted world:

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Sasuke was a dumb ass person at the time. He still can't look at the big picture properly. On top of that, I couldn't bring myself to kill any of the people from from own clan at that point. Dude went out of his way to hear the hokage's side of the story. But not Madara's?
And one could argue that was the biggest mistake of his life: if he heard Madara's side he could have seen how things roll when Uchiha tries to be Hokage - they end up being manipulated. Yes, he is away from the village and from its influence. But Sarada will want to become Hokage..... That will not end well......
If Sasuke cared so much for his clan he would have heard his predecessor and where his ideas went wrong. Not just go hearing Tobirama's side of the story - and everything he said was: Uchiha are possessed by evil - making it seem that they have to deny themselves to be good to the village!..... I mean, c'mon!
 

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But even Hashirama said, he was willing to open up with Sasuke... as I think Madara can just open up with Izuna or someone like him, or Hashirama...
i would like to add - Sasuke knows how does it feel to loser a brother, even Hashirama told him that Madara lost his brother... Sasuke could do smth about it...
 
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