Why is tobi not obito..

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Sorry but yes obito was born that time, you have to think how old kisame was at the time the 4th mizukage was being controlled itachi and kisame are around the same age and obito is the same age as kakashi who is older then both itachi and kisame
No Actually Your Wrong Kisame Is Older Than Kakashi By About a Year So That Can't Be True IF You Don't Believe Me You can even Go check and he is like 11 years older than itachi bro so what you on about
 

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becuz obito is dead.
when tobi attacked minato kakashi was very young so if obito was alive he would be the same age as kakashi, and tobi at that time was old.
logic! :scorps:
 

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i just cant swallow all this created clones and ifs and buts i like this theory but i just dont see it happening i honestly believe if its anyone we have seen then it would be Kagami Uchia his age would fit with the timeline he was a part of Tobirama senju's squad he would know the history of the uchia clan he would of known madara uchia on some level.
He knew danzo as he was a part of his squad. its not such a far stretch if the imagination that kagami uchia believed in madara uchia's ideals and philosophy's , he along with a few other key characters are missing when the 9 tails attacked the hidden leaf .

If tobi is a character we have seen then it would be Kagami uchia !!.
 

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This is BS... So,
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i'll say it again people... Tobi is..........



FUGAKU
 

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you copied and pasted this entired thread from another post from about a month ago. word for word. ****.
 

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Tobi is not Obito, for so many reasons that it would put this thread to shame..

so i wont even bother making a list
 

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i'll say it again people... Tobi is..........



FUGAKU

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fugaku uchia

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tobi
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tobi when he meet with itachi

completely different hair styles and color

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tobi's partial face seen

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fugaku uchia sharingan

there not the same person itachi is smart he would know if his father was tobi as would of sasuke

why would Fugaku Uciha, conspire with itachi as "tobi" to kill the entire uchia clan when Fugaku Uciha wanted the uchia clan to overthrow the hidden leaf tobi and Fugaku Uciha are not the same person, Fugaku Uciha is dead end of story .
 

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intresting.i would be intrigued to see it that is possibe,would be a freaky twist
 

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i really liked your theory... made actually sense +rep
 

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look guyz the fact is at the time tobi attacked konoha kakashi was at a matured age i mean we saw him and guy walking in the streets of konoha at the point of the kyuubi's attack and madara didn't remove his mask at the time he was fighting the fourth so we don't know if he was old or not. and like they said at the beginnig of the this thread we can't really say madara's face was old i mean it could be like that due to the accident(that tobi had in the caves) and come he only revealed half of his face which happened to be on the same side that tobi was crushed and also at the time the mizukage was being controlled by tobi kakashi was also at age at that time cause if not how would he have known of the blood mist(that's wen he was confronting zabuza) so tobi or obito to would have been of age. and as for him being that powerful lets not forget that zetsu can transfer chakra(just as he did to sasuke at the five kage summit so there is a possibility of zetsu transferring madara's DNA or chakra to tobi after all zetsu collects bodies(or eats them just like he did to the other akatsuki) and as for tobi being a zetsu, now come on!a non uchia can't control a sharingan that good just like we saw with danzou and even kakashi which only means that tobi is an uchia a.k.a obito
 

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Tobi has two eyes, if you've ever watched the Tobi vs. Konan fight you'll see that he has two eyes, the left actually having Izanagi.
And what people dont seem to have proof of, which is a really big thing, is why would Obito turn evil? Theres no reason for it, therefore it totally cancels out the whole Tobi Obito theory.
Also, Yahiko is older then Obito, and by the time Tobi gave Yahiko the idea to create Akatsuki, Obito would be like 10 years old. And I doubt Obito at 10 years old will give an Idea to an adult about an organization such as Akatsuki.

Tobi had two eyes in the fight with konan.. SO? what is your point danzo had like 10 all having izanagi

And if it was obito how would we know why he was evil when the show hasn't been following him, thats if he did survive.

And did you read my theory about madara creating zetsu and putting his and the 1st dna in and also gave him his newly awakened rinnegan. Zetsu can take the form of people remember that he could of turned into someone yahiko knew and persuaded him we don't know ! which is why I made my theory about it

how would obito be tobi...when tobi fought 4th hokage he was the same height as the 4th...at that time obito was waay shorter than the 4th

How do you know how tall someone can grow in 3-5 years and his mask and hood probz made him look a bit taller and we didn't see them standing next to each other for a height comparison did we maybe the masked man was a bit shorter under all that
 

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he was 26 in part 1, and naruto is 13 years old in part 1. simple math makes him 13.

no its your opinion and a pretty impossible one. kisame identified tobi as identical to the face he was shown many years ago when yagura was being controlled. zabuza lived in this time, and killed his classmates, even attempted a coup de'at. this means the reign of terror lasted nearly zabuza's whole life! and zabuza is nearly the same age as kakashi! so unless obito was born with super genjutsu and constantly vanished from konha to go rule kiri....
and then theres the problem of madara calling it "our plan" and saying "this is something HE would do" referring to tobi starting a world war. how in the world would madara know who obito is? when madara died when nagato was a "brat".

fail on both counts. tobi had no eyes missing. he used his left eye for izanagi vs konan. and his power does not work like kakashis. he has to touch his targets, and can even warp himself and turn intangible. whats more he doesnt have ms. kakashi needs ms to activate kamui.

which is why he controlled kyuubi...

How did you know he was 26 in part one ?

Exactly opinion I made a theory and backed it up with facts to show it isn't impossible. But you made a good point to challenge my theory :D nice but maybe this long haired masked man was madara :shrug: we don't know.
I didn't say he knew who obito was I said zetsu found a defenceless uchiha body with special eyes powers and this was perfect because he couldn't defeat a real uchiha

Tobi has lot's of sharingan from the uchiha massacre:flaw: kakashi isn't a full blood uchiha of course he wouldn't be able to use his eye to what it is truly capable of. Tobi has ms abilities he can control the kyuubi and do space time techniques.

Tobi has great ocular powers not strength durrrr he's body is to f*ck'd up to have strength
 

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well you know how you have kyuubis chakra and kyuubis mind? they were separated when naruto got KCM. i think juubi body and chakra became the moon. his mind eventually escaped from the moon and put himself in a human body.

dude he was crushed by rocks and kakashi agonised over the event for years. "everyone i care about is already dead"

because two peopel consitute an entire clan...

Ahh yes, I see I like that theory.

Yh well if you saw someone about to die and you never see them again of course you will think their dead

I never said that someone else did I wouldn't make that point about uchiha's turning evil, im saying zetsu took over obito's body
 

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I've also noticed those before: Kakashi's MS not working on Tobi... their similar dimension-rifting capabilities... which is why I'm also inclined to think that Tobi is really Obito. Of course, anyone can point out that the problem with that theory is the age or generation gaps between the characters.

BUT, if one has the ability to control space and TIME... would the difference in ages/years still matter? :shrug:

Anyway, when Tobi is finally unmasked... he SHOULD be someone we've already seen before. Introducing a new character at this point would just kill the climax and all the drama.
 
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