Why Kabuto is a bloody GENIUS

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If i get what u are saying u mean muu is like a link or intermediary btwn kabuto and madara.Kabuto needed sm1 to summon madara thats why he said he was lucky that muu splitted before been sealed,so whatever is going to happen btwn madara and kabuto has to go through muu.If kabutu was to be forced to release edo he muu would be sealed back into the coffin without unsummoning madara thereby having the only link to madara lost and MADARA GONNA GET LOOSE=PERFECT VILLIAN
 

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If i get what u are saying u mean muu is like a link or intermediary btwn kabuto and madara.Kabuto needed sm1 to summon madara thats why he said he was lucky that muu splitted before been sealed,so whatever is going to happen btwn madara and kabuto has to go through muu.If kabutu was to be forced to release edo he muu would be sealed back into the coffin without unsummoning madara thereby having the only link to madara lost and MADARA GONNA GET LOOSE=PERFECT VILLIAN

Pretty much ^^
 

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Very plausible theory and well thought out. ^^ That would be a very interesting turn-out if Kabuto is defeated/sealed and Madara is out of control. I would laugh so hard at Kishi/Kabuto's genius and hope that he goes after my least liked characters first XD
 

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Very plausible theory and well thought out. ^^ That would be a very interesting turn-out if Kabuto is defeated/sealed and Madara is out of control. I would laugh so hard at Kishi/Kabuto's genius and hope that he goes after my least liked characters first XD

Thanks man ^^
 

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nice theory. I'm not quite sure it that makes Muu the summoner of Madara.

I agree kabuto does not have full control over Madara. If nagato and itachi were able to break free of his control I'm sure Madara would be able to as well so no point in trying to control him
 

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Very nice theory, but I doubt it'll come this way.

Kabuto has indeed full control over Madara. We already saw him taking full control of Raikage, who was in turn summoned via Muu. So no matter what happens, as long as Madara is an Edo Tensei, Kabuto can control him at will. Who knows why he tried to manipulate Madara - maybe he's afraid that there are ways Madara can permanently bind his soul to earth, for exapmle by using Izanagi to create a real, noin-edo copy of himself.
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I'm using the word 'via' instead of 'by' on purpose, since - in my oppinion - it doesn't matter if it's used through an Edo Tensei body or not, it's still Kabuto's technique, he's still the one who has bound their souls to earth and controlls them. Muu's body is like a signal receiver - he performs Kabuto's technique, which he on the other hand couldn't perfom himself. Just like Kabuto can speak, hear and see through Muu's body.
 
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Very nice theory, but I doubt it'll come this way.

Kabuto has indeed full control over Madara. We already saw him taking full control of Raikage, who was in turn summoned via Muu. So no matter what happens, as long as Madara is an Edo Tensei, Kabuto can control him at will. Who knows why he tried to manipulate Madara - maybe he's afraid that there are ways Madara can permanently bind his soul to earth, for exapmle by using Izanagi to create a real, noin-edo copy of himself.
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I'm using the word 'via' instead of 'by' on purpose, since - in my oppinion - it doesn't matter if it's used through an Edo Tensei body or not, it's still Kabuto's technique, he's still the one who has bound their souls to earth and controlls them. Muu's body is like a signal receiver - he performs Kabuto's technique, which he on the other hand couldn't perfom himself. Just like Kabuto can speak, hear and see through Muu's body.

Thanks and fair enough.
 

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Could be true, that will be so badass as madara himself. Because if he is controlling madara, then madara should be listening to kabuto's new plan instead of asking wether kabuto is on his side. :shrug:
 

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If your theory is right Muu might be the important summoner since he can turn invisible and his a hell of a sensor
 

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Could be true, that will be so badass as madara himself. Because if he is controlling madara, then madara should be listening to kabuto's new plan instead of asking wether kabuto is on his side. :shrug:

If your theory is right Muu might be the important summoner since he can turn invisible and his a hell of a sensor

Pretty much :ghehe:
 

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I'll be honest. I really like this idea. +reps for coming up with it....can I even rep?

However it's very unlikely, in fact I'll go so far as to say it's not so. Muu did not revive Madara, he simply summoned the coffin to the battlefield. Edo Tensei is another process on it's own and not as simple as a Kuchiyose. Kabuto himself has already executed the jutsu on all the individuals involved he can simply use other Edo's to summon them to the battlefield.
Edo Tensei is done only once! After that it's merely a matter of summoning the body to the battlefield. When Orochimaru invaded Konoha, he didn't use Edo Tensei right there. All the prep work was done much earlier and this was simply a summon and execute.

The same goes for Muu bringing Madara to the battlefield. He simply summoned him but he didn't used Edo Tensei.
 

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but it seems like itachi doesnt know madara is even out there on the battlefield. so best case scenario the uchiha bros manage to unsummon muu and dan. madara will need to be sealed by gaara or someone else.
 

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Well I agree with you 100%. The Edo Tensei has Weaknesses after all this talk Kabuto gave us :).. It all makes sense I tried to find some holes in it but I couldn't do it, I bet Madara is too much for him to handle after geting out so much Edos.. Still, he was really smart to make a move like this, but I bet Madara knows that he's not being controled.

And I really though about kabuto on Madaras side it seems that kabuto tries to get into Madaras ass if you know what I mean ofc. He has no full control of Madara because Madara is more than your raikage and else.. Also Rinnegan and Izanagi could break Edo tensei, every jutsu has weaknesses. Plus Nagato wasn't able to break Edo tensei wth was that ? Only Itachi did it with KA.. At any point if madara gets out of Edo - Perfect villain :)

At any point Kabuto wasted a lot of chakra and reserves on other Edos, he wasn't expecting Madara to be so badass. Anyway this all makes sense and Edo Tensei is not perfect technique it has weaknesses.
 
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I'll be honest. I really like this idea. +reps for coming up with it....can I even rep?

However it's very unlikely, in fact I'll go so far as to say it's not so. Muu did not revive Madara, he simply summoned the coffin to the battlefield. Edo Tensei is another process on it's own and not as simple as a Kuchiyose. Kabuto himself has already executed the jutsu on all the individuals involved he can simply use other Edo's to summon them to the battlefield.
Edo Tensei is done only once! After that it's merely a matter of summoning the body to the battlefield. When Orochimaru invaded Konoha, he didn't use Edo Tensei right there. All the prep work was done much earlier and this was simply a summon and execute.

The same goes for Muu bringing Madara to the battlefield. He simply summoned him but he didn't used Edo Tensei.

but it seems like itachi doesnt know madara is even out there on the battlefield. so best case scenario the uchiha bros manage to unsummon muu and dan. madara will need to be sealed by gaara or someone else.

Well I agree with you 100%. The Edo Tensei has Weaknesses after all this talk Kabuto gave us :).. It all makes sense I tried to find some holes in it but I couldn't do it, I bet Madara is too much for him to handle after geting out so much Edos.. Still, he was really smart to make a move like this, but I bet Madara knows that he's not being controled.

And I really though about kabuto on Madaras side it seems that kabuto tries to get into Madaras ass if you know what I mean ofc. He has no full control of Madara because Madara is more than your raikage and else.. Also Rinnegan and Izanagi could break Edo tensei, every jutsu has weaknesses. Plus Nagato wasn't able to break Edo tensei wth was that ? Only Itachi did it with KA.. At any point if madara gets out of Edo - Perfect villain :)

At any point Kabuto wasted a lot of chakra and reserves on other Edos, he wasn't expecting Madara to be so badass. Anyway this all makes sense and Edo Tensei is not perfect technique it has weaknesses.

Thank you guys
 

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Master of Puppets no jutsu.

Muu didn't initiate/ isn't controlling the Edo Tensei.

So what you're saying is, because he summoned him to the battlefield.. he wuh?, he won't be undone when the Edo Tensei is stopped, just because Muu summoned his coffin. Hmm but Itachi will still be gone if the Edo tensei is undone? What do you say to that.

It is an interesting theory though.
 

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This makes no sense. If kabuto died it would be the same situation with Madara running around rampant. Muu doesn't matter. Kabuto used unlimited nature chakra to be able to summon that many. Also, Muu didn't perform edo he used summoning jutsu.

I can't believe how many idiots repped you.
 
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Master of Puppets no jutsu.

Muu didn't initiate/ isn't controlling the Edo Tensei.

So what you're saying is, because he summoned him to the battlefield.. he wuh?, he won't be undone when the Edo Tensei is stopped, just because Muu summoned his coffin. Hmm but Itachi will still be gone if the Edo tensei is undone? What do you say to that.

It is an interesting theory though.

Yep.

This makes no sense. If kabuto died it would be the same situation with Madara running around rampant. Muu doesn't matter. Kabuto used unlimited nature chakra to be able to summon that many.

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