[Theory] Why Jinchuuriki Obito Resembles Rikudou Sennin

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Not related with this thread but when I saw the picture again of the jubi seeing naruto as the SO6P, I started to wonder did the Sage have the Rinnegan before becoming a Jin. In that picture you see the tailed beasts and the SO6P silhouette with the rinnegan. I wonder if Kishi showed that simply to put across to everybody that Naruto inherits the SO6Ps will to stop the Jubi and thats what the Jubi saw or is that a hint that the Jubi rememebrs the Sage by his eyes which means he had them before becoming its Jin.

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It is an artistic expression by Kishimoto to make it clear for us readers what the Juubi is seeing from its PoV, if Kishimoto drew the eyes without the Rinnegan then it would just confuse the readers on who the Juubi saw, since it is the most prominent trait of Rikudou, Kishimoto opted to display the Rinnegan on Rikudou's eyes to make it clear to us who the Juubi was actually seeing, which is Rikudou, also, a Bijuu can "see" through the eyes of their Jinchuurikis even when they are sealed inside a host.

 

[swagking]

But why does Naruto also look like Rikūdo while being only Kurama's Jinchūriki? It's because of the seal. An Uzumaki Seal, the same one Obito is using.

or because the ninetails comes from the ten tails being divided up by the sage and he is using the kyubis chakara? we havent seen others jinchuurikis do this because they dont have one half of the tailed beast chakara but the full thing thats why there hasnt been any other forms simila to KCM and narutos bijuu mode being different than the other tailedbeast modes

 

[churochill]

Bashin what's do you want to relieve the assumptions; a written note from kishi? Thumbs up bro btw nice theory

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

or because the ninetails comes from the ten tails being divided up by the sage and he is using the kyubis chakara? we havent seen others jinchuurikis do this because they dont have one half of the tailed beast chakara but the full thing thats why there hasnt been any other forms simila to KCM and narutos bijuu mode being different than the other tailedbeast modes

That's the point, the rest are complete Bijuus who also come from the Juubi, the Bijuus are the divided Chakra of the Juubi, complete or not, look at Hachibi: Hachibi is a Bijuu with a complete Chakra inside a perfect Jinchuuriki (Killer B) but he doesn't display a Rikudou-like appearance, they manifest the appearance of the Bijuu sealed inside them, and yet Naruto with only half of Kurama's Chakra is able to manifest the RS-look (what more if the Chakra was complete) which indicates its superior transformation, why? it's because of the Uzumaki Seal.

 

[21naruto21]

It has already been explained long ago that Rikudou Sennin had 2 sons that split into the Senju and Uchiha clans the Uzumaki Clan is a branch from the Senju clan which The Senju clan descended from the younger of the two sons of the Sage of the Six Paths who was born with the "body" of the Sage, inheriting his father's life force, physical energy, and believed that love was the key to bringing peace to the world. The Uchiha clan descended from the elder of the two sons of the Sage of the Six Paths. The elder brother inherited the Sage's "eyes", powerful chakra and spiritual energies. But it is said for an uchiha to awaken the Rinnegan you need to have both senju and uchiha DNA which is why Madara awoken the Rinnegan since he got senju DNA into his body from Hashirama. So all in all they both have part of the sages power because they are both descendants of the sage.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

It has already been explained long ago that Rikudou Sennin had 2 sons that split into the Senju and Uchiha clans the Uzumaki Clan is a branch from the Senju clan which The Senju clan descended from the younger of the two sons of the Sage of the Six Paths who was born with the "body" of the Sage, inheriting his father's life force, physical energy, and believed that love was the key to bringing peace to the world. The Uchiha clan descended from the elder of the two sons of the Sage of the Six Paths. The elder brother inherited the Sage's "eyes", powerful chakra and spiritual energies. But it is said for an uchiha to awaken the Rinnegan you need to have both senju and uchiha DNA which is why Madara awoken the Rinnegan since he got senju DNA into his body from Hashirama. So all in all they both have part of the sages power because they are both descendants of the sage.

Absolutely incorrect, the descendants of the Younger Son were specified as only the Senjus:

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Not the Uzumakis.

The Uzumakis are distant relatives of the Senjus and Uchihas because the apical ancestor of both Elder and Younger Sons was an Uzumaki: Rikudou Sennin

The Elder and Younger Sons of the Sage were merely creations from the Juubi's essence much like the Bijuus, the Elder Son is the Yin of the Juubi while the Younger Son is the Yang of the Juubi, the powers of the Senju and Uchiha come from the Juubi, the Uzumaki is Rikudou's original human heritage prior to becoming the Juubi's Jinchuuriki.

 

[siege]

Great thread, I find it hard to disagree with your theories I share many of them but your definitely a better writer than my self so keep it up

 

[mangafan321]

Then how did the other clan seal the other beasts how did they know it??? Pls

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Then how did the other clan seal the other beasts how did they know it??? Pls

They developed and used a weaker variant of the original,like Killer B's Iron Armor Seal, which he admits is inferior to Naruto's

 

[wondersland]

Nice thread derp, as always.
You did a great argument with the seals bro

 

[LeonArashi]

This is a "Rikudo sennin is an uzumaki thread" in disguise. Remember something very important, the sage of six paths is called that because he is the origin of six categories of jutsus: Dojutsu, Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, Taijutsu, Senjutsu and Fuuinjutsu.
the descendants of the younger son logically would be senju, uzumaki and a third clan.
the descendants of the older son logically would be the uchiha, hyuga and a final sixth clan.
each clan would inherit one of the "paths" which are one of the six categories of jutsu.
so logically the uzumaki inherited the technique from the younger son's children whom they inherited from the younger son and the sage originally.
so to correct your theory, due to patterns seen so far, perfect control in bijuu mode which we have seen in obito and naruto causes the similarity to the sage. So theoretically all perfect jinchuriki in bijuu mode should have some similar features to the sage, not just naruto and obito as all tailed beasts are originally from the juubi and the SO6P.

 

[Rchan81]

So I've read a few of your theories and they are solid. I just don't know if Kishi will explain in such details.

I'm not sure if you've addressed this, but besides appearance, does the seal used affect how much power can be unleashed. For example, Bee has the Iron Armor seal and is in full control Jin. If he were to change to Uzumaki seal would he get a powerup?

 

[lukasenko]

Quite the opposite, the unique RS-like appearances of Naruto, Minato and Obito indicates that the Seals they're using are
directly causative of their Rikudou-like appearances: Uzumaki Fūinjutsu.

i really can't buy into this. no offence, and i do appreciate the effort that you put in. Its not like ur just testing a hypothesis. ur basing everything on the fact that the seals on the belly do not resemble because of the separate bad and good chakra. - as far as i can tell, the cause is the sealing jutsu itself. And if you base ur observation in the similarity in the circles... based on my hypothessi i can simply tell that because there are just two circles, unlike obito, the jutsu is different...

You see my point? Too much assumption, thats why i am being too skeptic. The similarity does not prove any causation link itself... ur hypothesis and assumptions are. U can't just say that they are directly causative, when we don't even know the secrets of the bijuu sealing justus themselves...

 

[Black Ace]

This is a "Rikudo sennin is an uzumaki thread" in disguise. Remember something very important, the sage of six paths is called that because he is the origin of six categories of jutsus: Dojutsu, Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, Taijutsu, Senjutsu and Fuuinjutsu.
the descendants of the younger son logically would be senju, uzumaki and a third clan.
the descendants of the older son logically would be the uchiha, hyuga and a final sixth clan.
each clan would inherit one of the "paths" which are one of the six categories of jutsu.
so logically the uzumaki inherited the technique from the younger son's children whom they inherited from the younger son and the sage originally.
so to correct your theory, due to patterns seen so far, perfect control in bijuu mode which we have seen in obito and naruto causes the similarity to the sage. So theoretically all perfect jinchuriki in bijuu mode should have some similar features to the sage, not just naruto and obito as all tailed beasts are originally from the juubi and the SO6P.

Nice theory i can't even argue with that

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

This is a "Rikudo sennin is an uzumaki thread" in disguise. Remember something very important, the sage of six paths is called that because he is the origin of six categories of jutsus: Dojutsu, Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, Taijutsu, Senjutsu and Fuuinjutsu.
the descendants of the younger son logically would be senju, uzumaki and a third clan.
the descendants of the older son logically would be the uchiha, hyuga and a final sixth clan.
each clan would inherit one of the "paths" which are one of the six categories of jutsu.
so logically the uzumaki inherited the technique from the younger son's children whom they inherited from the younger son and the sage originally.
so to correct your theory, due to patterns seen so far, perfect control in bijuu mode which we have seen in obito and naruto causes the similarity to the sage. So theoretically all perfect jinchuriki in bijuu mode should have some similar features to the sage, not just naruto and obito as all tailed beasts are originally from the juubi and the SO6P.

Incorrect because Killer B is a Perfect Jinchūriki of Hachibii but has shown no similarities to the Sage even in Tailed Beast Mode, why? It's because his seal is the Iron Armor Seal, not an Uzumaki Seal

The Six Paths refer to the Rinnegan's Six Paths which are the Six Realms of Samsara, and you assuming these missing "third" and "fourth" clans is just unmeritorious conjecture.

i really can't buy into this. no offence, and i do appreciate the effort that you put in. Its not like ur just testing a hypothesis. ur basing everything on the fact that the seals on the belly do not resemble because of the separate bad and good chakra. - as far as i can tell, the cause is the sealing jutsu itself. And if you base ur observation in the similarity in the circles... based on my hypothessi i can simply tell that because there are just two circles, unlike obito, the jutsu is different...

You see my point? Too much assumption, thats why i am being too skeptic. The similarity does not prove any causation link itself... ur hypothesis and assumptions are. U can't just say that they are directly causative, when we don't even know the secrets of the bijuu sealing justus themselves...

I am basing the appearance not on the separation of the Yin and Yang Chakra but on the type of Seal used, Yin Chakra is not "bad chakra" that is a misconception. Yin and Yang is not "Evil" vs "Good"

All Uzumaki Fūinjutsu are Rikūdo's Jutsu. That is a logical certainty.

 

[flints]

that's a great theory

 

[AlexXx]

Stop with your fücking Uzumaki bullshit.

You speak as if your excuse of a theory had already been proven and base more crap theories on an unproven theory.

You're the biggest biggot in this base, that's what you are.

b!tch please, he make the best threads ever. when other comes up with sh!t like "what if tsunade had *** with madara, would the child be the new so6p?" he is the one who keeps the niveau of this site up, he and dr proof and some others who i cant remember

 

[Rchan81]

So I've read a few of your theories and they are solid. I just don't know if Kishi will explain in such details.

I'm not sure if you've addressed this, but besides appearance, does the seal used affect how much power can be unleashed. For example, Bee has the Iron Armor seal and is in full control Jin. If he were to change to Uzumaki seal would he get a powerup?

Hey derp, any thoughts?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Hey derp, any thoughts?

Well, a Non-Uzumaki Jinchuuriki will immediately die upon the extraction of their Bijuu (Kushina, being of the Uzumaki Blood, was able to survive Bijuu extraction) so "changing seals" is not at all possible, but if an Uzumaki seal was used at the moment Hachibi was sealed inside him, then he will be able to manifest the "RS-Look" and the increase power potential that goes along with it albeit to a lesser degree of power than Naruto and Kurama's. (because Kurama is the strongest Bijuu)

 

[Rchan81]

Well, a Non-Uzumaki Jinchuuriki will immediately die upon the extraction of their Bijuu (Kushina, being of the Uzumaki Blood, was able to survive Bijuu extraction) so "changing seals" is not at all possible, but if an Uzumaki seal was used at the moment Hachibi was sealed inside him, then he will be able to manifest the "RS-Look" and the increase power potential that goes along with it albeit to a lesser degree of power than Naruto and Kurama's. (because Kurama is the strongest Bijuu)

In Bee's case, I don't think the Hachibi needs to be extracted. Seal is there to contain the biju and allow the chakra meld. Removing the seal on Bee would allow the Hachibi to leave the host, but the Hachibi doesn't have that desire. So open seal... use the Naruto/Minato seal and Bee will look more like RS