Why kamui does not help obito against itachi [proof]

[Chazzi]

Really? Is that why 90% of the commenters disagree with you and only the people with Itachi avatars agree? lol

And Black Zetsu only meant for that situation, regardless, Black Zetsu has proven to be an idiot anyways.

So far, only you and one other has even mentioned that Lol So much for 90% of commenters.

 

[Draphsin]

Really? Is that why 90% of the commenters disagree with you and only the people with Itachi avatars agree? lol

And Black Zetsu only meant for that situation, regardless, Black Zetsu has proven to be an idiot anyways.

Lol Just don't bother, the thread & this guy were both branded a joke a few pages back.

 

[Lightbringer]

So far, only you and one other has even mentioned that Lol So much for 90% of commenters.

That's because everyone else was talking about the statement which you've made about Kamui being shit.

If Yata and Totsuka were so amazing, why didn't Black Zetsu bother to steal it after Itachi's death so that Kaguya would be invincible?

Yeah, your logic fails.

 

[Chazzi]

That's because everyone else was talking about the statement which you've made about Kamui being shit.

If Yata and Totsuka were so amazing, why didn't Black Zetsu bother to steal it after Itachi's death so that Kaguya would be invincible?

Yeah, your logic fails.

Because the weapons were with his Susanoo? Its not like they appeared on the ground as his Susanoo disappeared Lol

Your logic fails.

And you think NB is everyone that reads the Naruto manga? Because even if 90% of those who commented here thought that, which is like 20 ppl at max, it doesn't say shit. Most people overall that read the manga will still agree with me.

 

[Chazzi]

Lol Just don't bother, the thread & this guy were both branded a joke a few pages back.

Lol such a rustled Obito fanboy :'(

 

[Lightbringer]

Because the weapons were with his Susanoo? Its not like they appeared on the ground as his Susanoo disappeared Lol

Your logic fails.

And you think NB is everyone that reads the Naruto manga? Because even if 90% of those who commented here thought that, which is like 20 ppl at max, it doesn't say shit. Most people overall that read the manga will still agree with me.

lol Black Zetsu could have taken over Itachi's body as soon as he deactivated his Susanoo like he did with Obito and then separate Itachi from Yata and Totsuka. But he didn't nor did he make the effort to try, which means those items weren't that important to him.

Black Zetsu also knew of their existence before Itachi even obtained those items, yet he never tried to find them on his own. Because they weren't that great.


Also, I've been here since 2012 so I've seen first-hand that what you said was not true. Only those whose favorite is Itachi will agree with you and no one else.

 

[Chazzi]

lol Black Zetsu could have taken over Itachi's body as soon as he deactivated his Susanoo like he did with Obito and then separate Itachi from Yata and Totsuka. But he didn't nor did he make the effort to try, which means those items weren't that important to him.

Black Zetsu also knew of their existence before Itachi even obtained those items, yet he never tried to find them on his own. Because they weren't that great.


Also, I've been here since 2012 so I've seen first-hand that what you said was not true. Only those whose favorite is Itachi will agree with you and no one else.

Problably because he cant use them, hes just a blob after all.?

Yeah, i bet 90% on this site thinks that the reason why black zetsu said that he was invincible was because he couldnt lose to sasuke in that situation
And it still doesn't matter because NB isnt everyone who has read the manga.
I just hope you realize how stupid @bold statement sounds.

 

[Lightbringer]

Problably because he cant use them, hes just a blob after all.?

Yeah, i bet 90% on this site thinks that the reason why black zetsu said that he was invincible was because he couldnt lose to sasuke in that situation
And it still doesn't matter because NB isnt everyone who has read the manga.
I just hope you realize how stupid @bold statement sounds.

Saying it's stupid doesn't really make it stupid since you are already in the wrong here and are just desperate to being right.

Hell, I have people I talk to about Naruto outside of NB and they even know that Itachi isn't invincible.


and why would Black Zetsu not be able to use them? They're not just meant for the Susanoo, hence why Orochimaru was searching for Totsuka.

 

[Chazzi]

Saying it's stupid doesn't really make it stupid since you are already in the wrong here and are just desperate to being right.

Hell, I have people I talk to about Naruto outside of NB and they even know that Itachi isn't invincible.


and why would Black Zetsu not be able to use them? They're not just meant for the Susanoo, hence why Orochimaru was searching for Totsuka.

Omfg, you're so slow. I already said that i did not mean that most people thinks he is invincible, just that the reason Black Zetsu said he was is because he thinks he is while wielding the yata+totsuka. WHILE BEING IN HIS SUSANOO WHILE ITS WIELDING THEM.

As i said, because hes just a blob.

 

[Lightbringer]

Omfg, you're so slow. I already said that i did not mean that most people thinks he is invincible, just that the reason Black Zetsu said he was is because he thinks he is while wielding the yata+totsuka.

As i said, because hes just a blob.

Ok and I'm saying that pretty much everybody knows that Black Zetsu only meant that Itachi was invincible for that instance. Hence, Itachi not actually being invincible all the time but only during his battle against Sasuke.

You're the one that's slow.


Also that makes no sense. Black Zetsu isn't just a blob and Totsuka nor Yata require chakra to use anyhow.

 

[Chazzi]

Ok and I'm saying that pretty much everybody knows that Black Zetu only meant that Itachi was invincible for that instance. Hence, Itachi not actually being invincible all the time but only against his battle against Sasuke.

You're the one that's slow.


Also that makes no sense. Black Zetsu isn't just a blob and Totsuka nor Yata require chakra to use anyhow.

You still don't seem to get it, since @bold.
He didn't mean he's invincible all the time, just the time he is in his susanoo and its wielding Yata&Totsuka.
And its weird if most people would think that since this is the first time ive ever seen/heard someone say that, you and that other guy who first said it.

 

[Lightbringer]

You still don't seem to get it, since @bold.
He didn't mean he's invincible all the time, just the time he is in his susanoo and its wielding Yata&Totsuka.
And its weird if most people would think that since this is the first time ive ever seen/heard someone say that, you and that other guy who first said it.

No....you're really the one that doesn't get it.

It's just common sense. If he was invincible every time he used both Yata and Totsuka then everyone would put him above every other character in the series and that's obviously not the case.

If what you said was true, then he would technically be invincible in every battle since that's the argument every Itachi fan makes in vs threads and people always disagree. They always say the first thing Itachi does is use both Yata and Totsuka and will win in the process, and just about everyone always disagree with them.

It doesn't make sense how he would be truly invincible with them both out anyhow since Yata doesn't protect you from all angles but only the direction it's facing.

So large scope techniques will still hit Itachi from behind, like the blast from a TBB. Yata only deflects all attack that are from the front. It doesn't stop the rest of the blast to envelope Itachi.

 

[Chazzi]

No....you're really the one that doesn't get it.

It's just common sense. If he was invincible every time he used both Yata and Totsuka then everyone would put him above every other character in the series and that's obviously not the case.

If what you said was true, then he would technically be invincible in every battle since that's the argument every Itachi fan makes in vs threads and people always disagree. They always say the first thing Itachi does is use both Yata and Totsuka and will win in the process, and just about everyone always disagree with them.

It doesn't make sense how he would be truly invincible with them both out anyhow since Yata doesn't protect you from all angles but only the direction it's facing.

So large scope techniques will still hit Itachi from behind, like the blast from a TBB. Yata only deflects all attack that are from the front. It doesn't stop the rest of the blast to envelope Itachi.

No, you're the one whos not getting it since thats im not talking about wether they make him invincible or not, just about why BZ said what he did. He hyped him & the weapons, it doesn't mean its true and thats not what im arguing for. You said Black Zetsu was an idiot and that he was wrong, then you say he said it because something that was true (that Itachi was invincible in that situation vs sasuke)? why would you even bother calling him an idiot in the first place if the reason he said it was true

And i'm pretty sure most people agrees that BZ was hyping Itachi, not talking about his current situation with Sasuke, because that wouldnt be hyping.

 

[patskie14]

u w0t 1tachi fapbuiz???

 

[Lightbringer]

No, you're the one whos not getting it since thats im not talking about wether they make him invincible or not, just about why BZ said what he did. He hyped him & the weapons, it doesn't mean its true and thats not what im arguing for. You said Black Zetsu was an idiot and that he was wrong, then you say he said it because something that was true (that Itachi was invincible in that situation vs sasuke)? why would you even bother calling him an idiot in the first place if the reason he said it was true

And i'm pretty sure most people agrees that BZ was hyping Itachi, not talking about his current situation with Sasuke, because that wouldnt be hyping.

Yes, Black Zetsu was an idiot and he was still only referring to Itachi being invincible in that instance against Sasuke.

It would be wrong to believe something as ludicrous as Yata and Totsuka making Itachi invincible against anybody in any occasion just because Black Zetsu said it because then he would be admitting to Kaguya being inferior against Yata and Totsuka.

and if that was the case, then Black Zetsu would have made it his mission to obtain both Yata and Totsuka, which would have made Kaguya invincible from any and all opponents.



That's what we're arguing and obviously Black Zetsu did none of what I've just metioned, meaning he only meant Itachi was invincible in that instance and not invincible every time he has both Yata and Totsuka out.

 

[Chazzi]

Yes, Black Zetsu was an idiot and he was still only referring to Itachi being invincible in that instance against Sasuke.

It would be wrong to believe something as ludicrous as Yata and Totsuka making Itachi invincible against anybody in any occasion just because Black Zetsu said it because then he would be admitting to Kaguya being inferior against Yata and Totsuka.

and if that was the case, then Black Zetsu would have made it his mission to obtain both Yata and Totsuka, which would have made Kaguya invincible from any and all opponents.



That's what we're arguing and obviously Black Zetsu did none of what I've just metioned, meaning he only meant Itachi was invincible in that instance and not invincible every time he has both Yata and Totsuka out.

Whatever floats your boat, buddy. I'm just saying most people agrees with me that BZ was hyping Itachi, saying he is invincible with yata & totsuka. If he said it because of your reason, it isnt really hype is it?

''He's... Completely invincible.. But only against a half dead sasuke..'' Lol sure bro.

 

[Lightbringer]

Whatever floats your boat, buddy. I'm just saying most people agrees with me that BZ was hyping Itachi, saying he is invincible with yata & totsuka. If he said it because of your reason, it isnt really hype is it?

''He's... Completely invincible.. But only against a half dead sasuke..'' Lol sure bro.

Hype doesn't mean it's always literal.

I gave you a solid argument as to why Black Zetsu was only exaggerating and not speaking literally.

But now you're saying that you don't believe that Itachi is actually invincible and that Black Zetsu could be wrong so I don't even get the point of your thread.

Your thread was titled "Why kamui does not help obito against itachi [proof]" and your "proof" was by saying how Black Zetsu knew of Kamui but said that Itachi was invincible.

But now you said yourself that isn't what you're arguing nor what you believe, so obviously the proof that you presented in your thread is wrong lol

No, you're the one whos not getting it since thats im not talking about wether they make him invincible or not, just about why BZ said what he did. He hyped him & the weapons, it doesn't mean its true and thats not what im arguing for.

 

[Chazzi]

Hype doesn't mean it's always literal.

I gave you a solid argument as to why Black Zetsu was only exaggerating and not speaking literally.

But now you're saying that you don't believe that Itachi is actually invincible and that Black Zetsu could be wrong so I don't even get the point of your thread.

Your thread was titled by giving proof as to why Kamui is useless against Itachi and your "proof" was by saying how Black Zetsu knew of Kamui but said that Itachi was invincible.

But now you said yourself that isn't what you're arguing nor what you believe lol

No, if i believe Yata makes him invincible or not is irrelevant to what im arguing for right now. The only thing im arguing about right now is that most people will agree with me on the matter that BZ was hyping Itachi, saying he is invincible with totsuka&yata, whether he means it literally or not. Don't really see how you can't understand that after my last 5 posts. Smh

 

[Lightbringer]

No, if i believe Yata makes him invincible or not is irrelevant to what im arguing for right now. The only thing im arguing about right now is that most people will agree with me on the matter that BZ was hyping Itachi, saying he is invincible with totsuka&yata, whether he means it literally or not. Don't really see how you can't understand that after my last 5 posts. Smh

I updated my comment. Reread it.

 

[Chazzi]

I updated my comment. Reread it.

I said it doesn't mean its true, not that i don't believe it. Whats your point?

I wasn't really being serious with the [proof] part, but it was something ive thought about, why BZ said that if he knew about kamui.