because they killed hidan, a maniac and psychopath who would kill any konoha ninja for pleasure
whereas the uchihas were themselves a bunch of power hungry bastards who were willing to sacrifice their own comrade and civilians to get more power over village
But not for Sasuke or Naruto? Kishimoto has restricted them and has stated countless times that revenge will only bring one's own undoing. Sasuke is an outcast and international criminal for wanting his revenge, as well as painted as an absolute lunatic and hypocrite, while Naruto was not permitted to avenge the murders of his master or parents and was painted as too naive and trusting.
But when Shikamaru and Team Asuma wanted to find Hidan and Kakuzu and kill them for taking Asuma out, Kakashi was all about it and was a key factor for them getting revenge. So what is this shit?
Its because anger and hate clouds judgement and leads to further trouble .... And from how Shikamaru acted durring the whole affair he was actually calm and calculating with his mind and judgement intact.
Also do note that Sasuke's revenge against Itachi/Danzo was deemed justified till the can of worms were opened .... But when he expressed he wanted to kill everyone in Leaf then it openly declared to be bad (Even Sasuke knew it, so he lied to Taka that he only wanted to kill the Elders):
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You see revenge can be justified till it is within the bounds of Justice, Common sense and Empathy ..... Sasuke's desire to kill Itachi or Danzo is totally justified, Sasuke has right to them, but when it includes people such as the Ramen guy and his daughter it becomes a madness.
Naruto too was justified in wanting revenge against Nagato/Obito ... It was Justice until and maybe even after they had a change of heart .... But Naruto not acting on his vengeful desires alone (thus actually saving buttload of people), that was admireable or naive as per the ultimate result .
Shikamaru wanted revenge but his actions didnt exceed the meting out the punishment to a sadistic cultist maniac, till then it was Justice and prevention of further murder. But if Shikamaru refrained from killing Hidan and tried to covernt him to worshipping Ramen Guy that would have been admirable, similarly if shikamaru wanted to kill every Jashin Worshipper who may not be as nuts, it would have been unjustified and madness.
Revenge and retaliation are is often the same justice with in the some bounds.
because they killed hidan, a maniac and psychopath who would kill any konoha ninja for pleasure
whereas the uchihas were themselves a bunch of power hungry bastards who were willing to sacrifice their own comrade and civilians to get more power over village
Self righteous. If you can't understand my killing, I'm maniac. If you agree with my killing , its justice. That's just very subjective and lack understanding
Self righteous. If you can't understand my killing, I'm maniac. If you agree with my killing , its justice. That's just very subjective and lack understanding
More like, if you plan on killing a buttload of innocent people for very flimsy reasons, you're a maniac, if you're trying to kill an incredibly dangerous sociopath who also killed your loved ones for shits and giggles, then it's justice.
But not for Sasuke or Naruto? Kishimoto has restricted them and has stated countless times that revenge will only bring one's own undoing. Sasuke is an outcast and international criminal for wanting his revenge, as well as painted as an absolute lunatic and hypocrite, while Naruto was not permitted to avenge the murders of his master or parents and was painted as too naive and trusting.
But when Shikamaru and Team Asuma wanted to find Hidan and Kakuzu and kill them for taking Asuma out, Kakashi was all about it and was a key factor for them getting revenge. So what is this shit?
That's not why, it's literally because it's just not who he is, do you think Sasuke would give a damn? He'd listen, then chidori Nagato right through the heart.
Haha! You kinda have point, however, I don't think it's fair to use Sasuke as a comparison, we all know that he's a psychopath, he's more the exception rather than the rule. Even Danzo saw through this when he said that Sasuke's vendetta was not about Itachi or the Uchiha, but rather that Sasuke will throw his hatred at anything and everyone that he can set his sites on, as proven recently.
That's because Sasuke was being stupid. He wanted to kill Naruto, as a matter of fact, tried to. He wanted to go after Itachi at that point, in which he was weaker than a pebble.
Kakashi should not have acted all high and mighty, he should have bargained with Sasuke, maybe told him to wait a while to exact his revenge, and in exchange for that Kakashi would help him get information on Itachi and be more invlolved with his training, maybe get others to help to. Telling someone that to 'forget' about their sole goal in life? Might as well have said, hey Orochimaru, take this kid, I don't want him anymore. Sasuke knew from that point on that no one in Konoha was going to help him with his goal and went to the only person who could and would, which just so happened to be that evil pedo snake.
More of a saint than that emo kid he likes so much.
Naruto decided against revenge before he talked to Nagato. When he talked to his papa inside the CT. Nagato didnt change his mind, just confirmed what he thought was right. Minato asked him how he could end the cycle. That was before he beat the deva path. He was deciding how to end the cycle of hatred and revenge before talking to Nagato. (Simplified for you)
Youre acting like Naruto went on a quest for vengeance. Nope. He wanted revenge, but he didnt act on it. So how can you bring him up?
You're trolling aren't you? There are flashbacks just before Naruto makes his decision, Naruto reflecting on what happened. And those flashbacks are of Pein preaching to him, he is reflecting on everything that Pein said to him. Saying Nagato's words had nothing to do with his decision is plain ridiculous. And stop lying, Naruto had every intention of killing Pein for revenge, he was on a revenge mission until the part where Pein had him pinned with the rods on the ground, where Pein asked him for an answer and Naruto looked away and said that he didn't have one. I'll admit that Minato played his part too, but Pein definitely played more of a role in that part. He even acknowledges that later on when he thanks Nagato for teaching him about pain.
