Why isn't Kabuto unsumonning Itachi's edo-tensei?

[Zaiigoukyou]

Controlling, summoning and unsommoning an Edo and completely ending the technique are different things, I wonder what's so hard to understand about that. :|

Kabuto was supposed to be using the mind controlling talismans in order to control the movements of his Edo's. Itachi overwrote said talisman with Kotoamatsukami. That's why Kabuto can't specifically control Itachi at the moment.
It's not certain if summoning and unsummoning are abilities that the talisman grant, but it doesn't matter. Under no circumstances would Kabuto summon an edo Itachi that is coming to get him to his side anyway.
But I guess they are attributes of the talisman, otherwise he could have closed him in a coffin. :shrug:

Anyways...
Edo control and ending the Edo Tensei completely are two entirely different things.
The talisman that Itachi overwrote was what Kabuto used to control the Edo's.
The Edo Tensei technique itself is binding the resurrected souls to the bodies.
When the technique ends, no matter if Kabuto could mind control the Edo or not, every Edo will turn to dust.
They're two seperate things.

the talisman don't control the movements of an edo tensei.
ALl they do is eliminate the personalities of the edos and give the edo vitality..

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Since the personalities are erased it makes the edo's easy to control.

Second of all Kabuto does use the talisman but its not the same exact one Orochimaru uses.

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This one grants the edo more free will but he can step in anytime and manually control each and every edo at will. Kabuto lets them fight with increased free will because no one can use the edo's full abilities better then the edos themselves...

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But they are times where he forces the edo's to fight.



I don't understand why people are overcomplicating the matter

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Kabuto forms a link to control the edos. Itachi broke the link with a genjutsu that rewrote the jutsu that provides kabuto the link to control the edos specifically in this case Itachi himself.

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All Itachi did was rewrite the instructions of his edo with a genjutsu cancelling out Kabuto's control.

If Kabuto can't even control Itachi's movements anymore how in the heck could he unsummon him. The link is broken. Simple. Nothing more nothing less.


P.S. The difference between Kabuto's talisman and Orochimaru's talisman is that Kabuto's talisman does not fully erase the personality of the edo. Kabuto did that to gain a psychological advantage over his enemies.

A.K.A Asuma vs his old team.

 

[Qcks]

guys

ask yourselfs why he summoned itachi to begin with?

Itachi has legendary weapons that kabuto's master orocihmaru searched for them his whole life.

He wnats to fight itachi, i hope itachi realises he make kabuto even more stronger than he is with madara.

I think itachi will probaly do a screwup here.

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I think that Kabuto is using Itachi to lure Sasuke to him, but that's about where I end my speculation really.

The only other real bit of information we know is that Kabuto thinks Orochimaru is still sealed in Sasuke.

 

[Kirin Rei]

the talisman don't control the movements of an edo tensei.
ALl they do is eliminate the personalities of the edos and give the edo vitality..

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Since the personalities are erased it makes the edo's easy to control.

You are aware that you're contradicting yourself with the manga pages you posted, aren't you?
The Edo's are having conversations with their opponents while being controlled.
That, single handedly negates your claim that the talismans only wipe out the personalities. :|

Talismans do control the movements of the Edo's. The only difference there is, is that by also locking away the personality, you eliminate the possibility of the Edo rebelling against you.

Second of all Kabuto does use the talisman but its not the same exact one Orochimaru uses.

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This one grants the edo more free will but he can step in anytime and manually control each and every edo at will. Kabuto lets them fight with increased free will because no one can use the edo's full abilities better then the edos themselves...

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But they are times where he forces the edo's to fight.

Nothing of relevancy here.

I don't understand why people are overcomplicating the matter

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Kabuto forms a link to control the edos. Itachi broke the link with a genjutsu that rewrote the jutsu that provides kabuto the link to control the edos specifically in this case Itachi himself.

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All Itachi did was rewrite the instructions of his edo with a genjutsu cancelling out Kabuto's control.
If Kabuto can't even control Itachi's movements anymore how in the heck could he unsummon him. The link is broken. Simple. Nothing more nothing less.

Itachi didn't overwrite Edo Tensei. He overwrote the talisman that was controlling him.
He is still a zombie. His soul is still bound to the sacrificial body by Edo Tensei, Kabuto's jutsu. Edo Tensei Jutsu as a whole and controlling talismans are two entirely different things.
Let me give you an example.

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In the bottom right panel, we see Torune just after he was resurrected without the talisman implanted in him.
He is conscious, his movements can't be controlled by Kabuto and he's questioning his whereabouts. He is in the state Itachi is in right now.
That doesn't change the fact that he's still an Edo Tensei.
If Kabuto completely ends the technique, he will turn to dust.

The same goes for Itachi.
He still is an Edo Tensei, but he's in the state Torune was before the talisman was implanted. Meaning, Kabuto can't control his movements, but if he ends the technique completely Itachi will turn to dust.

Is it clear enough?

 

[Necron]

I don't think he can, since his controll over Itachi was lost...

 

[Shadowhaze]

i think that its either Shishui's Eye or its the fact that maybe Kabuto might know that Tobi would be a hinder to his plans. whatever plans they are. And because of that he isnt doing that to his Edo. If that is the case he must be thinking that only Naruto could stop Tobi. So he isnt recalling Itachi

 

[hearteaterx]

The obvious answer is that Kabuto isn't reverse summoning Itachi because he can't. Koto amatsukami freed Itachi from the reanimation jutsu, Kabuto has no connection to Itachi now.

 

[teutonicknite]

What they said! Hitachi used Shisuis eyes to release Kabuto's hold on him! The genjutsu is actually on Kabuto is what I think!

 

[Rexoniel]

What they said! Hitachi used Shisuis eyes to release Kabuto's hold on him! The genjutsu is actually on Kabuto is what I think!

And I think anyone who believes the genjutsu was casted on Kabuto instead of Itachi is an idiot. :sy: The command programmed into the eye was "Protect Konoha." not "Make Itachi protect Konoha." If Kabuto had been hit by it, he'd be aiding the alliance instead. It was initally intended to be used on Sasuke to force him into being a good guy.

 

[yoshimitsu]

maybe he intends to somehow release orochimaru from within itachi's gourdsword.

 

[Draydn]

He broke out of EDO TENSEI, not just Kabuto's control. How many times does Kishi need to make this clear?

^ This.

 

[JakeLife510]

So if the Genjutsu was "Protect Konoha" why hasn't he fought against Sasuke because he wants to destroy Konoha?

How powerful is Kotoamtsukami?

 

[AbukariDogMan]

If he broke out of edo tensei then how i he stil moving around? That's just stupid, he is clearly still an edo tensei, kabutos jutsu, we can see that. Kabuto just doesn't want to b break the jutsu because he has to cancel ALL the edo SUMMONS. and that might change the course of the war, or kishi just wants to keep itachi in the story to keep the fun boys interested in the NEXT CHAPTER .

 

[Inspector]

I dont know if this is said but kabuto said to tobi that you can't stop an edo unless you seal him so i dont think you can undo it at any point

 

[Kirin Rei]

I dont know if this is said but kabuto said to tobi that you can't stop an edo unless you seal him so i dont think you can undo it at any point

But he also said that to end the technique completely the caster had to perform the tiger, dog, rat (I'm pulling the necessary seals out of my arse) hand seals and say ''Kai''.

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[iSpeak]

If he broke out of edo tensei then how i he stil moving around? That's just stupid, he is clearly still an edo tensei, kabutos jutsu, we can see that. Kabuto just doesn't want to b break the jutsu because he has to cancel ALL the edo SUMMONS. and that might change the course of the war, or kishi just wants to keep itachi in the story to keep the fun boys interested in the NEXT CHAPTER .

He is still an Edo body, but he isn't under the Edo Tensei Jutsu. Meaning if Kabuto tried to unsommon him, he would still be around. Right now he is just a dead body moving. It is been stated MANY times that it was Edo Tensei he broke out of, but people just don't want to accept it. If Itachi was still an Edo, he would turn to dust after forcing Kabuto to release the Jutsu. Then Kabuto could just resummon them... stupid move isnt it?
Where did you get the idea that he has to cancel all the summons? Your making stuff up. No summoning is resctricted to that. He doesn't need to summon them all at once so why would he need to unsommon them at once? Even if that was true, he can simply have Madara and Muu retreat for a while so he can unsommon Itachi. His life is being risked with Itachi coming after him and he knows that. Kabuto isn't stupid.
Breaking from Kabuto's control only wouldn't have been that big of a deal. Hanzo managed to do the same thing for a while and he doesn't even have Koto. It was breaking out of Edo Tensei which was unbelievable. And is why Kabuto said he is on another level to the rest.

 

[Aze]

Shisuis eye tech makes Edo tensei look like a piece of nothing..

If it where spamable , the Manga would be over in 1 chapter.

 

[Wakizashi]

Maybe all the edo's are connected somehow?..if you call back one all of them would be called back?..just my guess.

imo he's right. if he tried to reverse summon one then he would have to reverse summon them all.

 

[HighDef]

Some people on these forums are really, really slow.

 

[saltal]

Have you considered the possibility that Kabuto *wants* Itachi to get close? Currently he controls the remaining Edo's by remote control, but Orochimaru stuck these red cards into the back of the 1st and 2nd Hokage and had full control then. Perhaps Kabuto hopes to lure Itachi close enough that he could do the same (kind of like pressing the power shutoff button when soft shutdown does not work...).

 

[yeahhh]

I am sure someone mentioned this, but I am not about to read all the posts to find out.

If he rleased it it would unsummon all the Edo Tensei summons not just Itachi..all Itachi did was break from Kabuto's control, not free from the technique itself