Why is tobi not obito..

[iknowwhotobiis]

Foolish mortals... if one can control space and TIME, would the difference in age still be an issue?

That is an assumption. there is no evidence or hint in the manga about dat.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

When did kurama meet the 4th student?! And you still didnt explain how tobi is better at space/ninjutsu than tobirama and the 4th

Hahaha at a picnic with Kushina minato and the crew _O- hahah now Im jokin, but seriously now that's just something we don't know that we will find out later even if its not obito, whoever he is saying "you" to we don't know how he knows them we will have to wait and see

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

That is an assumption. there is no evidence or hint in the manga about dat.

Erm do we know who tobi is :sy: so who every you say he is is an assumption, I like you your really trying to disprove my theory keep going

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Are you agreeing or dissagreeing? Not trying to be a smartellic--just curious

agreeing, im saying yh your right tobi fooled me to

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

Hahaha at a picnic with Kushina minato and the crew _O- hahah now Im jokin, but seriously now that's just something we don't know that we will find out later even if its not obito, whoever he is saying "you" to we don't know how he knows them we will have to wait and see

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the 8 tails + bee knows who tobi is as well

i am not assuming anything because I did not claim to know tobi identity. Your theory has no support from the manga whatsoever. However, everything I am saying is a fact from the manga like Kurama knowing who Tobi is and Tobi having better knowledge of space time ninjutsu than tobirama and 4th. These are not assumptions but facts. You are stating that people who can use time space ninjusu can control their age that is not based on the manga- you pulled that shit out of ur ass.

 

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the 8 tails + bee knows who tobi is as well

I think they been 9 tails because this is how it goes,
bee: you can't use the 9 tails chakra anymore you will die
8 tails: Haven't you noticed it bee, he can, the 9 tails isn't absorbing his chakra anymore. You should no this you have fought him before.
8 tails: hey nine tails you stopped absorbing naruto's chakra haven't you..

That is what they meant re read and think about it

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

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i am not assuming anything because I did not claim to know tobi identity. Your theory has no support from the manga whatsoever. However, everything I am saying is a fact from the manga like Kurama knowing who Tobi is and Tobi having better knowledge of space time ninjutsu than tobirama and 4th. These are not assumptions but facts. You are stating that people who can use time space ninjusu can control their age that is not based on the manga- you pulled that shit out of ur ass.

Hahaha I never said anything about controlling age, was that me or someone else get your facts right, also every picture I got in my thread was from the manga and anime and the anime one's where in the manga I just couldn't be bothered to look for them

I make assumptions based on facts from the manga and those facts are correct

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

I think they been 9 tails because this is how it goes,
bee: you can't use the 9 tails chakra anymore you will die
8 tails: Haven't you noticed it bee, he can, the 9 tails isn't absorbing his chakra anymore. You should no this you have fought him before.
8 tails: hey nine tails you stopped absorbing naruto's chakra haven't you..

That is what they meant re read and think about it

fair enough however you still have not explained the other holes in ur theory

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

fair enough however you still have not explained the other holes in ur theory

Yh well that's why its a theory an idea I came up with based on facts I think every theory has holes It has to because It's not true yet even if tobi was obito what I said for reason why he was could be wrong. So yes there will be holes

 

[deyoers]

LOL no it doesnt we dont even know if tobi is an uchiha to start with. And the thing about infusing obito with madara dna is just an assumption that can be said to any toon. SOOO tobi can be tsunade bro by your logic. Oro faked his death (he was his teacher) injected him with madara and hashi cells. This makes more sense because ORO was actually a scientist who had access to both and vast knowledge.

hes an uchiha. whenever he appears in the manga hes always showing hes sharingan. if hes not uchiha then it will greatly absorb hes chakra as in the case of kakashi. even danzo was always covering his sharingans. he knew he could only expose them during fights, but in the case of tobi, even when having just conversations with anyone, even with zetsu whom he really trusts, his eyes were always activated. unless he treats everyone as a threat.

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

tell me why tobi was hiding his left eye and he never disactivates his sharingan. Also tobi time/space ninjutsu has not be proven to be a sharingan technique at all.

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

hes an uchiha. whenever he appears in the manga hes always showing hes sharingan. if hes not uchiha then it will greatly absorb hes chakra as in the case of kakashi. even danzo was always covering his sharingans. he knew he could only expose them during fights, but in the case of tobi, even when having just conversations with anyone, even with zetsu whom he really trusts, his eyes were always activated. unless he treats everyone as a threat.

It is always activated because he is not an uchiha. That is the reason why he was hiding his second sharinhan to conserve his chakra. That is also the reason his rinnengan is always activates because it is not his.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

It is always activated because he is not an uchiha. That is the reason why he was hiding his second sharinhan to conserve his chakra. That is also the reason his rinnengan is always activates because it is not his.

I think he would have to be an uchiha to use the sharingan that well, controlling the kyuubi, his space-time techniques

 

[deyoers]

i see. so thats why kakashi and danzo were always covering their sharingans coz they couldnt deactivate them unlike sasuke and the others who can activate and deactivate their sharingans at will. so it's most likely, tobi's from the senju clan? you think?

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

Two things @ deyoers I have no idea who tobi is because kishi created the character in a way that he can really be anyone has seen in this thread.

@ the hidden shinobi : his time/space ninjutsu has not been proved to be a sharingan technique. Tobi doesnt even use mongekyo to use it. Secondly, the point about controlling the fox is good but I still dont think it is enough to make him an uchiha.

 

[deyoers]

I think he would have to be an uchiha to use the sharingan that well, controlling the kyuubi, his space-time techniques

tobi and kakashi have the same tech with their sharingans. they could have been from the same source. but the extent and potent is far even greater in tobi's. but what's more mind boggling to me is that he kept his right eye. he had been transplanting sharingans and rinegan to his left. during the fight with conan, he sacrificed his left. then he tranplanted rinnegan to it. couldnt it be that he is keeping his right sharingan coz that is really his and he knows the full potential of it. he would have replaced it with a stronger eye (rinegan>ms) he really wanted to be stronger. heck, even sasuke replaced both of his eyes with itachi's coz he knew it would make him more powerful than he could ever be.

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

tobi and kakashi have the same tech with their sharingans. they could have been from the same source. but the extent and potent is far even greater in tobi's. but what's more mind boggling to me is that he kept his right eye. he had been transplanting sharingans and rinegan to his left. during the fight with conan, he sacrificed his left. then he tranplanted rinnegan to it. couldnt it be that he is keeping his right sharingan coz that is really his and he knows the full potential of it. he would have replaced it with a stronger eye (rinegan>ms) he really wanted to be stronger. heck, even sasuke replaced both of his eyes with itachi's coz he knew it would make him more powerful than he could ever be.

Now step back and analyze from a different point of view. Kakashi technique and tobi are somewhat similar. However, he has not activated mongekyo to use the technique which makes me think that tobi is NOT using an uchiha technique. Your point about him keeping the left eye is good. However, there is still the possibility that he did not replace his left eye because he is not an uchiha. So if he is not an uchiha he needs to have both the rinnengan and sharingan because he can not downgrade his rinnengan to sharingan or vice versa.

 

[deyoers]

Now step back and analyze from a different point of view. Kakashi technique and tobi are somewhat similar. However, he has not activated mongekyo to use the technique which makes me think that tobi is NOT using an uchiha technique. Your point about him keeping the left eye is good. However, there is still the possibility that he did not replace his left eye because he is not an uchiha. So if he is not an uchiha he needs to have both the rinnengan and sharingan because he can not downgrade his rinnengan to sharingan or vice versa.

good point. i see where you're going with this since rinegan and sharingan have different use unlike if hes an uchiha he can just interchange rine and shari back and forth. but if hes not uchiha then he would need a chunk of hashi's dna infused to him.

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

good point. i see where you're going with this since rinegan and sharingan have different use unlike if hes an uchiha he can just interchange rine and shari back and forth. but if hes not uchiha then he would need a chunk of hashi's dna infused to him.

he has shown to have hashi DNA when he was replacing his arm after fighting with danzo underlings. He used the flower where the first cells are kept

 

[deyoers]

but could it be that the reason why tobi doesnt need to activate mengekyo to do spacetime jutsu is because thats his sharingans basic technique? unlike kakashi, he still needs to upgrade it to MS to even perform kamui?