Why Itachi Uchiha is practically (almost) INVINCIBLE!

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This is the incomplete Susanoo which occured after Gaara pulled him out of his Susanoo and he switched to Rinnegan, thus Susanoo started to become less complete and fade away:

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Susano has many versions. The ribs alone is v1 similar to what sasuke used against A. v2 is what sasuke used to break the pillars at the summit and that is similar to madara's version
 

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Susano has many versions. The ribs alone is v1 similar to what sasuke used against A. v2 is what sasuke used to break the pillars at the summit and that is similar to madara's version
If that is true and that isn't the full armored version of Madara's Susanoo, then you are right and I am wrong :) can you link the page with the Susanoo of Sasuke that is similar to Madara's?
 

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Welcome,

I will explain why as stated in the manga Itachi Uchiha is practically Invincible. There are two factors, his GENJUTSU and his LEGENDARY ITEMS.



Genjutsu:

Itachi's Tsukuyomi is almost a 1 shot ability, it has 1 weakness: If your target is blood related and has the Sharingan, he CAN break Tsukuyomi. This is a manga fact and was demonstrated by Sasuke. This is the only way to escape Tsukuyomi.

What this means is that if you are not blood related to Itachi, you must AVOID getting hit by Tsukuyomi or COUNTER it with a MORE powerful Genjutsu!

Chakra disruption DOESN'T work on ITACHI'S TSUKUYOMI! Why? Itachi is capable of manipulating the time of his Tsukuyomi (sasuke isn't), when you get hit by Tsukuyomi it STARTS and ENDS in 1 sec. 1 Sec = 24+ days if Itachi wants that.

People who can break Tsukuyomi:

1. Sage of the 6 Paths.
2. Sasuke Uchiha.

People who can AVOID or COUNTER Tsukuyomi with a more powerful genjutsu are:

1. Sage of the 6 Paths.
2. Madara Uchiha (Including Tobi Madara Uchiha).
3. Shishui Uchiha
4. Minato: Teleportation.



Legendary Items:

Itachi's Susanoo is by far the strongest and most superior Susanoo we have seen in the manga for two reasons. It holds the LEGENDARY YATA MIRROR and the LEGENDARY SWORD OF TOTSUKA. This combination totally demolishes 99% of the Shinobi's known, kage's, sanins etc.

To be able to SURVIVE vs Itachi you must be able to DODGE or BLOCK Sword of Totsuka STAB attack, if it stabs you even in your finger it is a 100% 1 shot kill. Orochimaru and Ultimate Nagato were 1 shotted by the Sword of Totsuka. Because the Sword of Totsuka is a liquid ETHERAL Sword, you can't break or destroy it.

The only characters that can AVOID the Sword of Totsuga are:

1. Sage of the 6 Paths: He is the god of Naruto storyline, nobody can defeat him and he can defeat anybody.
2. Madara Uchiha (Including Tobi Madara Uchiha, they are the same): The ability to shift out of reality and teleport.
3. Minato: His yellow flash ability, Teleportation.
4. Raikage (s): Both the Third and Fourth raikage have the speed to avoid Sword of Totsuka.
5. Naruto KM: Naruto's yellow flash matched and out speeds the fourth Raikage.

*Common misconception: Nagato can only block the first Sword of Totsuka stab with his Shinra Tensei, then it will have a 5 sec cooldown.

To be able to land a lethal strike on Itachi you must somehow by pass the YATA MIRROR which reflects everything, the only way to do this is teleportation.

The only characters that can teleport and pass the Yata Mirror are:

1. Sage of the 6 Paths.
2. Madara Uchiha (Including Tobi Madara Uchiha).
3. Minato: While the Kunais can't by pass the Yata Mirror, they can surround them and Minato can teleport from every 360* degree and find an opening, Minato is more Intelligent than Itachi so he is capable of doing this.

So the be able to beat Itachi you must have BOTH the abilities to AVOID Blade of Totsuka and BYPASS the Yata Mirror.

Hope this enlightened you guys a bit :cool:
Well he is practically invincible in that sense. But maybe we don't know enough because people like Hashirama might have had something to counter the legendary items + the bringer of darkness tech could counter tsukuyomi.
 
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As I said, Minato is more INTELLIGENT than Itachi, he is aware of this fact and as prediction he can keep teleporting around and launching his assaults. Might be wrong, but it is an option.



If I was a fanboy I would claim nobody can beat him, I am not doing that. I am clarifying his strength based on the manga :rolleyes:
Nice Thread..... As Guy said that watching the body of your opponent one might battle a Genjutsu. (when he face Kisame and Itachi the first time) Minato could find a blind spot in a sharingan user thru teleportation.
 
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Well he is practically invincible in that sense. But maybe we don't know enough because people like Hashirama might have had something to counter the legendary items + the bringer of darkness tech could counter tsukuyomi.
well hashirama is just that good since even the fearsome madara don't wan to hear his name anymore LOL
 

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1. Yes they are THAT strong, hence they are the Legendary Items and manga claimed they together with susanoo made Itachi practically (almost) Invincible.

2. Tobi didn't search for them because his goal is the realization Eye of the Moon plan. Also, he might have not needed them and those legendary items cannot defeat him so maybe he thought it was not improtant. Also, maybe Itachi already had them in his possession before he tried to search for them?
1. Legendary means nothing, the sannin are legendary and two of them were killed by not Legendary (by the time) enemies. the manga didn't claim that, Zetsu and only he did that claim, and also say that amateratsu ios the most powerfull jutsu (for example). so his claims make no fact to me.

2. Tobi was operative far before Itachi, and so Madara, yet neither searched them. if the weapons can't kill him as you said, and he (tobi) is a "pathethic shell of his former self" as claim of Itachi you are saying that they azren't THAT powerfull... of course, to a fodder ninja they would mean a losed battle... but are you sure YM can handle one of Muu/Oonoki jintons, which attack at a molecular level? I doubt it.
 

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re read the title (facepalm)
his post is implying the opposite all he' stated was people who can actually avoid tsuki.

1. Never claimed teleportation is genjutsu. I said you have to either avoid Tsukuyomi or counter it with stronger genjutsu. Teleportation spam of Minato is a smart way to prevent Tsukuyomi from hitting him.

2. Never claimed Itachi is invincible, you should read more carefully. I repeated what was said in the manga and explained why it was said.
yeah so whats your the point exactly we all know itachi is strong.
 

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If that is true and that isn't the full armored version of Madara's Susanoo, then you are right and I am wrong :) can you link the page with the Susanoo of Sasuke that is similar to Madara's?
Sasuke v1 susanoo

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Sasuke v2 susanoo

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v3 is what he used against danzo, if you notice it is more complete.

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We finally saw his final version for a brief time against kakashi
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Madara's v1
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Madara v2
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itachi isn't invincible but almost? yes.

and I too believe that itachi would have had a better chance at defeating tobi than minato would

1. minato didn't fight tobi AND the fox, he fought one and then went to fight the other.

IMO, fighting the fox would be less time-consuming than fighting tobi, since the fox is a huge target for totsuka
 

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Shin[B said:
[/B]obiX;4883102]As I said, Minato is more INTELLIGENT than Itachi, he is aware of this fact and as prediction he can keep teleporting around and launching his assaults. Might be wrong, but it is an option.



If I was a fanboy I would claim nobody can beat him, I am not doing that. I am clarifying his strength based on the manga :rolleyes:
"If I was a fanboy I would claim nobody can beat him" ..you have stated only four people can beat him. Big difference..What about the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Hokage? (You already said in another thread that Itachi "does not compare to the likes of these)..or something very close along those lines. What about Shishiu? (I know it is said that Itachi killed him but still..) What about the other Kages from their respective villages? (Except maybe Mei) Are they no match? Do they not stand even the slightest chance against the almighty Itachi? Fanboy.

Besides, why are you relying so much on what Zetsu says? I'm gonna go get Ino to say Sasuke is an invincible ninja and then I'll use that as a "manga fact".
 
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1. Legendary means nothing, the sannin are legendary and two of them were killed by not Legendary (by the time) enemies. the manga didn't claim that, Zetsu and only he did that claim, and also say that amateratsu ios the most powerfull jutsu (for example). so his claims make no fact to me.
Legendary items and humans are different, humans lose their power, items don't. Zetsu is right, Amaterasu is Itachi's strongest NINJUTSU.

2. Tobi was operative far before Itachi, and so Madara, yet neither searched them. if the weapons can't kill him as you said, and he (tobi) is a "pathethic shell of his former self" as claim of Itachi you are saying that they azren't THAT powerfull... of course, to a fodder ninja they would mean a losed battle... but are you sure YM can handle one of Muu/Oonoki jintons, which attack at a molecular level? I doubt it.
Yes the Yata Mirror can handle Muu and Oonoki Jintons, they are Ninjutsu, Yata Mirror repels them, doesn't matter if it is molecular.
 

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Welcome,

I will explain why as stated in the manga Itachi Uchiha is practically Invincible. There are two factors, his GENJUTSU and his LEGENDARY ITEMS.



Genjutsu:

Itachi's Tsukuyomi is almost a 1 shot ability, it has 1 weakness: If your target is blood related and has the Sharingan, he CAN break Tsukuyomi. This is a manga fact and was demonstrated by Sasuke. This is the only way to escape Tsukuyomi.

What this means is that if you are not blood related to Itachi, you must AVOID getting hit by Tsukuyomi or COUNTER it with a MORE powerful Genjutsu!

Chakra disruption DOESN'T work on ITACHI'S TSUKUYOMI! Why? Itachi is capable of manipulating the time of his Tsukuyomi (sasuke isn't), when you get hit by Tsukuyomi it STARTS and ENDS in 1 sec. 1 Sec = 24+ days if Itachi wants that.

People who can break Tsukuyomi:

1. Sage of the 6 Paths.
2. Sasuke Uchiha.

People who can AVOID or COUNTER Tsukuyomi with a more powerful genjutsu are:

1. Sage of the 6 Paths.
2. Madara Uchiha (Including Tobi Madara Uchiha).
3. Shishui Uchiha
4. Minato: Teleportation.



Legendary Items:

Itachi's Susanoo is by far the strongest and most superior Susanoo we have seen in the manga for two reasons. It holds the LEGENDARY YATA MIRROR and the LEGENDARY SWORD OF TOTSUKA. This combination totally demolishes 99% of the Shinobi's known, kage's, sanins etc.

To be able to SURVIVE vs Itachi you must be able to DODGE or BLOCK Sword of Totsuka STAB attack, if it stabs you even in your finger it is a 100% 1 shot kill. Orochimaru and Ultimate Nagato were 1 shotted by the Sword of Totsuka. Because the Sword of Totsuka is a liquid ETHERAL Sword, you can't break or destroy it.

The only characters that can AVOID the Sword of Totsuga are:

1. Sage of the 6 Paths: He is the god of Naruto storyline, nobody can defeat him and he can defeat anybody.
2. Madara Uchiha (Including Tobi Madara Uchiha, they are the same): The ability to shift out of reality and teleport.
3. Minato: His yellow flash ability, Teleportation.
4. Raikage (s): Both the Third and Fourth raikage have the speed to avoid Sword of Totsuka.
5. Naruto KM: Naruto's yellow flash matched and out speeds the fourth Raikage.

*Common misconception: Nagato can only block the first Sword of Totsuka stab with his Shinra Tensei, then it will have a 5 sec cooldown.

To be able to land a lethal strike on Itachi you must somehow by pass the YATA MIRROR which reflects everything, the only way to do this is teleportation.

The only characters that can teleport and pass the Yata Mirror are:

1. Sage of the 6 Paths.
2. Madara Uchiha (Including Tobi Madara Uchiha).
3. Minato: While the Kunais can't by pass the Yata Mirror, they can surround them and Minato can teleport from every 360* degree and find an opening, Minato is more Intelligent than Itachi so he is capable of doing this.

So the be able to beat Itachi you must have BOTH the abilities to AVOID Blade of Totsuka and BYPASS the Yata Mirror.

Hope this enlightened you guys a bit :cool:
Well Nagato could pull Itachi out of susanoo so it's not just through teleportation but I agree what virtually makes Itachi invincible are those two legendary items that orochimaru had been looking for but itachi found. I'm not sure but I think those two items belonged to the sage of the six paths.
 

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Sasuke v1 susanoo

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Sasuke v2 susanoo

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v3 is what he used against danzo, if you notice it is more complete.

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We finally saw his final version for a brief time against kakashi
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Madara's v1
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Madara v2
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You are right, thanks for clearing it up. + rep.
 
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