Why Kishi hates Kakashi

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Don't also forget that when it's said that Sakumo was "at the same level"(not stronger) with sannins, we're talking about the sannins who almost got owned by Hanzo in a 3vs1, Hanzo who wasn't even really that impressiv against Mifune. So by feats, i think he must have surpass his father by far, but we don't really know his real power, so i can't say anything about it.
 

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First: Sauske wasn't "exhausted", he was healed to full strength by Karin, he was only going blind.
Second: They were pretty even from what we've seen.

True but he probably wasn't full strength but not exhausted either I guess. But still Kakashi would've died so easily if he didn't have Kamui, it's kinda sad and he was full strength
 

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Umm... Have you read the manga lately? :sy:

Yes,, and if you are ferring to when he fights the Raikage, he had Tsunade's help...so.... yeah. and the Raikage isn't the best either. And Minato was supposed to e one of the better kages, leading back to my point about Minato > Naruto.
 

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Obito would have to had a brother then Kakashi would have to get his eye which is impossible

I know, which means Kakashi most likely is at his power ceiling

Unless of course Kishi trolls us and reveals that Obito did have a brother.....
 

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Umm you misread my paragraph:flaw:
I said NARUTO has not surpassed his dad.

That's what the :flaw: was for, your paragraph,sorry
the statement about kakashi was directed towards Itachilee
 

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Yes,, and if you are ferring to when he fights the Raikage, he had Tsunade's help...so.... yeah. and the Raikage isn't the best either. And Minato was supposed to e one of the better kages, leading back to my point about Minato > Naruto.

naruto isnt kage level ?GTFO TROLL
 

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-I wouldn't say he hates Kakashi. He has given Kakashi Kamui, which is an OP tech plus if you havent noticed Kakashi got a boost in Stanima.
-I personally think that he can roll with the Sanin, IMO he is equal to the Sanin. Plus Sakumo was compared to the young Sanin, not their prime selves
 

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First: Sauske wasn't "exhausted", he was healed to full strength by Karin, he was only going blind.
Second: They were pretty even from what we've seen.
Agree with this^
Also there is a need to add that Kakashi didn't even wanted to kill his student. That's why during the fight, he was always saying to him that he should stop that.
 

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Yes, this is pointless but it was just a thought:shrug:
-He is the only main character to not surpass his dad, Sakumo was apparently higher than sannin level and Kakashi sure as hell isn't
Gaara>his dad
Naruto>Minato
Itachi and Sasuke>Fugaku
Don't count Kankuro and Temari, who cares about them?
-Kishi killed off everyone from Kakashi's childhood
Minato
Sakumo
His mom
Obito
Rin
-Kakashi got owned by his own exhausted student, Sasuke duh
-Kakashi hasn't had a power-up since MS
-Kakashi's rampage against the Seven Swordsmen got skipped(it might be in the anime but there's no telling if it will)

sakumo was never said to be sannin level
 

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Yes,, and if you are ferring to when he fights the Raikage, he had Tsunade's help...so.... yeah. and the Raikage isn't the best either. And Minato was supposed to e one of the better kages, leading back to my point about Minato > Naruto.

Hahaha I'm not even gonna try with you. Minato's claim to fame was his speed. How you think he can fight 4or5 bm clones that are just as fast as he is? Throw in naruto's sage mode and the fact that he is now a perfect jinchuriki and it's pretty obvious naruto has surpassed him. But there's no point in trying to reason with Minato's fans
 

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True but he probably wasn't full strength but not exhausted either I guess. But still Kakashi would've died so easily if he didn't have Kamui, it's kinda sad and he was full strength
That's where i don't get the point. So if Sasuke uses MS technics, Kakashi must not use MS technics too?? If Sasuke uses his most powerful attack, Kakashi must not use his most powerful defense??
 

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Since when did we know about Sasukes father? If that was said in the manga I obviously missed it.
 

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Lol Wtf is wrong with you. Kakashi is the only one in the anime to possess MS without Uchiha blood, he knows thousands of jutsus, taught both the 2 main characters and to top it all off, was almost made hokage twice. All this and you're telling me Kishi hates kakashi?? Wow what a dumb accusation...
 

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Eh the only thing I found that was troll-worthy was his rampage getting off paneled, but having him fight against the Bijuu is pretty generous too.
 

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-I wouldn't say he hates Kakashi. He has given Kakashi Kamui, which is an OP tech plus if you havent noticed Kakashi got a boost in Stanima.
-I personally think that he can roll with the Sanin, IMO he is equal to the Sanin. Plus Sakumo was compared to the young Sanin, not their prime selves

If that sannin thing is true then good point. But still, that's not the only point I have. And yeah it looks like Kakashi has a little more stamina but it's not official because it hasn't been stated
 
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