Why Jiraiya > Sasuke

[Naruto N. Uzumaki]

What's to say Sasuke can't just summon a hawk and fly upwards, giving him an aerial advantage.

if his out of susanoo then j man has jutsu to end him

 

[Ryuu..]

At the highlighted part, it was this technique a barrier ninjutsu;

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That jutsu;

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Nagato had already seen that barrier but still risked one path in animal to kill jiraiya and with that got trapped. Sasuke has no reason to break though that barrier. Like the rennigan, the shairgan can see chakra.

That shadow techniques is temporal and its used to hide, jiraiya taking control over sasuke's for a few minutes isnt dong anything because he cannot attack regardless because he merges with the sasuke's shadow

I question whether Pain actually sacrificed a body, because it was 6 vs 1 situation. Why would that have been necessary when they could've easily taken him out?

Also, it may be true that Sasuke could see the jutsu via Sharingan, however, this leads me to the point where I believe his temperament will lose him the match (as we saw vs Bee and Raikage). He is too hot headed sometimes to see the finer details and will more likely charge in with an unecessary chidori. This is why I believe Jiraiya's experience will be the deciding factor.

 

[F1N1X]

You are ignored. U_U

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ANY ONE WHO DISAGREES WITH MY POST

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[Blaze Release]

Lmao at people bringing in the swamp of the underworld. That technique is only effective against summonings who have little to no chakra control. A ninja that has superb chakra control able to stand on water, can stand on that mud

 

[Ryuu..]

Sasuke's a sharingan user and you think he wouldn't be able to see through that genjutsu? Not to mention they actually have to trap Sasuke in the genjutsu first, which would be extremely difficult.

This is provided Sasuke doesn't kill him first with amaterasu, susanoo, or some form of enton manipulation.

Most of Sasuke's attacks are simply too fast for Jiraiya imo.

Anyway I'm out because this thread is getting boring. Last thing I want to do is help a troll get a hot thread.

Final point, I think it's very easy for Sasuke to be stalled by Jiraiya which is why I don't think he can last the distance if he's having to use all these EMS techniques.

 

[Sasuke Fan Hater]

Lmao at people bringing in the swamp of the underworld. That technique is only effective against summonings who have little to no chakra control. A ninja that has superb chakra control able to stand on water, can stand on that mud

it sucks you in dumb face...

 

[Blaze Release]

I question whether Pain actually sacrificed a body, because it was 6 vs 1 situation. Why would that have been necessary when they could've easily taken him out?

Also, it may be true that Sasuke could see the jutsu via Sharingan, however, this leads me to the point where I believe his temperament will lose him the match (as we saw vs Bee and Raikage). He is too hot headed sometimes to see the finer details and will more likely charge in with an unecessary chidori. This is why I believe Jiraiya's experience will be the deciding factor.

Nagato has already noticed that barrier earlier on know different to how he noticed the barrier surrounding konoha. Even jiraiya questioned why he charged right in, when previously he has been cautious about that barrier. Nagato had many attacks he couldve used and infact we didnt get to see some of his ninjutsu's especially deva paths (ct, shinra tensei and banshou tennin). Sacrificing a path isnt a big of a deal when youve got many dead bodies and infact replaced it soon.

You are stooping so low its kinda funny to try and find a leeway for jiraiya to win and your argument is sasuke's temperament and his experience. Meh im outta here the clear winner here is ms sasuke

 

[Ryuu..]

Nagato has already noticed that barrier earlier on know different to how he noticed the barrier surrounding konoha. Even jiraiya questioned why he charged right in, when previously he has been cautious about that barrier. Nagato had many attacks he couldve used and infact we didnt get to see some of his ninjutsu's especially deva paths (ct, shinra tensei and banshou tennin). Sacrificing a path isnt a big of a deal when youve got many dead bodies and infact replaced it soon.

You are stooping so low its kinda funny to try and find a leeway for jiraiya to win and your argument is sasuke's temperament and his experience. Meh im outta here the clear winner here is ms sasuke

Truth is the guy is almost as foolish as Naruto, aside from that moment vs Deidara with the sword in the ground.

 

[F1N1X]

I don't know But i think i saw something about sasuke being able to see Barriers which By The Way No sharingan user have shown

 

[Punk Hazard]

if his out of susanoo then j man has jutsu to end him

Actually, I doubt Sasuke has to turn off Susano'o to ride a hawk. Since Susano'o is just a form made of energy, it wouldn't add any further strain to him.

Remember when he fought Danzo, he was jumping around and a full Susano'o wasn't even hindering him.

 

[Sasuke Fan Hater]

Nagato has already noticed that barrier earlier on know different to how he noticed the barrier surrounding konoha. Even jiraiya questioned why he charged right in, when previously he has been cautious about that barrier. Nagato had many attacks he couldve used and infact we didnt get to see some of his ninjutsu's especially deva paths (ct, shinra tensei and banshou tennin). Sacrificing a path isnt a big of a deal when youve got many dead bodies and infact replaced it soon.

You are stooping so low its kinda funny to try and find a leeway for jiraiya to win and your argument is sasuke's temperament and his experience. Meh im outta here the clear winner here is ms sasuke

You being serious...? Nagato didn't sacrifice his animal path to Jiraiya.You are really dumb person who wanna sound intelligent.Jiraiya took the animal path in to his toad barrier.Pain didn't notice the barrier.The deva path says after the animall path is been sucked in 'i don't sense his presence'.So stop your pointless rambling. U_U

 

[Naruto N. Uzumaki]

Actually, I doubt Sasuke has to turn off Susano'o to ride a hawk. Since Susano'o is just a form made of energy, it wouldn't add any further strain to him.

Remember when he fought Danzo, he was jumping around and a full Susano'o wasn't even hindering him.

end of the day is just our assumption and opinion

ps i dont like going all out with uchiha fanboys so i end it here hopefully

 

[Punk Hazard]

end of the day is just our assumption and opinion

ps i dont like going all out with uchiha fanboys so i end it here hopefully

I'm not a fanboy

 

[mas129]

Wow, from troll thread to good discussion. Both have merits to win but one of Sasuke's biggest flaw is his hot head. When he underestimates his opponents, he gets f*cked, point and case, A and Bee. If it had not been for gaara, he would be a dead man at A's hand.

Jiraiya is perfectly suited to outsmart him, and should be able to get into sage mode. Obviously if he cannot Sasuke wins. But in sage mode, one on one, he could pull off ma and pa genjutsu, especially if Sasuke hides in Sasuno. Now, can he evade Amaterasu, well, from what I have made out from the anime, if the target is stationary, you will be hit instantly

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however if you are moving then it will have to reach you

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skip to 7:30

by which time he can attack him

An MS susuke will lose but EMS, is different, because he will not wear himself out as easily, but he can run out of chakra while Jiraiya will not.

In sage mode, Sasuke's genjutsu is ineffective. The more I think about it the more I say Jiraiya wins and none of the arguments have convinced me to one side completely.

 

[Naruto N. Uzumaki]

I'm not a fanboy

not calling you a fanboy just a message to the other fanboys didn't want post twice post that's why i said p.s

 

[Sasuke Fan Hater]

Wow, from troll thread to good discussion. Both have merits to win but one of Sasuke's biggest flaw is his hot head. When he underestimates his opponents, he gets f*cked, point and case, A and Bee. If it had not been for gaara, he would be a dead man at A's hand.

Jiraiya is perfectly suited to outsmart him, and should be able to get into sage mode. Obviously if he cannot Sasuke wins. But in sage mode, one on one, he could pull off ma and pa genjutsu, especially if Sasuke hides in Sasuno. Now, can he evade Amaterasu, well, from what I have made out from the anime, if the target is stationary, you will be hit instantly

Spoiler

however if you are moving then it will have to reach you

Spoiler

skip to 7:30

by which time he can attack him

An MS susuke will lose but EMS, is different, because he will not wear himself out as easily, but he can run out of chakra while Jiraiya will not.

In sage mode, Sasuke's genjutsu is ineffective. The more I think about it the more I say Jiraiya wins and none of the arguments have convinced me to one side completely.

I respect you for your rational thinking.But this is not a troll thread.I just wanna prove Sasuke fans wrong.

 

[Ambriel]

Haha blaze and 4th hokage just ended the thread

 

[mas129]

I respect you for your rational thinking.But this is not a troll thread.I just wanna prove Sasuke fans wrong.

You can argue all day about what a troll thread is but when someone just creates threads with one thing on his mind, to prove sasuke is a w*nker (which he is)/weak (which he is certainly not), it can be taken as troll. Other examples, the infamous Dodai/rubber guy "Sakura is the Best" which is more troll than anything on this site but funny as hell.

 

[Naruto N. Uzumaki]

Haha blaze and 4th hokage just ended the thread

no i ended it by walking away becasue talking to uchiha fanboys it like this

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talking to a wall

 

[Ryuu..]

no i ended it by walking away becasue talking to uchiha fanboys it like this

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talking to a wall

LMAO xd