Why is tobi not obito..

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then why does tobi not habe the rinnegan? if its a clone..or why did madara not give tobi the rinnegan?? only time will tell people just wait and find out.

No my theory says that zetsu gave the rinnegan to nagato because he was an uzumaki so it would be like sage body and sage eyes and imitation of the so6p and zetsu took over obito's body because he needed the body of an uchiha but couldn't obtain one because he wouldn't be able to defeat one
 

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I've read your thread and can't find your reason as to why Obito would turn evil?
 

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uchihas mostly turn evil sasuke turned evil so did madara so obito could of turned evil as well
 

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I've read your thread and can't find your reason as to why Obito would turn evil?

It is said around the two pictures of sasuke that is my reason for why obito might of become evil which is basically we don't know but read it
 

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Well actually, Nagato wasn't neccessarily evil, he just wanted peace, but he did it in a different way, as said by Naruto. In the manga when he is revived, he is good, and believes in Naruto and that he can restore peace. Sasuke, also not really evil, he just wants revenge on the leaf for what they did with Itachi. (The order to massacre his clan and whatnot). When, if you take a look at Obito and his history, he doesn't really have a reason to do what Tobi is doing now. So, im still not on the side of "Tobi is Obito".
 

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Well actually, Nagato wasn't neccessarily evil, he just wanted peace, but he did it in a different way, as said by Naruto. In the manga when he is revived, he is good, and believes in Naruto and that he can restore peace. Sasuke, also not really evil, he just wants revenge on the leaf for what they did with Itachi. (The order to massacre his clan and whatnot). When, if you take a look at Obito and his history, he doesn't really have a reason to do what Tobi is doing now. So, im still not on the side of "Tobi is Obito".

lol thats bc we know allot about itachi and sasuke and not much about obito duh lol
 

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lol thats bc we know allot about itachi and sasuke and not much about obito duh lol

Maybe because Obito died when those boulders fell on him? Not sure what other kind of history you can put around a person thats dead. I'm saying that he has no reason to be evil, just because two other people are "Evil", which really they arn't, both have decent reasons for what they did or are doing.
 
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Maybe because Obito died when those boulders fell on him? Not sure what other kind of history you can put around a person thats dead. I'm saying that he has no reason to be evil, just because two other people are "Evil", which really they arn't, both have decent reasons for what they did or are doing.

we dont know if obito died the manga never stated that he died but it did stated about the other uchihas that we know did die also udk wut reasons obito had to turned evil bc udk anything about him from wut u already know u cant just assume he died bc of wut u saw of the boulders and stuff
 

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we dont know if obito died the manga never stated that he died but it did stated about the other uchihas that we know did die also udk wut reasons obito had to turned evil bc udk anything about him from wut u already know u cant just assume he died bc of wut u saw of the boulders and stuff

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i think tobi is obito. and i liked your first statement. and i hate when people say hes madara because if he was why would he cut his hair and hide his appearance?? the edo madara seems cocky and out there so why would he hide himself? also
 

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[QUOTE =how do you know he was old he wore a mask duhh and tobi at the start of shippuden talked like a child tobi likes to mislead people. And my theory is that he is infused with madara and the 1st dna from zetsu its explained better in my original post[/QUOTE]

ok tobi is not obito i have my ideas aswell for instance when he faught with danzos body gaurds he chopped off his hand and it was all white just like zetsu and it could be one of the original zetsu infused with madara and the 1st dna so i dont think it is obito because he wasnt that tall when he was crushed and it wasnt long after that, that he faught minato and he had s/t teleportation and there is no way that he could have matserd that and going intageable in that amount of time and plus he was the same age as kakashi and kakashi wasnt that tall at that age.... who cares if he was wearing a mask obito could not be that tall.
tobi when he was fighting minatowas talking in an adults voice and at the start of shippuden he was doing that voice to fool the others to not make people think he was the leader of the akastuki. :scorps:

people these days thinking they know everything :flaw:
 

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Yep this is another Tobi is Obito thread but it may just be the best one you have ever read and might even make you reconsider your previous thoughts..

Here's my theory obito's near death experience enabled him to unlock his abilty to become intangible and pass through solid objects and bearly makes it out alive from the underground cave with the right side of his body half crushed. Right after this he encountered Zetsu who meets this young boy with special eye powers and saves him. I belive Zetsu is some sort of creation by madara “The way i see it is that , when madara was dying he activated the rinnengan, and let zetsu take the rinnengan from him, along with the harashima cells, and also some of madara's own DNA.He then let zetsu implant all of these things into a piece of zetsu body like a big enough chunk to make a body , hence developing a second madara. That had all his memories(or possibly he could of extracted his entire brain?) and shit.

And later infused this body with obito who this zetsu found because he needed the body of an uchiha and this was he’s perfect chance because the uchiha’s were all still alive and he didn’t want to engage into combat.
Now what if zetsu he then implanted the rinnegan he got from madara into an uzumaki child (nagato). In order to study it abilities or re-awaken it.
Now before you question my theory or flame me read the whole thread !!!!!!


First of all let's start with the basics, tobi is is basically obito with a missing O this is probably one of the first links people spotted but is very true. Even if you say tobi backwards out loud it is actually bi to and if you spell tobi together multiple times without spaces you get this tobitobitobitobi small irrelevant but ture links but as I said this is just the basics. Now this same small link was the same with naruto and nagato and look at the big link with them, both uzumaki, Both jiraya's students..
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the list of links goes on

In the naruto series Kishi puts a lot of links between characters, names and much more which are all connected... don't want to go into all the links with names this thread will be to long..

Second link hair well as we all know obito's hair and tobi's current hair are very similar

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but in the past tobi has been seen with longer hair, but obito could of left his hair to grow for whatever reason and then cut it back to how it was originally, tobi is the character who changes his appearance the most in naruto with frequent mask changes

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you saying tobi is not obito because he once had long hair is just like saying the mask man who talked to kisamae is not tobi because he has a different mask

Tobi's sharingan powers is similar to kakashi's it was stated that each sharingan user has unique power, kakashi can warp objects that he focuses his eyes on into different dimensions

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Tobi can warp anything he touches into different dimensions
aswell as himself to different dimensions and other locations.

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Kakashi sharingan is obito's eye and not he’s eye so it’s obvious that he would not be able to use it to its full ability. It is also obvious that obito would have this sort space/time powers if he survived, which tobi clearly does

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People also say well it’s not obito because tobi has 2 sharingah which was revealed with his fight against konan well..

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Tobi has also been shown he has great skill in transplanting eyes as he gave sasuke itachi's eyes and also when he implants the reningan in he’s left eye. So yh that kills that argument doesn't it..

Another argument is tobi is too strong to be obito he couldn't of got that strong in that time space to fight the 4th and so on, well if obito did survive we don't know what happened to him in those 3-5 (not sure) years. Well I look at naruto here

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And now look at him here

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Hope you get my point, look how strong naruto has become in a 3-4 year period, I mean itachi killed his whole clan when he was 13 I think so how can you say tobi is too strong to be obito.
Also what people do not see is that obito is not strong at all I mean all he does is obsorb people and teleport I mean if obito did survive and unlock his powers would he need to improve much on his ninjutsu and taijutsu, I think not ! those powers a fearful enough

Yes he went up against the 4th... And lost !

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Anyone can go up against anyone the battle between the 4th and tobi was mainly a battle of brains not bronze, tobi isn't really that strong it’s just his ocular powers

People say Obito has no reason to be evil look well.. look at sasuke here


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and look at sasuke here

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Obviously we have been following the story of sasuke as well as naruto so we know all the events that have happened in the last 3-4 years but like I said we don't know what happen to obito if he did survive.. good guys can turn bad as seen with many characters.. * cough cough* nagato

Now obito's body was crushed.. Tobi's body is filled with a white substance most likely zetsu,

which makes perfect sense for this to be obito look at tobi here

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he's right side is white,

we know that zetsu and tobi are very close

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Like my theory says he could have confronted obito near his death we don’t know!

Tobi is old we saw his face, yh we've seen the right said of his face never the left, his right side was crushed of course it would look squashed. There has been many times were we have seen tobi’s right side of his face never his left ??


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This one is the real key if kishi is willing to reveal this much of his face he might aswell reveal all of it ? welll if it is obito the the left side should be fine not squashed which is the only reason I can think of for his left face not to be shown


This is a complete random clue I saw from re watching some past naruto ep's (ay I was bored) anyway right before akatsuki was introduced and itachi and kismae were sitting down in a restaurant this was said.............

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Asuma said this to kakashi because he said he is collecting something for an offering or something like that. This was the first time obito was ever mentioned and I assure you this was righttt before itachi, kisame and akatsuki was introduced would be very ironic as tobi claims to be the influence behind akatsuki and obito is mentioned right before akatsuki’s introduction anyway just a clue I found

If you actually read all that wow, I added a lot of pictures in this thread so I could prove everything I said was true. I will probably reply to post on this thread by just copying and pasting because people don’t seem to read the post properly when the answer is right there.

There's no way I can go into why tobi isn't the elder son, izuna uchiha or kami uchiha. Have you seen how long this thread is but I will do brief summaries why I believe they are not tobi.

Sage of six path son:
’’Even the elder son's dad wasnt immortal so why would he? kakuzu said theres no true immortality meaning hidan ages. everything deteriorates. plus tobi posed as madara. why would the mighty son of the sage pose as a kid, who would madara be to him? and why is he madara's bitch, following madara's plan and planning to resurrect madara? why would he become so weak over the years? his fight with his bro couldnt have
done that much.

Quote from this thread

Which I fully agree with

Izuni madara brother:

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He is blind and dead why do you people say this, if he was blind how did he get new eyes?? we saw him in his coffin ?? Even if he "didn't die" he would die from old age what is wrong with you people ?? Yet we didn’t see obito die and you say he is dead ??

Kami uchiha: I wouldn't mind if it was, I actually like the idea and is who I believe tobi is if it is not obito. Kami is around the right age to be tobi and also he just seemed to disappear with no explanation. But if it was him who would it shock, most people probably don't even know him the third is dead, danzo is dead and the second 2nd is dead.. If it was obito that involves the 4th and Kakashi who are connected to almost all the characters in the naruto universe in some way or form.

For those how thought the obito is tobi theory died I'm showing you it’s still alive and kicking !!

Please argue against any of the points I've made or maybe some that I haven't made, this is a discussion and I would like to hear your thoughts

I just don’t like the fact that people are saying “It can’t be Obito !!” when as I have shown in this thread it very well could be. :scorps:

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i think madara and tobi are the same person, and obito is not because he was a ****ing kid when he died and madara has been an old ass dude for a couple centuries now...
 

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uchihas mostly turn evil sasuke turned evil so did madara so obito could of turned evil as well


this is ignorant... i guess the rest of the clan doesnt count then..... 2 ppl ( brothers not to mention) turn evil dont mean the whole clan did..
 
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