[Question] Why is the Navy so incompetent?

[Prog]

If the Navy can so easily send Fujitora after The Strawhat Pirates, why couldn't they send an Admiral and a few Vice Admirals to deal with Doflamingo and his crew from long time?

Is it that the Justice-loving Akainu was afraid to make enemies with Kaido of the Beasts?

Note: I didn't read the beginning of the Dressrosa Arc, so if it was explained, just let me know.

 

[Bimbonium]

You do know DD was a shichibukai right? Meaning he was allowed to do pirate related stuffs in peace and they did not know he was Joker

 

[Skull Knight]

Marines donot interfere with Shichibukai.
They need them incase any Yonko declares war against Marines.
And Doffy was a former Celestial Dragon. He knew lots of secrets regarding celestial dragon treasures ie why Gorosei sent CP0 to protect him.

 

[giostep]

I dont think they knew he was Joker, and on top of that you assume that admirals could stop him. In his defense it took alot of work to take him down, and I doubt any vice admirals could have really done any damage to his high ranking soldiers along with the fact that there was no reason to send a Admiral to Dressrosa before the SH's showed up. I mean before Luffy showed up what was the issue on Dressrosa? Making Smile? Slavery of fairys? 99% of what was bad was going on behind closed doors, and the citizens didn't really think Doffy was bad until the truth came out...while the truth of the situation was bad, Doffy had a really good picture painted to the world.

 

[Prog]

You do know DD was a shichibukai right? Meaning he was allowed to do pirate related stuffs in peace and they did not know he was Joker

Marines donot interfere with Shichibukai.
They need them incase any Yonko declares war against Marines.
And Doffy was a former Celestial Dragon. He knew lots of secrets regarding celestial dragon treasures ie why Gorosei sent CP0 to protect him.

I knew he was a Shichibukai, I just forgot.

Well then, Pirates practically run the OP world.

 

[Skull Knight]

Well then, Pirates practically run the OP world.

In a way,"Yes Pirates run OP world."

 

[Prog]

I dont think they knew he was Joker, and on top of that you assume that admirals could stop him. In his defense it took alot of work to take him down, and I doubt any vice admirals could have really done any damage to his high ranking soldiers along with the fact that there was no reason to send a Admiral to Dressrosa before the SH's showed up. I mean before Luffy showed up what was the issue on Dressrosa? Making Smile? Slavery of fairys? 99% of what was bad was going on behind closed doors, and the citizens didn't really think Doffy was bad until the truth came out...while the truth of the situation was bad, Doffy had a really good picture painted to the world.

If we put his Shichibukaiship aside, what reason other than he is a pirate is needed to go after him? The fact that he was strong and a pirate, means that he could be very dangerous in the future.


Send two Admirals, Garp, and a few VAs then.

 

[Skull Knight]

If we put his Shichibukaiship aside, what reason other than he is a pirate is needed to go after him? The fact that he was strong and a pirate, means that he could be very dangerous in the future.


Send two Admirals, Garp, and a few VAs then.

Other than his shichibukaiship these are the reasons why Marines couldnot go against him:
1)Former Celestial Dragon who knows lots of there secrets.
2)king of Dressrosa
3)Kaido's Servant

 

[Prog]

Other than his shichibukaiship these are the reasons why Marines couldnot go against him:
1)Former Celestial Dragon who knows lots of there secrets. More reason to kill him.
2)king of Dressrosa Irrelevant (unless you can tell me why it isn't). He is a Pirate.
3)Kaido's Servant Ace was Whitebeard's son and they were willing to execute him.

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[Skull Knight]

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If I remember properly Doffy did some kind of deal with Celestial Dragons ie why Gorosei send CP0 to protect him.
Currently I don't think Marines want to start another War with Yonko. And I m sure Kaido's men will be stronger then WB men now.
And Doffy being king of Dressrosa is relevant. He was Hero of Dressrosa who protected them from Evil King Riku. If he was caught by Marines then all the citizens of Dressrosa have revolted against WG.This would become Ugly in future. Dressrosa would become breeding ground of Revolutioneries or Pirates.
About the Ace Execution thing. I think Marines wanted to execute Ace because He was son of Gol D Roger. WB came because he consider him as his son. I don't think Marines wanted a war against WB. They could have executed BB but they choose Ace.

 

[Caliburn]

If the Navy can so easily send Fujitora after The Strawhat Pirates, why couldn't they send an Admiral and a few Vice Admirals to deal with Doflamingo and his crew from long time?

Is it that the Justice-loving Akainu was afraid to make enemies with Kaido of the Beasts?

Note: I didn't read the beginning of the Dressrosa Arc, so if it was explained, just let me know.

DD was a shichibukai, which by default means he's supported by the WG and the marines. They are allowed to do whatever they want and the WG will turn a blind eye to it as long as they don't push it and keep their end of the deal. If they had known all the stuff DD had been doing in secret, they certainly would have done something earlier. That is if the Celestial Dragons would have allowed them as it also remains a fact that DD had influence on the people who control the marines. Also they are really not going to send admirals continuously to deal with individual pirates.

 

[arv993]

If they send anyone against him he can just ally with Kaido, u really think that's smart for the marines, Pirates already have too much power if you give yonko doffy and Vergo etc they would be even better.

 

[giostep]

If we put his Shichibukaiship aside, what reason other than he is a pirate is needed to go after him? The fact that he was strong and a pirate, means that he could be very dangerous in the future.


Send two Admirals, Garp, and a few VAs then.

Just because your a pirate doesn't mean the navy will send a Admiral to come get you. If the SH didnt reveal to the world what was going on in Dressrosa the Navy wouldnt have sent anyone to deal with Doffy. If Doffy wasnt a WL they wouldnt have sent anyone to deal with Doffy. They only sent someone out to get him becuase he gave them a bad rep. If he wasnt affiliated to them the only reason an Admiral would have shown up to Dressrosa is to take out Luffy, Doffy would have been the side mission. This is basically fact considering that Fuji wasnt going to do jack squat about Doffy till near the end of the fight of doffy vs luffy.

Garp wouldnt go to fight doffy, if you notice only time garp is even remotely involved is when it has something to do with Luffy or Ace. Also from a battle perspective I doubt any of the VA's could have seriously done anything. Doffy>All Marines we have seen bar Admirals (Past and Present) and Garp and Possibly CID Kong...

 

[Prog]

Thanks guys, I understand the situation better now.

I have to say, the WG seems a lot more incompetent now than before. If someone as dangerous as Doflamingo can so easily get away with what he was doing, then how much power to protect the world does the WG even have? Opverse citizens are lucky that the Yonkous keep themselves in check. I mean it took the entire WG to dispatch one Yonkou.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Thanks guys, I understand the situation better now.

I have to say, the WG seems a lot more incompetent now than before. If someone as dangerous as Doflamingo can so easily get away with what he was doing, then how much power to protect the world does the WG even have? Opverse citizens are lucky that the Yonkous keep themselves in check. I mean it took the entire WG to dispatch one Yonkou.

Not really none of the cypher pools were there
Vergo wasn't
Garp didn't really participate
Sengoku only really did stuff to bb
Kong wasn't there
The warlords barely didn't do anything mihawk was the only one (fought vista) doffy didn't fight he only clashed with croc and stopped jozu in his tracks and cut off orz junior leg
And kuma fought ivankov but wasn't at full power due to him not being able to think for himself
Boa was fighting against the marines as was jinbe
Moria never healed from the fight with luffy or was stated around that etc...

So they were far from full power

 

[TRE MERCER]

Fujitora wasn't even sent to Dressrosa for Luffy he was already their when they got there.

 

[ssjelf]

Fujitora wasn't even sent to Dressrosa for Luffy he was already their when they got there.

He was sent there to stop luffy and law as smoker knew where they were going he told akainu who sent fujitora.

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[Skull Knight]

Fujitora wasn't even sent to Dressrosa for Luffy he was already their when they got there.

He was sent there to protect Doffy and catch Law and Luffy.
This proves Marines were not even interested in Doffy's crime.

 

[KingHashirama]

Pirates are far from running the new world, even "practically". Issue is Warlords have immunity from the marines , unless they are found breaking the law. Which Law was. Hence why his title was revoked (though no officially revoked, plus I assume fujitora got the permission from the higher ups to do it in order for that to happen. ).

And then you have the fact they didn't know about the smile thing. But once they found out, tannanananana, he was put down and taken like a dog. Though of course it was luffy who had to beat him, since Fujitora couldn't touch him since he was a warlord.

Now if he wasn't a Warlord.. he would have been finished off by Fuji f*cking TORA!!!!!!

 

[Ripple Hole]

Pirates are far from running the new world, even "practically". Issue is Warlords have immunity from the marines , unless they are found breaking the law. Which Law was. Hence why his title was revoked (though no officially revoked, plus I assume fujitora got the permission from the higher ups to do it in order for that to happen. ).

And then you have the fact they didn't know about the smile thing. But once they found out, tannanananana, he was put down and taken like a dog. Though of course it was luffy who had to beat him, since Fujitora couldn't touch him since he was a warlord.

Now if he wasn't a Warlord.. he would have been finished off by Fuji f*cking TORA!!!!!!

Tell that to the Yonko. Those Pirates literally own islands in a way.