Why isn't Madara using other Rinnegan and Sharingan techniques?
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show me the link to the data book.
from what i have read susano'o is awakened once both techs in both eyes have been awakened, they do not necessarily have to be amateratsu or tsukuyomi.
You go search for a link I know what I read. It says that you need Tsukuyomi(Darkness) and Amateratsu(Light) to awaken the "god" Susanoo in the Data Book. Its goes in more detail but that is exactly what I remember reading. Its all tied to Japanese mythology for even further proof. Also read what your link says. It says AFTER AWAKENING THE "ABILITIES" IN BOTH EYES YOU ARE GRANTED SUSANOO. That is exactly what Sasuke did. He awoken Tsukuyomi first then Amateratsu then Susanoo.
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It was said in the databooks but....
Here Itachi states that Susano'o awoke with Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.
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Then here, Sasuke says that only those who have the double (two) Mangekyo can use that power.
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The manga pages don't EXPLICITLY state that you need those two powers, but seeing as two of the three users of Susano'o have Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi usage, we can conclude that those are the two powers you need to use in correlation to use Susano'o.
We also cannot say that all Mangekyo activate the same jutsu seeing as Kakashi has Kamui and Shisui had Kotoamatsukami.
66% chance of that being the case until we see Madara using any other Sharingan techniques.
Dude they have to be Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi this is why Susanoo is so rare. Here is why. It's tied to Japanese mythology. Susanoo is the brother of Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi.
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Okay I'm done here. When this manga has things based off of Japanese mythology and you cant even put two and two together. This is when you should just quit a argument. Data book says you need both and I have given your further proof. I think its just very sad how people can't concede even when its right there in front of them.
Translation of the Technique Susanoo from the DataBook.
The two doujutsu: "Amaterasu" and its ability to show "Things of substance and light", and "Tsukiyomi" and its ability to show "Things of without substance and darkness" are only usable when the user is able to use Mangekyou Sharingan, or heaven's eyes, eyes that can see the origin of why everything is as the way it is. Only those that have been able to use both of these doujutsu can use the power of the malevolent god "Susanoo". The chakra that has taken form appears as a powerful looking war god that won't stop until all enemies in front of this fierce spirit are destroyed. The reason "Susanoo" is prided on having flawless offense and defense is because of -- The "Spiritual Weapons" that he has in both of his hands. In his right hand is the "Totsukano Tsurugi" which can slash any enemy. In his left lies the "Yatano Kagami" which can reflect any attack. Physical forms, spiritual forms, ninjutsu, and physical attacks lose all meaning when faced against the power of god.
Direct translation from the Databook 3.
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Read my post above I edited it. Also the Databook 3 was never released in english I don't think. Its been translated(scans here and there) on in a few parts but never finished. People still translated and wrote exactly what was said from the book.
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Full translation.
NINJUTSU; KEKKEI GENKAI: Susanoo (Mysterious, All-Encompassing Assistance Ability*)
User: Uchiha Itachi
Offensive; Defensive; Close, Medium, Long ranges; Rank: none
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There are two doujutsu the use of which is allowed exclusively to those who have awakened to the clairvoyant eyes of Heaven, the Mangekyou Sharingan: Amaterasu, which speaks of Light and the material world, and Tsukuyomi, symbolizing the spiritual world and Darkness**. Only in them who hold both of those, dwells the power of the wild, rampaging god... Susanoo. The materialized chakra shapes itself after the wargod's commanding face and powerful physique, and the fierce spirit won't subside until the destruction of all the enemies in its line of sight...!!
There's a reason why Susanoo can boast perfect flawlessness in its offense and defense: the spiritual weapons it holds in both hands. The Sword of Totsuka* in its right hand, which will mow down any kind of enemy, and the Mirror of Yata*, upon which all attacks will bounce back. Substantial or spiritual, and then ninjutsu or physical attacks lose all kinds of significance before the god's efficacy.
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-In the pupils that grasp the principles behind Heaven and Earth, dwells the valorous sword-wielding, shield-bearing Aragami***!!
-Protecting its caster, it destroys the enemy!
-In its left and right hands are held the unparalleled, wondrous Sacred Treasures* of virtues miraculous.
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-Only those who have carried mastery of Mangekyou Sharingan - the doujutsu feared by those around it as the strongest - to its extremes will come onto the god's territory. A guardian deity to its caster, it eats away their life at the same time.
-The sake flowing out of the gourd assumes the shape of a sword, becoming the Totsuka! In addition, the souls absorbed by it are sealed there.
-The Sword of Totsuka
One swing of the Sword of Kusanagi* has the power to throw the people it stabs into an genjutsu world of intoxicating dreams, and seal them away for eternity. The sword itself carries a fuuinjutsu.
-The Mirror of Yata
The substance-less spiritual shield. Endowed will all Nature Alterations, it changes its own attributes in response to the attacks it receives, making the jutsu ineffective.
*Susanoo, God of storms. Mess around with the spelling and you get your extra meaning. Totsuka has been altered too, but I have no idea what "Ten Fists" could possibly mean. To make a long story short, the weapons mentioned in there are named after the Japanese imperial regalia, which according to myth, were used to defeat Yamata no Orochi, the giant eight-headed snake. The sake and intoxication bit is reminescent of the way Susanoo tricked the serpent into drinking itself under the table to make it easier to kill. And IIRC, Kusanagi is just an alternate name for a sword that was originally named Totsuka.
**Probably some Yin and Yang shtick or something going on, there...
***Aragami=Fierce God.
Right there is your proof and I'm off.
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It looks like it is only talking about Itachi's susano'o, because it is using way too specific of terms. for example, it says susano'o can use the weapon that can cut through any enemy and the mirror that can reflect any attack. as we know, only itachi's susano'o is capable of doing that. maybe in itachi's particular case this is how his was activated
but i guess for now i will agree U_U i admit defeat for now.
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Why are you doing this to your self? Why oh why? It explains how to gain Susanoo then goes into detail about ITACHI's version of Susanoo. It talks about the weapons ITACHI's Susanoo carries for the simple fact that this databook only has info on one Susanoo and the one is "Itachi's" Susanoo because of the timing of the book. So read clearly it states you need both Ama and Tsu to unlock Susanoo(which makes it perfectly clear you need these two not any other MS techs but these two specific techs) then under that it says what? I really am done this time. Some people can't stand losing arguments and you are one of them. I don't know why its so hard to just admit defeat but instead you want to act like your stupid. Its right there and it goes into detail why you need those two specific techniques to unlock Susanoo.
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