Why is Tsunade so underated?

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This is why Tsunade shouldn't be underrated.
  • Huge Chakra Reserves - I think this point really expresses itself. Being a Senju and being gifted with the Senju body of the Sage and the Uzumaki longevity she has been granted a lot of chakra which is how she healed the entire village during Pein's attack twice or how she could heal from the Heavenly transfer technique, heal 3 kages back to 100% attack Madara and regenerate her stomach, organs and spine twice(Yasaka Magatama and Susanoo Sword) when Kabuto couldn't heal from the damage of a rasengan
  • Creation Rebirth/ Byakougou - Either of these two techniques grant her immortality in battle
  • Unparalleled Strength- Her strength is unparalleled. According to the databook and Naruto Wiki Tsunade naturally has monster strength. However she adds to her punches and kicks by building chakra in the body part that is going to make contact then releasing it as soon as contact is made... essentially it's chakra explosions. She took Orochimaru out with one punch when his body was fairly healthy. (not his arms but his body). In perspective a sick Oro withstood 4tails naruto attacks
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    Heavenly Kick of Pain (keeping in mind the feet are the most difficult place to gather chakra and she destroyed two buildings with the shockwave of her kick and created ample rubble to throw)
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    Just one finger
    Again in perspective naruto fell into the chasm created by one finger and his whole body fit inside of it
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    Tanzuka Town
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    Susanoo
    This cracked Susanoo
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    And this broke it
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    And this broke the sword
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    Madara's clone
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    Gamabunta's Sword - Because this is not a strike and thus no chakra explosion this is her legendary strength unamplified
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    And According to the Naruto Wiki
    However, while Sakura's strength derives from this technique, Tsunade has been noted to possess incredible raw strength much greater than this ability, which is enhanced even further to monstrous levels when using it.
  • Precise Chakra Control- Once again fairly self explanatory and I think her yin seal proves it. In addition to her strength. And the fact that she is heralded as the greatest Medical Ninja in the world and medical ninjutsu is known to require precise chakra control, or how she is able to use more than one technique at once (Transformation+Byakougou+Chakra Enhanced Strength)
  • Intelligence-Take the war with Pein for instance, she strategically sent Naruto away to get stronger rather than following the advice the advisers, rather than taking pein head on, she healed the entire village, she had Katsuya everywhere that way everyone could gain more info on Pein instantly. In the fight with Madara she devised an attack on Madara so that the other kages could attack him while he responded to her attack. When she was fighting kabuto and her lungs were messed up she pseudoparalyzed him so that she could heal. As per her rules for Medical Ninja she understands the strategies necessary to keep a team alive.Even in battle she's shown intellect
    Even in battle she's shown intelligence
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    Apparently she messed up his nervous system which allowed her to attack, and to heal herself.
    What about this:
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    She used the tools of her surrounding to defeat Manda with one move. She just put Orochimaru in check.
    What about this:
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    She just put Orochimaru in Check Mate by ensuring he had no choice but to take the full brunt of her punch. She decided to end the battle with one punch.
    Or this:
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    She figured out exactly where Kabuto was going to attack, dodged, and counter attacked.
    How about this:
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    She was well aware of the potential damage done by a complete rasengan and decided not to tank the jutsu but to diffuse the power before it even reached her.
    Even This:
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    She completely disarmed him and attacked a pressure point.
    This:
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    She must have calculated the force necesssary to send Naruto away and making him feel pain in conjunction to how much force to put into throwing the kunai in order to make sure she didn't kill him but scare him and make realize she could've killed him. And the timing necessary for the dramatics.
    And This
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    Healing the other kages was a very bad idea because Oonoki was on his death bed.... This was a great a move.
    Just from the rules of medical ninja you can tell she understands warfare and battle strategy.
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    I know you may try to use this as a counter-argument
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    But all of the kage were tricked, WE don't even know when he switched himself with a clone, he said he was the only person able to see through the wood clone, and Tsunade had enough sense to prepare Byakougou in advance in case she should be surprised by something.
    This was also intelligent
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    As you can see it actually pierced Susanoo
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    but she used the attack as a distraction
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    And as Tsunade points out they did force Madara into a position where the wood clone he used was necessary.
  • Medical Ninjutsu- self-healing techniques only paralleled by Hashirama, but in general medical jutsu she is unmatched. Which is why Lee is a shinobi today. Why Oro came to her, when he already had Kabuto, why she was able to heal an entire village at once, and why she was able to quickly and near effortlessly undue the damage done to Kakashi and Sasuke by Itachi's Tsukyomi. Which leads me to believe that Genjutsu won't be very effective on her as she firstly has such excellent chakra control as mentioned above so if she stops her chakra flow the genjutsu is ended in addition to knowledge of how it works, how it affects the brain, and how to treat it. We've seen her use medical ninjutsu offensively
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    and gather from her thought here she must be able to fight in a way similar to Kabuto or she'd have no way to compare their fighting style with medical ninjutsu
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  • Katsuya- I think Katsuya is underated. No she isn't really a battle slug but consider this a hundred of those kid-sized katsuyas spitting acid. Or given how Tsunade was able to heal the village through Katsuya and she was going to kill Orochimaru with Medical Ninjutsu if a small katsuya a few inches long is stuck on an opponent Tsunade needs only to channel the technique through Katsuya to kill an opponent. I can see Tsunade inacting this jutsu while multitasking as she always holds the jutsu that keeps her looking young, while using augmented monster strength, while using forbidden jutsus, or how she keeps up her technique while she heals.In addition to the obvious fact that Katsuya can crush people.
    At first i thought Raikage but then i started going into thinking of the slug summoing. What is Raikage going to do to the Slug summoning? He could hit it but then it would mulitply into a huge amount of slugs keep in mind it slip into enough slugs that it could heal every person in the hidden leave village, that is a great feat. With the slug being able to multiply into that many more of the stage is under her control and each of those slugs can spit acid which will burn his skin. This will either kill or leave an opening for many of tsuandes great feast for example her 1 hitter quicker
    Heavenly kick of pain
    She can derange his body and raikage based on watching his fighting style will not be able to figure it out in time before hes open for a Heavenly kick of Pain or one of her punches and her punches we know are strong alone she can even chakra enhance it i mean my vote is on Tsuande.
  • Body Pathway Derangement- This technique would disable nearly anyone who does not have a lightening cloak. Kabuto was a prodigy and it took him some time to figure out how to move. Should she use this technique she could smash her opponent while they were unable to move or you know slit their throat.
  • Dexterity-Contrary to popular belief Tsunade is not slow. She's only ever been hit four times in combat from what we've seen.
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    Here she was already injured if you ever been able to not move your stomach you'd understand why this why undodgeable
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    Yeah this was her fault for prematurely thinking they defeated Madara and dropping her guard
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    This however was strategy
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    And in terms of dodging this is nothing to scoff at. Not only did she not know exactly where he was. But she was able to perceive and dodge before he landed the attack.
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    And here obvious easy dodges of Naruto.
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    Here she protects Naruto three times with great speed as no one saw her get into position to protect him they only saw her getting hit (these were her out of combat and still terrorized by blood)
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    Notice where she starts and Jiraiya only gets to form one hand seal before the blade is there
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  • Durability
    Ok so as seen above she tanked her arm muscles and abdomen muscles being cut
    She tanked her respiratory muscles being cut
    Then out of battle she tanked the sword of Kusanagi thrice
    Look at that wound
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    Also as seen above she tanked Susanoo sword and yasaka magatama.
    She also tanked Shinra Tensei without healing herself
    • Here she is healing the village and the seal in unbroken.
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    • Here she is talking to Pein after she's healed the village. The seal is still unbroken (using multiple pictures to show its not a mistake like when Kishi accidently gave raikage back his arm)
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      (it looks as though Tsunade was about to fight him based on what the Anbu said)
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    • This is Tsunade chasing after Pein to stop him, making her closer to the initial point of contact for Shinra Tensei FP - seal unbroken
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      This is Tsunade after she's realized he's got more up his sleeves than what has already been used the seal is still unbroken (using this picture to show that Tsunade isn't running away from the epicenter of Shinra Tensei in the picture above)
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    • This is Tsunade after Shinra Tensei hits -no seal
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      What's even more impressive is that she didn't use Creation Rebirth on herself as she's bleeding.
      Tsunade used Katsuya to protect the other villagers but there is not Katsuyu with her.
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    • Bearing in mind Tsunade has already expended a lot of chakra to heal the villagers, then tanking a full Shinra Tensei up close in personal is quite a feat.
      And she had the stamina to climb from under the collaspbed building and beat the Anbu to the scene
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      before ... being blitzed.
    • So My point being after healing the village, and summoning Katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra to summon large creatures)
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      she tanked Shinra Tensei and rehealed the village.
  • Best choice for the job
    Even Jiraiya thought she was the best person for the position as 5th hokage
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Against Pein Jiraiya would not have known his secrets as hokage and still would've died. It was Jiraiya's death that pushed Naruto to learn Sage Mode. So if Jiraiya were hokage Naruto wouldn't have been strong enough to defeat Pein.
If Kakashi were hokage... he still would've died the same way but he would have listened to the advisers and kept Naruto in the village and when Pein attacked he would have been screwed. We've never really seen Kakashi disobey people who seemingly have authority over him as an adult.
I think we saw the damage done by Danzo's short reign as interim hokage. He managed to lose the trust of the the other great shinobi nations and the neutral samurai nation. He is the reason that sasuke attacked the summit. And in the chaos Tobi was able to declare the 4th ninja world war. And honestly what do you think he would've done with Naruto as hokage during Pein's invasion? Would he have let Naruto leave beforehand to train at mount Myoboku?


Her power to protect failed. The village got completely destroyed and most people were killed. She saved a few with her summon but at that point she was about to be killed by assura path if it wasn't for Naruto.

So village destroyed and most people dead is the best she can do it's not good enough to give her credit for that. She's fairly strong but as far as kages go she's probably the weakest.

Who exactly told you most of the people were dead? Yes, Pein brought a lot of people back to life, but Konoha is a major village with many many people. Of course there will be a lot of deaths, but had she not used her summon who would have survived the Shinra Tensei besides her and her anbu guards? Naruto fought a weakened version on Pein. If you recall the Shinra Tensei that he used used a lot of chakra and shortened his life span. He didn't have enough energy at that point to safely use CT.
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In addition restoring the bodies lost back to fighting condition. And the fights he engaged in and let's not forget that Naruto didn't really solo him. Naruto was trying not to use the Kyuubi but with his own prowess in battle (with prep time) he was beat, at which point the kyuubi saved his arse. Naruto did well in his fight but without the Kyuubi's help he would have died. Beyond that Tsunade did her duty as hokage. Rushing out to battle isn't necessarily the duty of a leader. We certainly don't see Presidents of the front line. Rather she used her power to protect the people of Konoha. When she thought everyone was safe she was going to charge into battle only to find that she needed to expend more chakra to protect the village. Even with no energy left she still went out to battle in a desperate attempt to save the village but after having done everything else in her power before attempting suicide in the name of Konoha.
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HELL NO:whoa:

 
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It simply comes down to her known feats being that of healing and poison counters, and a lack of scenes expressing her combat capabilities, as well as a lack of 1v1 fights.

It's just like playing a healer in an MMO no one wants to do it, it's not as exciting as DPS, and no one gives recognition to the healer for keeping the party up.....they only notice when people aren't being healed not when they're being healed exceptionally.

Healers in the Narutoverse are just as healers in video games and combat medics, the unsung hero.
 

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This is why Tsunade shouldn't be underrated.


Who exactly told you most of the people were dead? Yes, Pein brought a lot of people back to life, but Konoha is a major village with many many people. Of course there will be a lot of deaths, but had she not used her summon who would have survived the Shinra Tensei besides her and her anbu guards? Naruto fought a weakened version on Pein. If you recall the Shinra Tensei that he used used a lot of chakra and shortened his life span. He didn't have enough energy at that point to safely use CT.
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In addition restoring the bodies lost back to fighting condition. And the fights he engaged in and let's not forget that Naruto didn't really solo him. Naruto was trying not to use the Kyuubi but with his own prowess in battle (with prep time) he was beat, at which point the kyuubi saved his arse. Naruto did well in his fight but without the Kyuubi's help he would have died. Beyond that Tsunade did her duty as hokage. Rushing out to battle isn't necessarily the duty of a leader. We certainly don't see Presidents of the front line. Rather she used her power to protect the people of Konoha. When she thought everyone was safe she was going to charge into battle only to find that she needed to expend more chakra to protect the village. Even with no energy left she still went out to battle in a desperate attempt to save the village but after having done everything else in her power before attempting suicide in the name of Konoha.
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Everything about the Naruto fight I agree with. As for most dead that was just my interpretation as there were barely any people left after that and the general public were evacuated before that.

But I don't think Tsunade is underrated, she isn't gabarage but she isn't that great. Her strength feats are impressive but strength alone wont be enough to take out many of the top teir fighters. Just comparing her to the other kages Raikage could handle her due to a speed advantage, Oonoki with dust release, Gaara's got a range advantage and Mei is probably the most likely to lose to Tsunade. I think she's rated fine around the elite jounins like Dauri and Kakashi.
 

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Nice.

Also she's underrated for many reasons, ranging from simple dislike of her character, to disbelief she is worthy of hokage etc

I personally love Tsunade, except she let Jman die, that bitch

She didn't let him die. She had a village to watch over. Even Jiraiya made it a point that she stay, after she volunteered to go along with him.
 

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I don't think she is underrated. It's only that from what we're seeing she is not that strong for a kage. So we're disappointed. :shrug:
 

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Cuz her tits are aging. :|
 

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You know I don't think being the best at what you do (Being the world's greatest medical nin), having the highest level of physical strength in the manga, having the most useful and versatile summon of the Sannin and having a ninjutsu that makes you near invincible for a while makes you weak but I guess that is just my opinion.

Its clear that she is not liked by many people so it is only fair to expect her powers to be underestimated. This thread has failed seeing as I haven't really changed anyone's mind so I probably won't do this thread thing or make posts for a while because I've got A levels in a few weeks. This encapsulates how I feel about NB right now

:D

Thanks to everyone who posted, I'll rep everyone back asap.
 
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Honestly, before you make bold statements like that, I challenge anyone on this thread to tell who could tank a direct punch from Tsunade bar the Third Raikage and maybe Hashi. If you can do that then I will +rep you

Orochimaru - about that rep...
 

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Tsunade is defiantly top 25 , she has huge amounts of chakra ( senju + uzumaki clans ) , she has excellent chakra control , she has monstrous physical strength , near invincible in battle and she also has the body pathway derangement along with katsyu .
Plus i think she still has more tricks up her sleeve that she yet has to show .
I mean come on , her grandfather was hashirama she has to have some hidden powerful ninjutsu.
 

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I'm not going to get into the debate about how strong she is and all that jazz.

But i will say Tsunade is the best Kage out of all the Hokages and read on before you flame. By no means do i mean the strongest, honestly i think she is the weakest when you compare her Jutsu variety to the others. But she is best suited for the position of Hokage than all the others because all the others have only shown their ability to fight. Tsunade has shown many things. She is undeniably the best healer in the Narutoverse that we know of, living or dead, she has been shown to react quickly and organize Konohagakure Shinobi in good effect and most importantly she makes use of all the assets of Konoha. She uses her Shinobi to maximize their abilities.

She is better than the third Hokage? She is better than the fourth Hokage? She is better than the first Hokage? We don't know much about the second Hokage but GTFOH. First Hokage helped form the Konohagakure w/ Madara and then subsequently defeated him. Third Hokage saved the whole village and gave his life doing so while destroying Oro because if you can't make hand signs then you're useless. The fourth hokage also saved the village as well as sealed the kyuubi. She is a horrible kate when compared to other kages.
 
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Shrugs, I agree Tsunade is to be taken seriously. She is crazy powerful, I bet she scares Jiraiya sometimes. It is just because sexists can't accept powerful women. I've seen Konan & Mei Terumi being seriously underrated too. Sexists arent worth trying to convince. :)
 

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Considering Jiraiya is thought so highly of around here, and how he grew up during a ninja war, it says a lot about Tsunade that besides Naruto tail-raging, Tsunade was the only one who came close to killing Jiraiya. Until Pain of course. I'd have posted link, but post count is too low. Right around when Yamato came into the picture tho
 

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She is better than the third Hokage? She is better than the fourth Hokage? She is better than the first Hokage? We don't know much about the second Hokage but GTFOH. First Hokage helped form the Konohagakure w/ Madara and then subsequently defeated him. Third Hokage saved the whole village and gave his life doing so while destroying Oro because if you can't make hand signs then you're useless. The fourth hokage also saved the village as well as sealed the kyuubi. She is a horrible kate when compared to other kages.

First Hokage built Konoha but under Tsunade's leadership Konoha was rebuilt and the citizens of Konoha safeguarded
The third hokage died a pointless death. He sealed Orochimaru's arms, which Orochimaru just decided to get back anyway. Tsunade kept Orochimaru away from the Hidden Leaf. She was stabbed thrice by Orochimaru protecting Naruto and the Village. She was stabbed by the Susanoo sword protecting the entire shinobi world. She tanked Yasaka Magatama protecting the shinobi world. Her power allowed many of Konoha's citizens to tank Shinra Tensei FP. After using all her chakra she put her life on the line in a desperate attempt to save the village. She's put her life on the line for the village several times.
 

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She is underrated because she deals differently with situations than other kages because she is a medical ninja. She is not as aggressive because of this different background & mindset & readers don't have a grasp of her actions because most of them are coming from a soldier mentality. She also hasn't demonstrated as many jutsu as other kage, making people believe she is weak. On the contrary, she has shown the heart & strength of the other hokages through her selflessness & willingness to sacrifice her life for the safety & wellbeing of the village.
 

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But those Hokage were exceptional, it would be a hard act to follow for anyone. That doesn't make her useless or weak like some people say

Yeah but it makes her seem useless and weak in comparison with them. They set the bar really high.
 

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It's just a lame bandwagon that's been blown out of proportion. People are still complaining about her failure to perform during the Destruction of Konoha. You have to look at it this way, she was the top medical ninja there, so she had to focus on controlling the amount of casualties as best as she could, while leaving the rest up to the other ninja. Besides she's already redeemed herself with her recent actions against Madara in the war(although she really didn't so shit to him).
 
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because compering to the previous hokages he is nothing, so people does not like that
 

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Tsunade is fit to be hokage and she does well but she left jiraya that's what i didn't like.
otherwise she is ok.
 
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