make your own manga then i'll compare the two and i'll be the judge on whos is better.sometime PNJ makes me sick, especially when some good guys are about to get killed, someone conveniently interrupt or dirstracts them and the damsel in distress gets saved :sy:
I feel Kishi is going too soft in this manga sometimes
Why isn't Madara using other Rinnegan and Sharingan techniques?
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Uchihajin Sasuke
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I understand his mentality that the kages aren't worthy of his full effort, but come on Itachi is about to cancel the edo-tensei and if I were him I would kill as many kages as possible before the edo-tensei ends : rolleyes:Madara said that his battle with the Kages is a little game.
Uchihajin Sasuke
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I understand his mentality that the kages aren't worthy of his full effort, but come on Itachi is about to cancel the edo-tensei and if I were him I would kill as many kages as possible before the edo-tensei endsMadara said that his battle with the Kages is a little game.
Right, but he doesn't know about what Itachi is up to according to our knowledge unless Kabuto were to somehow inform him, and didn't Muu recently leave the scene of the fight of ET Madara vs. the 5 Kages. Thus, I don't think he knows anything about the potential threat to IWR posed by Itachi.I understand his mentality that the kages aren't worthy of his full effort, but come on Itachi is about to cancel the edo-tensei and if I were him I would kill as many kages as possible before the edo-tensei ends
Recently for example, he used a Mokutoun clone, which he said he was previously the only to be able to distinguish because of his eyes (i.e. his 3-tomoe Sharingan, or MS/EMS [not sure if they improve visual discrimination since Itachi didn't note it]), when he could've used a simple shadow clone. He's screwing around with Hashirama's powers vs. when he started the fight and he came out as an Uchiha with his first move a massive fire release (the fire release: fireball jutsu is what defines an Uchiha as an adult if I recall Fugaku to Sasuke correctly). He then followed that up a combination of EMS (only Susanoo) and Rinnegan jutsu such as Shinra Tensei and the Kinjutsu to reign down to massive meteorites on the alliance forces. Ever since then it's been Mokutoun largely.
Now I don't think it's because he has some stupid man crush on Hashirama that he's spamming Mokutoun jutsu, but because he wants to master it or at the very least become proficient in the powers that he faced and found sufficiently difficult each and every time he fought Hashirama to use later on. Same thing every time you get something new and cool.
Still..., if he has Tsukiyomi and Ameratsu..., actually let's assume he does. Tsunade came straight on, and as noted was not terribly fast, possibly could've landed one of those two techniques on her, so why didn't he? I'm at a personal loss as to why if he really wants to kill the 5 Kage he doesn't use them or his 4th EMS technique. Honestly, right now they're set up for Tsukiyomi since he hasn't used genjutsu against them making them more likely to make eye contact, such as Tsunade did during her speech about the Will of Fire and the medical ninja rules. Didn't Tsunade just stand right up to him giving him a speech, making her a perfect target? As well, when they sealed his Mokutoun clone, they lowered their guard making some of them perfect targets for Ameratsu or any attack, but all he did was impale Tsunade with an attack she can likely repair from with Mitotic regeneration based on what we've seen her heal from against Orochimaru dicing her to pieces with the sword of Kusanagi, trying to get to Naruto pre-time-skip.
My best explanation atm... a combination of plot no jutsu and Madara's behavioral profile. ET Madara is holding back in order to prolong the fight, and/or he just wants to win using his new powers since he already knows the limits of his other abilities (i.e. EMS and to a decent extent the Rinnegan) and that of his opponents, the 5 Kage. If he was fighting someone like Hashirama or of that level, I highly doubt he would hesitate to use whatever the appropriate jutsu and corresponding advantage it conferred in his arsenal to win whether it came from his EMS, Rinnegan, his enhanced Mokutoun via Kabuto, or ET regenerative abilities, etc... - quite considerable...
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Kratos of cruxis
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Go to google type in madara uchiha click on his narutopeida page they will have a list of his justu and ama and tsyuki will be on his list if yu stil dont believe it click on susanoo and read about it they will state yu need ama and tsyuki to active it
Whiteknight
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Here are a few possibilities:
1. Madara does not have Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, or the advanced-stage Susanoo. Different MS eyes have different techniques (Suisui had his powerful genjutsu and Kakashi has Kamui, but not the others). This means that Itachi and Sasuke are potentially stronger or more highly evolved than Madara, or at least have eyes with more techniques than he had.
2. Madara does not have Shinra Tensei or Bansho Ten'in for a similar reason. Maybe the Rinnegan don't always give all the same abilities to all users. Nagato had a different set than Madara, due to his Uzumaki heritage (and Uzumaki are related to the Senju)
3. Madara awakened his Rinnegan "shortly" before his death, so he didn't have a lot of time to practice Rinnegan techniques. He did have a lot of time to perfect his EMS techniques (which is why he's spamming Susanoo) and had time to work with the wood techniques he stole after the valley of the end, but didn't have much practice with Rinnegan
4. We know that Pain could not use Shinra tensei or bansho ten'in more often than 5 seconds apart, and that larger blasts took more recharge time. In a battle with opponents as fast as the Raikage such recharge time may be impossible. Madara isn't stupid enough to leave himself so defenseless for 5 seconds at a time.
5. Considering he's fighting 5 kages by himself, he needs to pick techniques that work in this situation and that conserve his chakra for a prolonged battle. Susannoo and wood release give him both overwhelming offensive power and "good enough" defensive power. He needs Susannoo for the defense, so using Amaterasu at the same time just eats up chakra faster. Susannoo already has a sword, so he can use that for offense without using more chakra.
6. The Kages are aware of the various rinnegan techniques and are prepared to defend against them. Not using chakra blasts (which can be absorbed), and keeping chakra in your feet (to prevent bansho ten'in) makes those techniques worthless. Preta path mechanical techniques may be less powerful than wood-release techniques. Madara might not currently have any summoning contracts (the only thing we've seen him try was to summon the fox, which is sealed away).
Wolfang714
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I'm no sure about the Sharingan issue, but he's probably not using other paths of the Rinnegan because he doesn't know how. He's only had right before his death, not enough time to learn - I guess he has to go off of what he heard, maybe he heard about the Preta Path and its abilities which is why he can use it.
Lol this Edo Madara aint even geting started yet...
He only thinks , that First Hokage is the only one worthy , to go all out.
He's pushing the Kages so all of them would use "that jutsu" on him.
each time they do "that jutsu" , he tries to counter them or show them more superior technique.
He wont kill the Kages...He will just...wear them off to give Tobi time to capture the bjuus and go on with the plan.
He only thinks , that First Hokage is the only one worthy , to go all out.
He's pushing the Kages so all of them would use "that jutsu" on him.
each time they do "that jutsu" , he tries to counter them or show them more superior technique.
He wont kill the Kages...He will just...wear them off to give Tobi time to capture the bjuus and go on with the plan.
StrifeMaccy
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his EMS powers will be saved for his battle with Hashirama, and we've seen the Rinnengans powers, the base sharingan powers now, so Kishi is showing us the fusion of a Susanno wielding super farmer of death!
edo tensai wilmaso
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simple ... he never got to use these powers ....i got a feeling madara got his rinnengan when we was old and could not perform these jutsus , now that he's in his prime plus rinne he gots to have a lil bit of fun. ya digg
Madara does have Tsukuyomi and Amateratsu. I'm tired of debating this. The 3rd Databook clearly states you need them both to have Susanoo. I mean it CLEARLY states that you need those two specific eye techs to gain the "God" Susanoo. What Madara is doing now is just testing his powers. He is pretty much toying with them. If he can preta path and launch meteors then he can def use shinra tensei and the other paths.