Why Jiraiya > itachi

[omarsen]

I have seen alot of people saying that Itachi can solo Jiraiya easily becuase of "amaterasu" lmao

So this battle is between MS-Itachi vs Jiraiya.

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amaterasu counter

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As you can see above^ is a simple counter for amaterasu, just like Gaara's absolute defense. and the sealing technique.

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Fire release
Jiraiya's fire release is better than Itachi's in this case. Fire+Wind > Fire

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Genjutsu

Tsukuyomi
wont work. Mo & Pa will wake him up, and he is in Sage Mode, which will give him more resistance against any genjutsu. Itachi using Tsukuyomi, is nearly impossible since he need to put all his focus on it, and it will put him in huge disadvantage through out the fight, he said so himself.

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Jiraiya's Genjutsu
Is better since it relay on hearing senses, even Nagato with Rinnegan couldn't break free from it.

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Susanoo counter
Gamabunta winstood against shukaku, and is as big as a tailed beast. and not to mention the other 2 toads. Gamabunta is also capable of water release. Also Ultra-rasengan pierce through Itachi's Susanoo

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Izanami won't work

If you are going to tell bullsht like Itachi 1shot with Tsukuyomi stfu, alright?
Same thing when you say Minato can take any opponent becuase of his speed. (everything got a counter)

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Jiraiya > itachi (Manga facts)

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Discuss

 

[Avinash012]

Jiraya > Juubito as admitted by Obito so it is only logical to say that Jiraya >My boy Itachi.

 

[Sir Blades]

Plus Jiraiya can hide in the enemies shadows and stick to walls like a painting.

 

[Kαmi]

Jiraya > Juubito as admitted by Obito so it is only logical to say that Jiraya >My boy Itachi.

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#Mangaphux

 

[omarsen]

Plus Jiraiya can hide in the enemies shadows and stick to walls like a painting.

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[The Necromancer]

Your counter for amaterasu is that he's going to let it hit him... then he's going to seal it?

 

[Ver55e]

I don't what episode was it but it was when itachi and kisame were going to kidnap naruto. Itachi said that if they fight jiraiya one on one they will die if two on 1 one of them will die or jiraiya will die but they will leave massive injuries

 

[omarsen]

Your counter for amaterasu is that he's going to let it hit him... then he's going to seal it?

He can do 2 things, either seal it or block it like garaa did. He got plenty of time to react, since he is in sage mode.

 

[Meee]

Your counter for amaterasu is that he's going to let it hit him... then he's going to seal it?

the counter is soo dumb I have no idea why so many people use it the dude had to literally write in a scroll and do a hand sign to seal the flames -_-

 

[Mellanoma]

Totsuka one shots gamabunta...

How is Jiraiya going to seal Amaterasu fire if he going to be covered in black flames? Doesn't make sense

Lastly Ma and Pa won't awaken Jiraiya from Tsukyomi... Tsukyomi is instant meaning an instant in the real world will last 3 days in jiraiya's mind meaning Jiraiya will collaspe or be defeated before ma and pa even realize anything.

 

[omarsen]

Totsuka one shots gamabunta...

How is Jiraiya going to seal Amaterasu fire if he going to be covered in black flames? Doesn't make sense

Lastly Ma and Pa won't awaken Jiraiya from Tsukyomi... Tsukyomi is instant meaning an instant in the real world will last 3 days in jiraiya's mind meaning Jiraiya will collaspe or be defeated before ma and pa even realize anything.

1shot thing again? there is gamabunta and 2 toads.
Shot it right back at him, needles with amaterasu

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[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

As much as I love Jiraya - sadly I think he would lose.
Its not a matter of who's stronger, Jiraya has the disadvantage here "Tsukuyoumi" - Amaterasu and Susano would be enough of a challenge for him, if you add Tsukuyoumi, Jiraya will more likely lose. If you add totsuka + Izanami/Izanagi - Jiraya is Definitely screwed!

So all in all, Jiraya loses against Itachi!

However . against an Ill Itachi - he has a Good chance, especially if he's familiar with itachis techs.

 

[Da Best Ever]

I have never said this before and I hate fanboys saying this but itachi could literally one-shot jiraya before he goes into sage mode which he takes a long time doing which would be bad against itachi who is a quick battle ender...

sound genjutsu could affect itachi but he did go up against sound genjutsu from dsm kabuto and although he was immobile which is what ma and pa's do itachi still was able to make his susano move and protect sasuke from kabuto so that sound shit can be overcome by itachi and they cant do anything to yata mirror....

tsukoyami could end the battle before jiraya goes into sage mode which he takes a long time doing...

all his jutsu against susano is negated by yata

he cant beat itachi in taijutsu while in base form, but in sage mode he could be a problem but once he goes to his full power itachi would use his which is susano

jiraya's hope is that itachi doesn't one-shot him from the jump and that he can make into sage mode

and how can jiraya block amaterasu with his hard hair if he cant sense it coming before he goes into sage mode??? the answer is he cant and he would be burnt alive and that seal cannot be done in live combat so u can gone on with that shit...itachi wins this man if somebody says otherwise then...


jiraya gets beat before he goes into sage mode he takes too long going into it..gg by any itachi jutsu

 

[Mellanoma]

Shot it right back at him, needles with amaterasu

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haha you are trolling lol

 

[The Necromancer]

Totsuka one shots gamabunta...

How is Jiraiya going to seal Amaterasu fire if he going to be covered in black flames? Doesn't make sense

Lastly Ma and Pa won't awaken Jiraiya from Tsukyomi... Tsukyomi is instant meaning an instant in the real world will last 3 days in jiraiya's mind meaning Jiraiya will collaspe or be defeated before ma and pa even realize anything.

This.

1. Jiraiya takes full minutes to go into sage mode, time well enough for Itachi to score a win while Sage mode is jiraiya's only real chance
2. Amaterasu is instant and anything less than sensing the pressure behind it (as not even naruto in his mastery of sage mode could) something jiraiya cannot do in base form and can only debateably do in Sage mode.
3. Jiraiya has no feats to counter genjutsu alone, and as explained takes full minutes to summon shima and fukasaku.
4. Summons are easily controlled via the sharingan or even sealed in the totsuka or burned down with fireballs or amaterasu.
5. Tsukuyomi is instant, and even with assistance is unbreakable let alone unbreakable in the time window given.

 

[foxyladyland]

Plus Jiraiya can hide in the enemies shadows and stick to walls like a painting.

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does that hide jiraiya's chakra ? Itachi's sharingan can see chakra .

Amateratsu : is faster than a scroll sealing it . If Jiraiya uses his own hair to cover from Amateratsu then his hair will catch fire and (probably burn) then when he undoes the jutsu his body will catch fire maybe.

Tsukuyomi: can affect both Ma & Pa toad and including Jiraiya in 3 to 6 seconds if he targets them all.
Ma & Pa could wake him up , but Tsukuyomi is fast and those 2 could also fall victim of Tsukuyomi .

Fire style: Itachi can use the same combo of fire and amateratsu he used on Sasuke.

SOUND genjutsu is no problem for Itachi: as you can see he withstood it and worked through it plus blindness, paralysis.

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Itachi could still see while he was blind and he could still move while he was paralyzed . :itachi: Lol

He can also genjutsu summons .

 

[Da Best Ever]

man u showed a scan of the slowest non live combat seal in history...get the **** outta here, u made this thread but u need to get off of it if u gone use some stupid ass shit like that ass a counter

 

[End of Days]

there are many counters for amaterasu, clones for example are a simple counter

another is to hit the user while he is charging it, killer bee would have hit itachi were it not for nagato

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jiraiya with his speed in sage mode or fast techniques can do the same

other is using smoke bombs or dust techniques to disrupt the vision of the eye

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or using toad summons as distractions and using that opportunity to strike

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jiraiya didnt have the fire scroll prepped because he never foresaw a situation he might have need it, but after the first counter he would have kept a few scrolls with him, kakashi was better prepared for genjutsu the second tim he met itachi

amaterasu has been countered so many times i am surprised people still believe its a match winner technique, its not

 

[omarsen]

As much as I love Jiraya - sadly I think he would lose.
Its not a matter of who's stronger, Jiraya has the disadvantage here "Tsukuyoumi" - Amaterasu and Susano would be enough of a challenge for him, if you add Tsukuyoumi, Jiraya will more likely lose. If you add totsuka + Izanami/Izanagi - Jiraya is Definitely screwed!

So all in all, Jiraya loses against Itachi!

However . against an Ill Itachi - he has a Good chance, especially if he's familiar with itachis techs.

Itachi can't use Izanagi, no Senju DNA. Tsukuyoumi make itachi to stand still and focus all his chakra on the target. Mo & Pa will attack meanwhile in that shot period of time. Izanami agian and again wont work. Amaterasu he got shield against it. and Susanoo, its Gamabunta + 2 Tods, equal size.

 

[The Necromancer]

there are many counters for amaterasu, clones for example are a simple counter

another is to hit the user while he is charging it, killer bee would have hit itachi were it not for nagato

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jiraiya with his speed in sage mode or fast techniques can do the same

other is using smoke bombs or dust techniques to disrupt the vision of the eye

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or using toad summons as distractions and using that opportunity to strike

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jiraiya didnt have the fire scroll prepped because he never foresaw a situation he might have need it, but after the first counter he would have kept a few scrolls with him, kakashi was better prepared for genjutsu the second tim he met itachi

amaterasu has been countered so many times i am surprised people still believe its a match winner technique, its not

Actually it is. It one shots 95% of the narutovers. It's so OP that it's only EVER pitted against opponents who can counter it because otherwise the series would be over. Same with Kamui.